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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
October 05 2011 17:59 GMT
#1481
The unit is an Armored medic. The two shields is to protect herself while the laser (at the top with the red dot) is to heal infantry. An alternative to the Medivac since they can be sniped by air units. It will be much harder to snipe this unit because it will be in the mix.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 05 2011 18:00 GMT
#1482
Viking land form change?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
October 05 2011 18:00 GMT
#1483
Why the hell would you want to make the Hellion into a walker? Wtf?
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 05 2011 18:01 GMT
#1484
It's the Waterbat.

Seem pretty obvious to me.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:04:06
October 05 2011 18:02 GMT
#1485
On October 06 2011 02:51 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 02:46 PlaGuE_R wrote:
My wish list as a protoss and terran player

Marauder removed
Colossus removed
Thor removed
Roach removed
Baneling removed

is that odd?

I agree with some of that, assuming new units replaced them, however...
wtf? Banelings? They are like the coolest unit ever.



I'm pretty sad as I realized that Blizzard essentially batted below 50% on the new units they introduced. The hellion (firebat), baneling (nothing, really), phoenix (corsair) and queen (queen) are about the only units that are better or equal than the units they replaced. The infestor is a pretty good unit and hopefully, the zerg gets the defiler back as a second spellcaster.

I'd rather see another wheeled/tracked mech unit rather than a walker, though. I'm not sure what Blizzard's current obsession with walkers is. The wheel is a proven technology!
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
October 05 2011 18:03 GMT
#1486
http://i.imgur.com/5n43D.png
I'd say it's a mix of the firebat and the helion. built at the barracks with techlab it will be a very tanky unit, that benefits from combat shield as well, but fire the helion attack or something similar. Making it a firebat style unit, but with more range. Then once you get a factory techlab you can research it to be able to transform into vehicle mode, which turns it into a rough approximation of the helion we know now, a lot faster but a lot more fragile.

The purpose behind this is that it has it's 2 forms with very different roles, one being a mainstay army backbone unit to counter light units, and the other as a fast harass unit. This will make countering ling/zealot heavy armies much easier.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
October 05 2011 18:03 GMT
#1487
On October 06 2011 02:21 Brainling wrote:

How is it any more boring or no skill than a Marine, or a Stalker, or an Immortal, or a Hydralisk, or a Roach? They are all point and shoot units that only require micro at the highest levels.


Marine splitting/stutter step.
Stalker Blink micro/kiting vs Marines/slow lings/slow Roaches
Immortals - point taken, but that's like expecting people to micro a Battlecruiser on land.
Hydras are only used in drops nowadays, so that's where the micro comes in. Apart from that, it's pretty widely agreed they are a fail unit transfer from BW.
Roach - Burrow... pretty much it.

Also, for the record the Immortal/Roach/Marauder are all similar add-ons from BW which are tanky units which require little micro and are widely regarded as fail unit designs (even Blizzard doesn't like the Immortal at the moment)
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
October 05 2011 18:04 GMT
#1488
On October 06 2011 02:51 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 02:44 Maculo wrote:
On October 06 2011 02:41 wei2coolman wrote:

Then how does this add to the terran forces? It doesn't. It probably won't be a hellion transformer thing, everyone keeps saying it is. And if it is, it better have some sick ass abilities, otherwise I'm gunna forever hate blizzard.

Perhaps a unit that can guard tank lines against lings/zealots, but also has the capacity to be mobile enough to be easily rearranged across the map in order to shift the tank line forward or to block a potential whole in the tank line.


I want this.


Are you kidding?? That would utterly break the game and make tank pushes go from hard to stop to impossible to stop.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 05 2011 18:05 GMT
#1489
Obviously this is the new firebat model.
It's basicly a footman + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

equipped with 2 shields drenched in gasoline and lit on fire. He used his powerfulll bash attack to smash and incinerate his opponants.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that thing on his back is a firehose. I have spoken.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 05 2011 18:07 GMT
#1490
On October 06 2011 03:04 TheDraken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 02:51 Bleak wrote:
On October 06 2011 02:44 Maculo wrote:
On October 06 2011 02:41 wei2coolman wrote:

Then how does this add to the terran forces? It doesn't. It probably won't be a hellion transformer thing, everyone keeps saying it is. And if it is, it better have some sick ass abilities, otherwise I'm gunna forever hate blizzard.

