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On October 25 2011 05:44 TechSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 04:32 TKHawkins wrote:
I'm really not liking how long the ladder lock is going on for now compared to how long the season is. I'm in gold. I just got matched up against (and rolled by) a Masters player. Either I'm way overdue for another promotion, or this guy really needs a demotion. Either way, the fact that this is happening really delegitamizes the meaning of the leagues. If that's the case, you'll most likely be promoted immediately after the lock is done after your first placement match. Since MMR still moves during the lock, I see no problem with shorter seasons and a 2 week lock to use excess bonus pool.
Oh I know, the same thing happened last season too (I keep getting promoted to plat, take a break from the game, demoted back to gold cause I'm rusty, and then repromoted). The problem is, for about ~25% of the season now (2 weeks out of 2 months), what league you are in is meaningless. I've beaten numerous plats today, played a few masters, but also got matched up against (and lost to) a silver player. Does that mean I'm doing well? Or should that guy who is in silver really be in masters, plat? Or is he a true silver? Am I playing plat players with MMRs that should be demoted back to gold, or "true" plats. With promotions now being locked for so long, there is really no way to tell.
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New season is upon us! Yaaay! not much of a difference though :p (SEA server).
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Who cares how long or how short seasons are. Play, get better MMR, become a better player, season is irrelevant. If you're dedicated and play you'll get better, it wont matter if its season 27 or season 3.
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On October 25 2011 07:48 Exdeelol wrote:
Who cares how long or how short seasons are. Play, get better MMR, become a better player, season is irrelevant. If you're dedicated and play you'll get better, it wont matter if its season 27 or season 3.
True, that is the right attitude to have. And the distinction between leagues under diamond have always been fairly meaningless. Still, with Blizzard limiting stat tracking SO much (I have a sheet of paper next to my computer where I tally mark my win/loss ratio since the game won't display it), it's frustrating when they start limiting your data even more.
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On October 25 2011 07:48 Exdeelol wrote:
Who cares how long or how short seasons are. Play, get better MMR, become a better player, season is irrelevant. If you're dedicated and play you'll get better, it wont matter if its season 27 or season 3.
It's nice to have a quantifier of your skill though. That's the whole point of ranks - to see how you're doing. During lock, it's pretty meaningless. If that's 1/4 of the time you play then it's kind of silly.
And no, ranks are not for matching you against the right players. It's entirely possible to do that without giving anyone a rank and simply keeping the secret MMR we already have.
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On October 25 2011 07:52 TKHawkins wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 07:48 Exdeelol wrote:
Who cares how long or how short seasons are. Play, get better MMR, become a better player, season is irrelevant. If you're dedicated and play you'll get better, it wont matter if its season 27 or season 3. True, that is the right attitude to have. And the distinction between leagues under diamond have always been fairly meaningless. Still, with Blizzard limiting stat tracking SO much (I have a sheet of paper next to my computer where I tally mark my win/loss ratio since the game won't display it), it's frustrating when they start limiting your data even more.
LOOOL dude that's just sad. Your on a computer for Christ's sake. Use your resources at hand so you don't need a piece of paper to keep track of your win/loss stats.
Go download SC2 Gears and set it up so it saves all your 1v1 games.. TADA problem solved. Now you have more stats than you can handle! Enjoy :D
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And I continue on my futile attempt to get the 1000 win kerrigan avatar before HotS comes out and we start working on new portraits.
The problem is I'm also trying to hit masters at the same time, so I don't want to play just retarded games.
Oh well... maybe I'll mass game the few months before hots comes out.
I definitely find the 2 week lock period now taking up such a large portion of the league time odd. I was playing against a few silver league players, had me wondering if my loss streak was really that bad...
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On October 25 2011 07:58 Shiladie wrote:
And I continue on my futile attempt to get the 1000 win kerrigan avatar before HotS comes out and we start working on new portraits.
The problem is I'm also trying to hit masters at the same time, so I don't want to play just retarded games.
Oh well... maybe I'll mass game the few months before hots comes out.
I definitely find the 2 week lock period now taking up such a large portion of the league time odd. I was playing against a few silver league players, had me wondering if my loss streak was really that bad...
Your win count for portraits carries on after the season change so don't worry about that.
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Still nothing. It's past Oct 24 in pretty much every countries now.
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On October 25 2011 07:44 TKHawkins wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 05:44 TechSC wrote:On October 25 2011 04:32 TKHawkins wrote:
I'm really not liking how long the ladder lock is going on for now compared to how long the season is. I'm in gold. I just got matched up against (and rolled by) a Masters player. Either I'm way overdue for another promotion, or this guy really needs a demotion. Either way, the fact that this is happening really delegitamizes the meaning of the leagues. If that's the case, you'll most likely be promoted immediately after the lock is done after your first placement match. Since MMR still moves during the lock, I see no problem with shorter seasons and a 2 week lock to use excess bonus pool. Oh I know, the same thing happened last season too (I keep getting promoted to plat, take a break from the game, demoted back to gold cause I'm rusty, and then repromoted). The problem is, for about ~25% of the season now (2 weeks out of 2 months), what league you are in is meaningless. I've beaten numerous plats today, played a few masters, but also got matched up against (and lost to) a silver player. Does that mean I'm doing well? Or should that guy who is in silver really be in masters, plat? Or is he a true silver? Am I playing plat players with MMRs that should be demoted back to gold, or "true" plats. With promotions now being locked for so long, there is really no way to tell.
I know a few Masters that just tank their MMR really low after the lock to prevent being demoted yet have like a bronze league MMR. Then when the new season starts, they get demoted to bronze but work their way back to Masters so they'll have like a 100-1 win ratio lol.
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I definitely get a little demotivated during ladder lock because I know no matter how well I play, I won't get promoted. The hope of seeing that promotion screen pop up after every game really helps me keep playing game after game.
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On October 25 2011 16:57 K3Nyy wrote:
I know a few Masters that just tank their MMR really low after the lock to prevent being demoted yet have like a bronze league MMR. Then when the new season starts, they get demoted to bronze but work their way back to Masters so they'll have like a 100-1 win ratio lol.
they'll just fail pretty hard. if they start pwning in bronze league they will start playing against diamond/master pretty soon and when they get into master they won't have alot of points. they will lose points after promotion compared to those who have higher mmr and start getting >15 points for a win and losing <10 points for a loss in master league.
so dunno why would anyone do that
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Dont think New Season is coming tuesday. Here in europe we have 11 o clock in the morning and no new season arrived.
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On October 25 2011 17:57 ProxySilmaril wrote:
Dont think New Season is coming tuesday. Here in europe we have 11 o clock in the morning and no new season arrived.
It's been up all day here in SEA.
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On October 25 2011 18:04 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 17:57 ProxySilmaril wrote:
Dont think New Season is coming tuesday. Here in europe we have 11 o clock in the morning and no new season arrived. It's been up all day here in SEA.
Can we get a screencap or Dl of the new 2v2 maps please?
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All the patches and resets took place at Wednesday 3:00 am CET so far, so i think this one will be no different
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Wilko yeah thats for EU but when does it happen on NA?? Any status there?
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SEA like 8 hours ahead of EU, US like 8 hours behind but yet somehow, someway, EU always gets updated last.
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EPT
