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On April 09 2012 12:11 gEzUS wrote:
I honestly like HD, he should stick to color commentary kinda like tasteless. A lot of the things you say he needs to improve on, so does Tasteless. But it doesnt matter cuz he has Artosis giving all the play by play, and strategic stuff.
When on camera i think he needs to stop facing the other caster and look more into the camera.
thats all, great games!
thats saying hes not a good caster in anything, thats everything a caster needs to do and you re saying he has to improve, lol
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i've always thought hd/painuser have tried a little bit too hard to be tastosis-esque, i mean i can't blame them for takine tricks out of the handbag of the best in the world, but they just don't quite grab me like tastosis, i don't feel the energy and it's just not fluid or natural, it feels forced... Honestly, study more tastosis / dApollo / CatsPajamas, or DoA and you'll be okay but as of right now I'd much rather have any other casting duo at IPL 4 casting....
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Please stop saying "make a hold". This seems to have caught on at IPL, but it makes me cringe every time I hear it. "Will he make a hold here?" is the most awkwardly-phrased thing I've ever heard. Is "Will he hold here?" just too easy?
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On April 09 2012 12:25 PrimeTimey wrote:
Tip: Don't talk about Pokemon and random garble when there is downtime.
I doubt that's the issue.
Tastosis, Day9, TB and Apollo all do this on a regular basis. Talking about "nerd" things and person lives.
People love it and eat it up, but hearing it from a person they don't personally like certainly comes off as being obnoxious.
It's good and entertaining if done appropriately, coming from HD for some reason it feels fake and forced.
It is the casters jobs to entertain and be fun, but if it's blatantly artificial, it's not pleasant.
I don't even know if it's genuine or not coming from HD, but it certainly doesn't feel like it and personally also find his casting unpleasant.
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I too feel like HD doesn't follow the pro scene too much anymore. He seems like he doesn't know what to say about the game a lot of the time. I think Painuser should be the play by play guy and have HD do the colour commentary. HD has a great voice for casting and gives a lot of energy but his analysis of what's going on in the game is often times very weak.
I give 7/10 rating for HD + Painuser combo.
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Painuser:
- Please make lots of dialogue with HD instead of making your own monologue.
- Focus on speaking in low points in the game.
- Listen to the very first commentary you do and compare it with your current commentary. You do this whisper-y raspy voice sometimes and that does not trigger my enjoyment like other voices do. Talk like you would to a friend listening intently.
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HD seemed a lot better with Apollo than with Painuser, which is odd from my perspective.
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You guys both did great at IPL. I thought HD's best moments were actually when he casted on his own and with Apollo. Painuser you did well in every combination. Big improvements imo!
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On April 09 2012 12:22 LimeNade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 12:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
These 2 do realize they can hear them while the game is paused right....?!?
shh that would make too much sense HD barely knows whats going on anyways, can't make him think too much :D. Gotta love on Cloud Kingdom, wow he just spent so much money that he won't be able to get a hatchery anytime soon (as the hatchery is going down at his expo aka where the 300 minerals went..... )
this is the HD / painuser "feedback" thread he created for constructive critism on his commentating.
not mindless bashing.
i hope the mods step up and preserve this, so it doesn't turn into an idiotic flaming hate-fest.
HD is just doing his job and a lot of people like him. his game knowledge is a lot better than you probably think, when his mind is a bit clearer (he's probably verrrrry nervous right now with the massive crowd).
he says a lot of silly things (which is what generates the flaming), but everyone makes mistakes and you should use this thread as a place to give positive feedback so he can improve in the future and continue doing great things for the community (as he has for years now. what have you done <generic flaming poster on TL>? absolutely nothing most likely, so please shut up).
