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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On October 10 2011 08:23 IMSmooth wrote: No, Americans know what it means. We just think doctors are a bunch of thieves :p Sigh.... Someday we will have a good healthcare system. Someday This guy is smart. It's so obvious, should be quite a revelation for the public. | ||
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Archile
United States403 Posts
by the way, does anyone actually use that upgrade? i find that in TvZ i always have enough medivacs and in TvP where i actually need another kind of starport unit OTHER than medivacs, they all just get fedback, so the extra energy hurts more than helps T_T | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
On October 10 2011 06:38 DoubleReed wrote: Yea, regardless of historical mistake, it is nonetheless a recognizable symbol of medicine. Educated people know the difference. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On October 10 2011 14:57 slicknav wrote: That's the point I was making before with "marine", although in a sarcastic sense. "Marine" was originally used to describe oceans/things related to water. Marine's in SC don't have anything to do with ocean...but "marine" IRL is commonly used to describe soldiers. So is "marine" incorrectly used to label a unit in SC 2 and in IRL? Of course it is if you deeply look at it. But it's the common word used which is why it is in the game. The same can be said for Caduceus. The usage of the term "Marine" reflects a more generalised peculiarity of science fiction. For some reason, space is an ocean. That's why vehicles that travel in space are frequently associated with naval vessels, whereas, at least with respect to moving in three dimensions, I'd imagine airplanes would be closer, and a new term entirely would be optimal. That's why they're typically referred to as cruisers or battlecruisers, corvettes, frigates, destroyers, dreadnoughts, carriers, and so forth. I imagine that the way of life on a space vehicle is closer to that of a sea vessel, alone in an empty expanse for vast extents of time, with a very numerous crew, and so forth. That may be the origin. Either way that also extends to connected subjects, for example ranks are generally associated with the Navy, not the Army - Commodores, Captains and Admirals rather than Majors, Colonels and Generals - and thus we get to Marines. Marines are infantry connected to the Navy - deployed from warships for coastal raiding or to secure landings, for example. I'd assume their name derives from marine infantry, thus sea-based infantry. Given the previous association between space and ocean, it makes sense that infantry deployed from a starship would be called a Marine. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
Gasp!  . | ||
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On October 10 2011 15:38 polysciguy wrote: well, if you figure, hermes/mercury was the god of thieves as well as the god of medicine Asclepius, Apollo. Not Hermes, to my knowledge. | ||
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laggikoN
Sweden213 Posts
On October 10 2011 06:48 G_Wen wrote: This is a common mistake, even House doesn't use the right one: ![[image loading]](http://www.seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/House/house-caduceus.jpg) "usually symbolizing gamblers, liars and thieves" You don't think this is a clever play on words but with symbols? (so a play on symbols then...) | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On October 10 2011 06:26 PopcornColonel wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the Caduceus reactor (medivac energy upgrade) has a funny name? The Caduceus is the staff surrounded by twin snakes, usually symbolizing gamblers, liars and thieves (it was held by mercury). It is often mistaken for the rod of Asclepius, which is a symbol for healing/medicine (a staff surrounded by 1 snake). + Show Spoiler [Caduceus] + ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Caduceus.svg) Staff of thievery + Show Spoiler [Rod of Asclepius] + ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Rod_of_asclepius.png) Rod of healing So did Blizzard purposefully mix up the names, or did they make a mistake? EDIT: I didn't play Brood War, but as someone pointed out in the thread (thanks, carbonaceous) the Medic Energy Upgrade was also called Caduceus Reactor. Could Blizzard have been in error without noticing for 12 years? No, they didn't mix it up, the rest of the world did. The Caduceus is often mistaken for the Rod of Asclepius. Also, the Caduceus symbolizes gamblers, liars, and thieves in Roman iconography, but in Greek Mythology it symbolizes commerce and peace. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
i am not surprised at all that such a big mistake happened in the US lol On October 10 2011 15:38 polysciguy wrote: well, if you figure, hermes/mercury was the god of thieves as well as the god of medicine lol. wrong | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
Sorry... but LOL! This is the rod of Asclepius with a V on it | ||
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perestain
Germany308 Posts
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TORTOISE
United States515 Posts
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
On October 10 2011 18:59 sunman1g wrote: yes, blizzard is wrong exactly like 90% of US companies who use it in the wrong way. i am not surprised at all that such a big mistake happened in the US lol lol. wrong Well thats what i get for not looking it up and going off memory.though in my defense,1 the percy jackson series which i recentky read.threw me off and 2going ascwhatsis is a minor diety,not a major one like hermes | ||
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Kroml
Turkey308 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On October 10 2011 13:05 Armada Vega wrote: In BW lots of energy upgrades only increased the total max of energy you could gain (example: ghosts total 200 energy could be increased to 250). But no units in BW came out of production with more energy immediately. (exp: Ghosts couldn't come out with 50 energy right away if you got the energy upgrade). Where as in SC2, energy upgrades give you a boost for when the unit comes out of production, but doesn't increase the total energy you can gain over time. In this situation, the Caduceus reactor seems to be less helpful than it was in BW, since there isn't always a time when you can immediately use medivacs when they come out of production to heal or stim right away, except in early timing drops against zerg. Minerals and gas could be better spent so early on. I feel as a long term upgrade BW style Caduceus reactor would be better. You are wrong. Their starting energy was based of a % of their maximum energy in BW. If you researched the energy upgrade they'd start off with both more base energy and more maximum energy. a HT with the energy upgrade would start off with like 62(?) energy instead of 50, and 250 maximum instead of 200. | ||
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Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
Successful troll? I would love to hear stories like these in actuality where some people just decide to change something small and it sticks more a loooong time. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
Doesn't seem like the medical community is wrong in using it. | ||
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