Perhaps a unit that can guard tank lines against lings/zealots, but also has the capacity to be mobile enough to be easily rearranged across the map in order to shift the tank line forward or to block a potential whole in the tank line.


I want this.


Are you kidding?? That would utterly break the game and make tank pushes go from hard to stop to impossible to stop.


Because you already know that the other new units wont help against this? Oh, you are just biased, nevermind.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:08:30
October 05 2011 18:07 GMT
#1491
On October 06 2011 02:46 PlaGuE_R wrote:
My wish list as a protoss and terran player

Marauder removed
Colossus removed
Thor removed
Roach removed
Baneling removed

is that odd?

No, they are good removals to make the game less stale, since the units you list are among the worst spectator and esport-wise. However, Baneling does not really fit on that list, is it not the best designed unit in Star2? I am curious to as why you keep the Corruptor, Stalker and Raven though?
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
October 05 2011 18:08 GMT
#1492
I think it might be the firebat-medic
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
October 05 2011 18:10 GMT
#1493
On October 06 2011 01:44 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 01:40 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On October 06 2011 01:25 decaf wrote:
On October 06 2011 01:23 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I have to admit I have a very soft spot for Sci-fi units with gigantic ass shields lol

I wonder what it will be, I just pray its mech-TvP related T_T

Sure, if they remove the marauder.

I have been praying for that daily since beta.


I understand why every protoss would want this unit removed, but why do you want it removed?

Its not like i'm praying to have the colosus removed (our OP unit)


I'm protoss and i want the colossus removed. It doesn't matter if it's OP right now because if they remove it they'll balance accordingly, they're both badly designed units though.
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 05 2011 18:11 GMT
#1494
On October 06 2011 02:46 PlaGuE_R wrote:
My wish list as a protoss and terran player

Marauder removed
Colossus removed
Thor removed
Roach removed
Baneling removed

is that odd?


I would replace banelings with corruptors. I agree with the rest though.

workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 05 2011 18:13 GMT
#1495
Marauder Hellion with stim
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 05 2011 18:14 GMT
#1496
So this is the end of my hopes that Blizzard will remove the marauder in HoTS... Even worse, they add another beefy(judging by the looks) unit. Hell, it even looks like Marauder with flamethrower...
Drakn
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom50 Posts
October 05 2011 18:14 GMT
#1497
It looks like it could be a reaper/hellion hybrid with a combat shield.
NANANANANANANA
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:18:39
October 05 2011 18:14 GMT
#1498
Around page 33, someone enhanced the image and you can clearly see that there are wheels on its back that have the same tread lines as the back wheels of the hellion. I suspect that the transformed hellions flame thrower will act a lot more like the flame thrower on the single player firebat, making it terrans short range unit. It will likely switch to armored as that would make a unit that would be great for fighting ling/baneling.
I strongly suspect that protoss is going to get a new anti light ground unit that will be the protoss harrass option as well as the way answer mass marine (rest in hell 1 1 1) before we get out collosus/storm. This transform might be a good counter to that new unit, as hellions might be weak against them too.
In the clearing stands a boxer and a figher by his trade
Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
October 05 2011 18:15 GMT
#1499
flying infantry unit? why would it have such a huge backpack/device on it's back?
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:22:31
October 05 2011 18:18 GMT
#1500
This unit has 4 wheels, I bet it's a trasformer type upgrade for the hellion in order to make him a lot more tankish (notice the shields) while having reduced dps and movement speed.
or "You can now combine, the hellion, the tank and the thor in single robotic type unit that'll have the health and dps of all units merged, and the speed of the hellion"
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