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On April 09 2012 12:30 MrCash wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 12:25 PrimeTimey wrote:
Tip: Don't talk about Pokemon and random garble when there is downtime. I doubt that's the issue. Tastosis, Day9, TB and Apollo all do this on a regular basis. Talking about "nerd" things and person lives. People love it and eat it up, but hearing it from a person they don't personally like certainly comes off as being obnoxious. It's good and entertaining if done appropriately, coming from HD for some reason it feels fake and forced. It is the casters jobs to entertain and be fun, but if it's blatantly artificial, it's not pleasant. I don't even know if it's genuine or not coming from HD, but it certainly doesn't feel like it and personally also find his casting unpleasant.
If your audience is nerds and there is downtime nerd topics are always a good choice  And whether we are cool or uncool, fat or skinny or buff, we are all nerds
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If I could recommend one thing for both of you, I would try altering the delivery of your comments somewhat. When PainUser starts analyzing an in-game situation, I feel like he has the tendency to start speaking more quietly with a much higher pitch. HD has the tendency to get a little too excited during casting.
Personally, I really enjoy having a caster explain a (potentially complex) non-battle game situation using a mostly calm and steady voice. I might just be weird in that regard, but I definitely feel like casters, in general, are too excited during a game. Obviously there will be moments where excitement is warranted, and sometimes the smallest details can have a huge impact on a game, but it feels weird when casters sound excited ALL the time.
Oh, and don't always feel like you have to talk really fast.
Just my opinion though. 
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On April 09 2012 12:25 PrimeTimey wrote:
Tip: Don't talk about Pokemon and random garble when there is downtime.
Tastosis do this during games all the time... I'm not saying I like them but why is it a double standard?
Oh and yeah, the whisper voice is kind of werid.
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ROFL.... technically a problem with HD and Painuser telling the player strats with open booths?!?!?....
I give these guys a hard time but I appreciate the the difficulty of what they do.
But come on you are like 5 feet away from them of course they can hear you...
It should just be a standard live tourney etiquette not to talk about the game when the game is paused booths open or not.
I actually really like HD and Painuser when Painuser is nerdchecking HD kinda reminds me of when tasteless picks on artosis..
I always question the actual soundproofedness of the booths but whatev...
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i don't like both casters.. good people but i just don't like their humour
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you guys are really good casters, i don't know where the hate comes from T_T;ROFL.... technically a problem with HD and Painuser telling the player strats with open booths?!?!?....
I give these guys a hard time but I appreciate the the difficulty of what they do.
But come one you are like 5 feet away from them of course they can hear you...
It should just be a standard live tourney etiquette not to talk about the game when the game is paused booths open or not.
I actually really like HD and Painuser when Painuser is nerdchecking HD kinda reminds me of when tasteless picks on artosis..
I always question the actual soundproofedness of the booths but whatev...
except nestea and squirtle don't understand english..
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HD has a problem with inserting sexual innuendos into every cast.
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Is Painuser's voice tired? The whispering is weirding me out.
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On April 09 2012 12:58 ravenKRaz wrote:you guys are really good casters, i don't know where the hate comes from T_T; Show nested quote +ROFL.... technically a problem with HD and Painuser telling the player strats with open booths?!?!?....
I give these guys a hard time but I appreciate the the difficulty of what they do.
But come one you are like 5 feet away from them of course they can hear you...
It should just be a standard live tourney etiquette not to talk about the game when the game is paused booths open or not.
I actually really like HD and Painuser when Painuser is nerdchecking HD kinda reminds me of when tasteless picks on artosis..
I always question the actual soundproofedness of the booths but whatev... except nestea and squirtle don't understand english..
Do you know what they call mutalisk or spire in korean? It's Mootalisk and Spire...
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Painuser is the best caster at IPL. Has everything, energy, good use of vocabulary, and unlike all the other casters (Apollo aside, although hes not regular IPL) actually understands the game.
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hd and painuser are some of my old time favorite players/casters since beta, them and husky are one of the reasons i am so big on the sc2 e-Sports scene and i would be happy to see them at future events :D
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