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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
October 05 2011 14:26 GMT
#1241
Happy I don't play terran, it looks ugly.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
EternalSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden313 Posts
October 05 2011 14:27 GMT
#1242
Its a ripoff of the Imperial Dreadnought. Just like alot of other things in the starcraft universe are based/copied from 40k.

ITS A DREADNOUGHT, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
SHIT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
October 05 2011 14:29 GMT
#1243
In a month they'll announce a renaming of the Terran race to Terransformers.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 05 2011 14:30 GMT
#1244
TO me it just looks like the campaign medic guy. The researcher whatever his name was. He looked exactly like that!

The siluette is fucking ugly tho, not gonna lie.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
simansh
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
257 Posts
October 05 2011 14:30 GMT
#1245
It looks like a melee unit to me.

Really excited though,
#1 Zenex Line fan!
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 05 2011 14:30 GMT
#1246
On October 05 2011 15:46 vincom2 wrote:
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On October 05 2011 15:33 latan wrote:
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On October 05 2011 15:25 vincom2 wrote:
On October 05 2011 12:10 latan wrote:
lately i've felt it's kinda unfair that terran has no basic melee unit, so i hope this will be one.

Yeah, a terran melee unit with 2.25 base walking speed so it sticks with the MM ball, but can stim and have its speed increased to 3.475 so it can rush forward, tank and deal its kickass DPS as necessary! Not to forget the MM ball dealing its own DPS from behind, and the medivacs overhead healing the melee meatshield! Now everything sounds so much fairer :o

Anyway, this is an SC2 terran unit, so whatever it turns out to be, it's going to be imba



sigh... unfair to the other races.

Oops :o so you hope this will be a marine replacement in T1? I don't like that though... would be way too drastic a change to terran play, and would completely kill their racial identity (as though it wasn't killed enough by the marauder).

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On October 05 2011 12:27 NicolBolas wrote:
My personal fears:

1: A SC2 Goliath. Seriously, if this thing is a Factory unit that's relatively cheap, comes from the Factory, and has ridiculous GtA damage and range, I'm done with SC2. We had to suffer through "all-Mech-all-the-time" in SC1, and I'm tired of it. It's time for something new, and "something new" doesn't mean "the same crap we've been playing for 12 years." I want Terrans to have to build something that doesn't come out of the Goddamned Factory. Getting rid of the Goliath was one of the best moves they made in SC2, and I'd hate to see them declare surrender and just basically turn Terrans into "people who build Factory stuff". Again.

And "people who build barracks stuff" is superior because...?

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On October 05 2011 13:56 Whitewing wrote:
I know! It's a FireBat...Hero. It'll be just like a firebat but way more awesome, and will have awesome ceremonies after it wins a fight.

THIS POST WINS THE THREAD

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On October 05 2011 15:30 BeeNu wrote:
Whatever it is I hope it's a tier1 unit that auto detects, seems pretty unfair Terran has to burn 230 minerals for early detection.

.... not sure if troll or just stupid


*bows*
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 14:38:34
October 05 2011 14:31 GMT
#1247
On October 05 2011 23:11 MIKster wrote:
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On October 05 2011 23:01 Alpha PL wrote:
Hey everyone! My first post here.

| wanted to share my findings about this new unit.

First take a look at this image I made:

[image loading]

This is the original image of the unit after some simple modifications, namely greatly increased brightness and removal of the background. This made some hidden details visible.

First of all it seems that there are indeed wheels attached to the unit, you can clearly see the rubber tire texture on one of them. Also the gun appears to be a flamethrower, consisting of the main upper barrel(s) for spraying the fuel and a smaller one for igniting it. Two large shields are also visible, apparently connected to the unit's 'arms'.

Those observations lead me to believe that the unit is indeed a 'Helion Transformer'. I think that it will be produced in the Barracks in it's walker form and in this mode it will serve as a slow melee range meat-shield unit, acting primarily as a damage tank for the Marines. After building a Factory (maybe requiring a tech lab research) the unit will gain the transformation ability which will transform it into a standard Helion. It is possible that the walker mode will be a replacement for the Marauder in it's damage absorbing role, and there will be a light anti-armor unit added to the Factory.

What do you think?



Nice first post and I kind of like the idea of Terran having a melee tank unit to meet zerglings and zealots on the battlefield. A merge ability just like with two templers seems plausible as well. Let's see if it proves to be right!


After seeing this image I think it's pretty clear it's the next evolution for terran: The super marine.

A regular marine, except with wheels for hellion run speed(x2 when stimmed of course), a hellion flamethrower duct taped to its helmet for melting zerglings / zealots, double fisted combat shields for +20 hp, a improved reaper jetpack allowing the super marine to go into flight mode to avoid banelings just in case they get too close(A separate energy bar called fuel will be given so they can't fly constantly that would be a bit over the top), reaper grenades for armored targets (30+3) and EMP. Oh and Point defense drone why not.

Naturally it would retain stim for increased attack speed / movement.

Now obviously some people might take issue with this new marine but before you start qqing it won't be this strong at the very start of the game. I predict each of these features for the new super marine will be from upgrades. The combat shield upgrade will be able to be researched twice, the infernal preigniter will become helmet infernal preigniter, reaper speed upgrade will become marine jetpack upgrade, a ghost academy will be required for the EMP and a starport for PDD. This way the marine can still cost 50 minerals without being too powerful in the early game.

