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Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
October 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#2201
On October 18 2011 06:37 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:



HOLY SHI**! There is a Reaver in that video towards the end!!!

lol. nice find :D
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
October 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#2202
On October 18 2011 06:37 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHy2achRoU


HOLY SHI**! There is a Reaver in that video towards the end!!!


Yeah, they reworked alot since then....

Man Blizzard, typical of them. Seems i won't get it until ''Tuesday'' -.-'
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#2203
On October 18 2011 06:34 chuscorral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:30 Brotocol wrote:
On October 18 2011 06:29 chuscorral wrote:
Maybe something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhHy2achRoU


The Silver Surfer has no place in StarCraft. I'd hate this unit with a passion, and would probably switch race if this was it. This is hypothetical, because I'm sure they won't add anything like this now.


Why broo?
I never used so don´t know how it works. I played late beta and wasn´t available.

It was scrapped in alpha, never made it to beta.
:)
Thrasymachus725
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada527 Posts
October 17 2011 21:40 GMT
#2204
On October 18 2011 06:15 ckw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:10 Thrasymachus725 wrote:
God people, arbiter would be TERRIBLE in SC2. You think you can just port a unit like that into SC2 and think it will be just as good?
Vikingslol
Mutaliskslol (with no corsair? yep)
EMPlol
Fungallol

All of these make Arb pretty damn worthless in SC2. You want to get rid of the mothership which can be used effectively against all these units if used properly with an arbiter which would just end up being a huge gas sink, and would be used just as rarely because Carriers suck and there are no corsairs.

GOD people, THINK!


How would it be a bad unit, do you realize the main use of Arbiters in BW was for cloak and recall? The only difference in having Arbiter instead of mothership would be the fact that you can make more than one. Right now all those things you mentioned against it cause the same issues for the mothership and any other spell caster.


The mothership has ways of couteracting all those units, and being kept safe.
Motherships cloaking field is longer range than arbiter, allowing it to stay further back than arbiters need to. It also has a significant amount of HP, which makes it EXCELLENT for tanking hits. You WANT Vikings and Mutalisks to waste time attacking the mothership. Arbiters you want to keep safe from any damage at all times, because they are fragile, and your army is significantly weaker by losing them. Mutalisks cannot fly in and pick off a mothership unless you have seriously fucked up... Vikings need to take time and effort to take down a mothership, which keeps them off your other air and colossi.
EMP doesn't affect mothership that seriously, because its strength isn't its spells, it is it's massive health and shields and long range cloak. Arbs with no shields and no energy are fragile and for the most part a liability.
Arbs rely on a good amount of micro and mobility to be effective, making fungal powerful on them. This is not the case with motherships.

You don't want to replace the mothership with the arbiter, trust me. Or just think that cuz you liked it in SC1 it must be awesome in SC2... I mean the carrier is in sc2 and it is just as awesome as it was in BW right!!!!!!!!!!111?
The meaning of life is to fight.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
October 17 2011 21:45 GMT
#2205
I can't believe they were thinking of calling the Carrier a "Tempest"....>.>
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
October 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#2206
On October 18 2011 06:45 Bayyne wrote:
I can't believe they were thinking of calling the Carrier a "Tempest"....>.>


It wasn't the same as a carrier though
P⊧[1]<a>[2]<a>[3]<a>tt | P ≝ 1.a.2.a.3.a.P
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
October 17 2011 21:49 GMT
#2207
On October 18 2011 06:45 Bayyne wrote:
I can't believe they were thinking of calling the Carrier a "Tempest"....>.>


I would love to see that anti ground shield, though.
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Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
October 17 2011 21:50 GMT
#2208
Tempest was a design a little different from the origin carrier...
the fighter drones called here shurrikans did make melee dmg
also the shield was like immortal but only to ground weapons while it was weak and normal to aTa attacks
invisible tetris level master
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
October 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#2209
Not to mention that arbiters main strength was to give protoss options versus late game terran siege lines and abuse their immobility and need for careful positioning. In SC2 terran doesn´t suffer from the same immobility problems.

If the arbiter were to be introduced in SC2, I´d guess its strongest spell would be stasis, if it has enough range, especially with the tighter clumping. Then protoss could stasis->move army in to position-> force field -> let zealots whack away at them.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 17 2011 21:56 GMT
#2210
Seeing how the Terran unit's silhouette was posted at exactly 8 pm, I wouldn't be surprised if the Protoss unit was released at a similar time. I'm pretty much checking TL and FB every few minutes right now to catch a glimpse of it.

Unless Blizzard forgot about it entirely, which would be a shame.
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Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
October 17 2011 21:58 GMT
#2211
On October 18 2011 06:56 eviltomahawk wrote:
Seeing how the Terran unit's silhouette was posted at exactly 8 pm, I wouldn't be surprised if the Protoss unit was released at a similar time. I'm pretty much checking TL and FB every few minutes right now to catch a glimpse of it.

Unless Blizzard forgot about it entirely, which would be a shame.


its just protoss
who gives a crap?
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
bovineblitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
October 17 2011 21:59 GMT
#2212
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?
pycho
Profile Joined January 2011
Paraguay372 Posts
October 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#2213
On October 18 2011 06:59 bovineblitz wrote:
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?


like a vortex THAT SUCKS ENERGY AND EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH?! ye id like that, but where is the silhuhuhuetetete? blizzard doesnt love protoss
Brotocol
Profile Joined September 2011
243 Posts
October 17 2011 22:02 GMT
#2214
On October 18 2011 07:01 pycho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:59 bovineblitz wrote:
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?


like a vortex THAT SUCKS ENERGY AND EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH?! ye id like that, but where is the silhuhuhuetetete? blizzard doesnt love protoss


Even the Xel'naga stopped loving Protoss. emozealot.gif ;(
"The Protoss ball of death is already too strong, so Protoss doesn't really need new units in HotS." - David Kim, Blizzcon 2011
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:12:30
October 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#2215
On October 18 2011 06:59 bovineblitz wrote:
How about something with a PDD that stops EMPs?

How about giving EMP an animation and raising cost a bit so it's not ridiculously easy to use?
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#2216
Wait, there's Toss in SC2? =)
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
October 17 2011 22:05 GMT
#2217
Well I have to go to bed now, and I'm sort of pissed that I didn'T GET TO SEE THE NEW TOSS UNIT TODAY .(
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Brotocol
Profile Joined September 2011
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 22:12:02
October 17 2011 22:06 GMT
#2218
On October 18 2011 07:05 Leviance wrote:
Well I have to go to bed now, and I'm sort of pissed that I didn'T GET TO SEE THE NEW TOSS UNIT TODAY .(


They already showed it, but it got EMP'd and vaporized.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just a joke. Don't hate.


edit: First concept art!

[image loading]

There it is in the background, on the right!
"The Protoss ball of death is already too strong, so Protoss doesn't really need new units in HotS." - David Kim, Blizzcon 2011
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#2219
Next secret unit for protoss will actually be a patch with more nerfs IMO.
Revolutionist fan
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 17 2011 22:13 GMT
#2220
New theory on the Protoss unit.

Observe that it hasn't been "released" yet. However, perhaps it actually is already released, but we just can't see it on the page. Perhaps it is cloaked, which is the reason why we don't see it on the Facebook page.

Browder said in a recent interview that he wants a new Protoss raider. Cloaking would be a logical ability for a raider, especially considering that a perma-cloaked, high-DPS, low-durability raider would be perfect for Protoss.

Therefore, I think the new unit will be the Dark Templar.
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