• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:18
CET 10:18
KST 18:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0254LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Terran AddOns placement Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April The Dave Testa Open #11
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 TvZ is the most complete match up Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh BW General Discussion CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
[LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1629 users

New Zerg Unit in Heart of The Swarm - Page 111

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 109 110 111 112 113 120 Next
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
October 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#2201
On October 18 2011 06:37 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:



HOLY SHI**! There is a Reaver in that video towards the end!!!

lol. nice find :D
TPW Mapmaking Team
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
October 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#2202
On October 18 2011 06:37 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHy2achRoU


HOLY SHI**! There is a Reaver in that video towards the end!!!


Yeah, they reworked alot since then....

Man Blizzard, typical of them. Seems i won't get it until ''Tuesday'' -.-'
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#2203
On October 18 2011 06:34 chuscorral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:30 Brotocol wrote:
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHy2achRoU


The Silver Surfer has no place in StarCraft. I'd hate this unit with a passion, and would probably switch race if this was it. This is hypothetical, because I'm sure they won't add anything like this now.


Why broo?
I never used so don´t know how it works. I played late beta and wasn´t available.

It was scrapped in alpha, never made it to beta.
:)
Thrasymachus725
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada527 Posts
October 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#2204
On October 18 2011 06:15 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:10 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
God people, arbiter would be TERRIBLE in SC2. You think you can just port a unit like that into SC2 and think it will be just as good?
Vikingslol
Mutaliskslol (with no corsair? yep)
EMPlol
Fungallol

All of these make Arb pretty damn worthless in SC2. You want to get rid of the mothership which can be used effectively against all these units if used properly with an arbiter which would just end up being a huge gas sink, and would be used just as rarely because Carriers suck and there are no corsairs.

GOD people, THINK!


How would it be a bad unit, do you realize the main use of Arbiters in BW was for cloak and recall? The only difference in having Arbiter instead of mothership would be the fact that you can make more than one. Right now all those things you mentioned against it cause the same issues for the mothership and any other spell caster.


The mothership has ways of couteracting all those units, and being kept safe.
Motherships cloaking field is longer range than arbiter, allowing it to stay further back than arbiters need to. It also has a significant amount of HP, which makes it EXCELLENT for tanking hits. You WANT Vikings and Mutalisks to waste time attacking the mothership. Arbiters you want to keep safe from any damage at all times, because they are fragile, and your army is significantly weaker by losing them. Mutalisks cannot fly in and pick off a mothership unless you have seriously fucked up... Vikings need to take time and effort to take down a mothership, which keeps them off your other air and colossi.
EMP doesn't affect mothership that seriously, because its strength isn't its spells, it is it's massive health and shields and long range cloak. Arbs with no shields and no energy are fragile and for the most part a liability.
Arbs rely on a good amount of micro and mobility to be effective, making fungal powerful on them. This is not the case with motherships.

You don't want to replace the mothership with the arbiter, trust me. Or just think that cuz you liked it in SC1 it must be awesome in SC2... I mean the carrier is in sc2 and it is just as awesome as it was in BW right!!!!!!!!!!111?
The meaning of life is to fight.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
October 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#2205
I can't believe they were thinking of calling the Carrier a "Tempest"....>.>
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
October 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#2206
On October 18 2011 06:45 Bayyne wrote:
I can't believe they were thinking of calling the Carrier a "Tempest"....>.>


It wasn't the same as a carrier though
P⊧[1]<a>[2]<a>[3]<a>tt | P ≝ 1.a.2.a.3.a.P
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
October 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#2207
On October 18 2011 06:45 Bayyne wrote:
I can't believe they were thinking of calling the Carrier a "Tempest"....>.>


I would love to see that anti ground shield, though.
* Liquid'Hero * Liquid'TLO * oGsMC * oGsFin *
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
October 17 2011 21:50 GMT
#2208
Tempest was a design a little different from the origin carrier...
the fighter drones called here shurrikans did make melee dmg
also the shield was like immortal but only to ground weapons while it was weak and normal to aTa attacks
invisible tetris level master
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
October 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#2209
Not to mention that arbiters main strength was to give protoss options versus late game terran siege lines and abuse their immobility and need for careful positioning. In SC2 terran doesn´t suffer from the same immobility problems.