Now I know what you are thinking "How is terran supposed to afford all the gas for these upgrades?" well from this I think we can glean another change in HOTS: mules will be able to dropped down refinery chimneys to mine gas.

People say terran has a answer for everything because they are the most complete race, but they are missing the point that terran has to make several different units! How can that be considered complete! With this new unit we can just make one unit that has all the answers.

I expect the new unit for zerg to be the "Super infestor" to retain balance in tvz much in the same way, I'll let people speculate on that once the image is released.

Naturally protoss will have to wait for the 2nd expansion for their own super unit.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 05 2011 14:32 GMT
#1248
On October 05 2011 23:29 branflakes14 wrote:
In a month they'll announce a renaming of the Terran race to Terransformers.

yeah. they already have the viking, the helion is on its way to transformation and maybe the Thor follows (to be able to morph into a battlecruiser ^.^).
keep it deep! @zulison
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 05 2011 14:32 GMT
#1249
On October 05 2011 22:57 snowroller1 wrote:
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On October 05 2011 21:40 PassiveAce wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:16 snowroller1 wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:04 Firesilver wrote:
On October 05 2011 20:57 snowroller1 wrote:
On October 05 2011 20:47 Sated wrote:
On October 05 2011 20:16 Qikz wrote:
On October 05 2011 19:50 Sated wrote:
On October 05 2011 19:27 Qikz wrote:
On October 05 2011 19:23 WArped wrote:
Looks like some weird new Thor, maybe a replacement?


Could be a thor style unit like the goliath and the cannon on top is a gattling cannon. Maybe it's down to the fact thors are useless against magic boxed air units and also anything other than mutalisks.

Yeah, it's not like Terran has some sort of stimmable, high DPS anti-air unit - they totally need something to shoot down air units!


Erm, that's the problem. It kind of forces you into making marines rather than going pure factory units...

Oh no! Terrans need to make a unit that comes out of a building other than a Factory, what a massive inconvenience that must be!

Seriously, Terrans don't know how good they have it...


look at graphs from latest patch, protoss has 60% on terran in top level of play, so stop whining please


You mean this one?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268287

Uhh.. you may want to take a look again.. It's not 60%.

Edit: You may have meant this: (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262678)

But that is no where near what you stated either.



http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb?zone=7

mad?

how is that top level of play?
If your going to be antagonizing you should also make sure your right.


probaly becouse only high level players games are in the chart? but stick with your statistics from bronze league they are clearly more accurate?


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http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb?zone=7


This, is a result of 167 games... Not really too precise... The one blizzard published is from hundreds of thousands... And they even included one for Master/GM only... so... yeah...
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 14:32:42
October 05 2011 14:32 GMT
#1250
Actually, I am incling on thinking Its not a flame thrower, but some kind of Ice Caster.
Show nested quote +
>Heart of the Swarm
>Release Terran silhouette first

Why you gotta troll me, Blizz?

We chose the order based on campaign order. Hint. (chill) Hint.

perhaps its slows down enemy unit movement?
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
October 05 2011 14:32 GMT
#1251
What I'm wondering is what exactly does Terran NEED? I mean, Terran already has a tool for every situation and then some.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
October 05 2011 14:33 GMT
#1252
[image loading]

Someone made a pretty cool drawing
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
October 05 2011 14:33 GMT
#1253
Make it happen. You know you want to see it in game.
[image loading]
aka Wardo
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 05 2011 14:35 GMT
#1254
On October 05 2011 23:30 Euronyme wrote:
The siluette is fucking ugly tho, not gonna lie.

QFT. We need less cartooney units in SC2, not more. Bah.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#1255
On October 05 2011 23:32 ZeroCartin wrote:
Actually, I am incling on thinking Its not a flame thrower, but some kind of Ice Caster.
Show nested quote +
>Heart of the Swarm
>Release Terran silhouette first

Why you gotta troll me, Blizz?

We chose the order based on campaign order. Hint. (chill) Hint.

perhaps its slows down enemy unit movement?

It better replace the marauder then.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
October 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#1256
I think it's a Goliath a-like unit that can shoot ground with fire and have some machinegun for air...

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decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
October 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#1257
Instead of removing the 2 dumbest units terran got (thor, marauder) they add another one that looks like a fusion of those 2.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#1258
On October 05 2011 23:32 branflakes14 wrote:
What I'm wondering is what exactly does Terran NEED? I mean, Terran already has a tool for every situation and then some.


Maybe some "easy" detection... I know they've got raven, ghosts and scan... But something observer-ish would be fine for T, I guess
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
October 05 2011 14:39 GMT
#1259
As far as we know it could replace the thor too, no?

Anyway the only real information is that this is officially the beginning of a new intolerable waiting period.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 05 2011 14:39 GMT
#1260
On October 05 2011 23:37 Mentalizor wrote:
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On October 05 2011 23:32 branflakes14 wrote:
What I'm wondering is what exactly does Terran NEED? I mean, Terran already has a tool for every situation and then some.


Maybe some "easy" detection... I know they've got raven, ghosts and scan... But something observer-ish would be fine for T, I guess

yeah lol - terrans is race that needs better detection :D
keep it deep! @zulison
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