If the arbiter were to be introduced in SC2, I´d guess its strongest spell would be stasis, if it has enough range, especially with the tighter clumping. Then protoss could stasis->move army in to position-> force field -> let zealots whack away at them.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 17 2011 21:56 GMT
#2210
Seeing how the Terran unit's silhouette was posted at exactly 8 pm, I wouldn't be surprised if the Protoss unit was released at a similar time. I'm pretty much checking TL and FB every few minutes right now to catch a glimpse of it.

Unless Blizzard forgot about it entirely, which would be a shame.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 17 2011 21:58 GMT
#2211
On October 18 2011 06:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Seeing how the Terran unit's silhouette was posted at exactly 8 pm, I wouldn't be surprised if the Protoss unit was released at a similar time. I'm pretty much checking TL and FB every few minutes right now to catch a glimpse of it.

Unless Blizzard forgot about it entirely, which would be a shame.


its just protoss
who gives a crap?
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
bovineblitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
October 17 2011 21:59 GMT
#2212
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?
pycho
Profile Joined January 2011
Paraguay372 Posts
October 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#2213
On October 18 2011 06:59 bovineblitz wrote:
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?


like a vortex THAT SUCKS ENERGY AND EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH?! ye id like that, but where is the silhuhuhuetetete? blizzard doesnt love protoss
Brotocol
Profile Joined September 2011
243 Posts
October 17 2011 22:02 GMT
#2214
On October 18 2011 07:01 pycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:59 bovineblitz wrote:
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?


like a vortex THAT SUCKS ENERGY AND EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH?! ye id like that, but where is the silhuhuhuetetete? blizzard doesnt love protoss


Even the Xel'naga stopped loving Protoss. emozealot.gif ;(
"The Protoss ball of death is already too strong, so Protoss doesn't really need new units in HotS." - David Kim, Blizzcon 2011
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:12:30
October 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#2215
On October 18 2011 06:59 bovineblitz wrote:
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?

How about giving EMP an animation and raising cost a bit so it's not ridiculously easy to use?
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#2216
Wait, there's Toss in SC2? =)
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
October 17 2011 22:05 GMT
#2217
Well I have to go to bed now, and I'm sort of pissed that I didn'T GET TO SEE THE NEW TOSS UNIT TODAY .(
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Brotocol
Profile Joined September 2011
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:12:02
October 17 2011 22:06 GMT
#2218
On October 18 2011 07:05 Leviance wrote:
Well I have to go to bed now, and I'm sort of pissed that I didn'T GET TO SEE THE NEW TOSS UNIT TODAY .(


They already showed it, but it got EMP'd and vaporized.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just a joke. Don't hate.


edit: First concept art!

[image loading]

There it is in the background, on the right!
"The Protoss ball of death is already too strong, so Protoss doesn't really need new units in HotS." - David Kim, Blizzcon 2011
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#2219
Next secret unit for protoss will actually be a patch with more nerfs IMO.
Revolutionist fan
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 17 2011 22:13 GMT
#2220
New theory on the Protoss unit.

Observe that it hasn't been "released" yet. However, perhaps it actually is already released, but we just can't see it on the page. Perhaps it is cloaked, which is the reason why we don't see it on the Facebook page.

Browder said in a recent interview that he wants a new Protoss raider. Cloaking would be a logical ability for a raider, especially considering that a perma-cloaked, high-DPS, low-durability raider would be perfect for Protoss.

Therefore, I think the new unit will be the Dark Templar.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Prev 1 109 110 111 112 113 120 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
PiGFest 7 Playoffs Day 2
Reynor vs Clem
ShowTime vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft813
3DClanTV 52
IndyStarCraft 50
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft813
FoxeR 97
Rex 57
BRAT_OK 54
IndyStarCraft 50
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26885
Rain 1436
GuemChi 1063
BeSt 730
Jaedong 517
Larva 301
Sharp 214
Light 184
Leta 152
Dewaltoss 144
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 129
Terrorterran 14
Dota 2
XaKoH 660
NeuroSwarm118
League of Legends
JimRising 535
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1521
kRYSTAL_11
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor135
Other Games
singsing1248
B2W.Neo359
C9.Mang0338
mouzStarbuck131
Mew2King35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick773
Counter-Strike
PGL396
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 388
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1153
• Stunt887
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
42m
OSC
1h 42m
SC Evo Complete
4h 12m
DaveTesta Events
8h 57m
AI Arena Tournament
10h 42m
Replay Cast
14h 42m
PiG Sty Festival
23h 42m
Maru vs TBD
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-26
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.