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McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
I play on all the lowest settings, and I admittedly don't use a benchmark-setting laptop (Athlon X2 2.1Ghz dual core, Radeon 4250, 4GB DDR RAM), but I've never ever had even small amounts of FPS issues except on monobattle maps when everyone is maxed and running around. Now my computer lags to a point of being unplayable even early game in 1v1 when I've only got a few units on screen at a time. Has anyone else had any similar issues, or is my computer just randomly broken or something? | ||
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Warlock40
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:33 Corrosive wrote: I don't know if this is related but, every time i start a game on ladder the screen is frozen for the first 4-5 seconds. It was never like this before 1.4 i thought i was the only one...im getting lag and overall slowness. | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
this new patch somehow made it even worst | ||
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McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
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Moochlol
United States456 Posts
Utter failure of battle net 2.0 in my opinion. edit; Why do people assume vertical sync has anything to do with poor performance. I mean where does this come from. Never in all my life, playing multiple games across multiple computers has vertical sync ever been the direct cause of performance issues. Besides even some of the best monitors still show screen tearing with vertical sync off, why anyone would want to play without it boggles my mind. | ||
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kituatembo
United States39 Posts
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
I had a pretty good workaround by going x8 through a couple replays after I load SC2 so I can preload the objects. This has served me well up until now. SC2 puts a whole mess of graphic and sound data in large single files... I suspect if this patch rebuilt that file, it may have done so badly. If you know how File Systems work, then you know the absolute worst thing you can do is create a small file, and then increase the size of it... it's why if you ever download anything from a P2P client like Limewire that doesn't create the files at their 'finished' size initially, then your file will be EXTREMELY fragmented and will run like garbage. If the SC2 data files are fragmented, loading data from it will be much slower than normal and create the same 'hiccups' that it would on a bad hard drive. I analyzed my disk after the install and my SC2 files were fragmented. I reccomend defragging your hard drive to resolve the slowness patch 1.4 causes. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:45 Moochlol wrote: Me, my brother and a friend are all experiencing lag. The screen freezes then speeds up. During high user activity this seems to happen from time to time, even before the patch. If i had to guess its because all the noobs are coming out of the woodwork to play the new patch. Utter failure of battle net 2.0 in my opinion. If your screen slows down and then speeds up, that's 100% your PC, it has nothing to do with anything happening over the network. | ||
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blindsniper
United States143 Posts
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devPLEASE
Kenya605 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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Rocco605
United States19 Posts
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Moochlol
United States456 Posts
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
I have played a bunch, 2's, 3's and Sotis, and there has been no new lag with me or my partners - so it is not universal new lag. If it is a problem with bnet or the new patch, good luck to those of you affected. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:09 Moochlol wrote: Hmmm, Let me see core I7, GTX 560, 6 gig ram. Yea I think my computer can handle sc2 on low settings. Also explain to me why when in team games, If someone in the game is laggy as shit, everyone lags and chops all day. And its the exact same lag I described above, the game freezes and speeds back up, Its not the normal lag you would think of where frames are not affected. It has to be the way battle.net deals with lag. I already did explain what is going on with the 'speed up / slow down' lag. Read above. | ||
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Rocco605
United States19 Posts
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
I explain why this works on page 1 | ||
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Moochlol
United States456 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:10 fdsdfg wrote: I already did explain what is going on with the 'speed up / slow down' lag. Read above. Mhmm so your telling me, that the lag I experience ( And anyone who has ever played with a severe lagger) in 4v4 vs ppl on 56k modems, which cause all 3 of my partners to chop and lag is from audio files................lol k. All my example is for. Is to show that latency has a direct affect on the performance of FPS in sc2. This is nothing new. | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
edit: Yup, it worked. Thanks, fdsdfg. edit2: Nevermind, after playing a second, and quite unbearable, game it turns out that nothing has been changed. | ||
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Vague
170 Posts
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fdsdfg
United States1251 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:16 Moochlol wrote: Mhmm so your telling me, that the lag I experience ( And anyone who has ever played with a severe lagger) in 4v4 vs ppl on 56k modems, which cause all 3 of my partners to chop and lag is from audio files................lol k. It's from trying to cache models and textures of 8 different players. It has nothing to do with their connection. If your game lags, your mouse DOESN'T lag, and it doesn't speed up to catch up.. that's network lag, and it is because of them. All my example is for. Is to show that latency has a direct affect on the performance of FPS in sc2. This is nothing new. It does not. | ||
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Moochlol
United States456 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:22 fdsdfg wrote: It's from trying to cache models and textures of 8 different players. It has nothing to do with their connection. If your game lags, your mouse DOESN'T lag, and it doesn't speed up to catch up.. that's network lag, and it is because of them. It does not. If I'm in a team game everything runs smooth if no one is lagging, same in 1v1. My FPS doesn't hit 0 and everything runs good, However when and if someone is severely lagging (Name poping on screen non stop), this happens without fail. So my logic is running into a brick wall with you because, this issue does not exist until someone displays severe lag. Since this is directly correlating (In my experience) to someone lagging, why would caching come into play @ all. Without laggers the problem doesn't arise. With laggers it does. Where does caching fit in there. So if I'm to make sense of this, when someone lags I'm re caching all the textures that already exist? When the lag screen pops up SC2 must re cache all textures? That doesn't make sense. And again I'm just using team games as an example. Let me reiterate, One day I was in a 4v4 and we were playing against 4 People from Brazil. One of them was lagging non stop, and the game was very very choppy. I asked all 3 of my teammates on skype if they were experiencing the same thing as I, and they confirmed, yes they were. The dudes name was poping on screen every 20 seconds or so, and in between that time the game was super choppy FPS wise. Now I have played a fair share of team games in my time, and without these "laggers" this chop does not exist. So how does this relate to 1.4, I'm assuming that the high congruency of players is some how causing battle.net to chop FPS in game. So my point is again that lag somehow can affect your frame rates in sc2. This is illogical yes, but in my experience it happens, unless your calling me a liar and something I experienced is somehow a fallacy then by all means sir I submit. So people defrag your SC2 and come back, do tell, let everyone know if your problem with 1.4 is solved. If so than ty you fsdfjksf or whatever your name is =p | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
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Hybris
United States185 Posts
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Heavenly
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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tsuxiit
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TanKBreaKeR
Turkey17 Posts
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
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SpearWrit
United States300 Posts
• Performance can dip noticeably when using APM responsive peripherals. We have seen several reports regarding performance degradation regarding various APM responsive products in 1.4 and are looking into the matter. Thank you for your patience while we investigate the issue. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2301630502 I.E. Razer Banshee headset, Marauder keyboard, Specter mouse that change lighting when your APM changes. I have a Specter and I have the same problem as you. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
edit: ok after my first game, it seems to be better now. weird o.O | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:30 SpearWrit wrote: Known Issues 1.4.0 • Performance can dip noticeably when using APM responsive peripherals. We have seen several reports regarding performance degradation regarding various APM responsive products in 1.4 and are looking into the matter. Thank you for your patience while we investigate the issue. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2301630502 sigh you saying my banshees are causing my lag?  They're the only headset I have | ||
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SpearWrit
United States300 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:32 MonkSEA wrote: sigh you saying my banshees are causing my lag? They're the only headset I have My Specter is causing mine. I have no other optical mouse. | ||
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PeachTea
United States149 Posts
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PeachTea
United States149 Posts
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong746 Posts
Ugh, both my keyboard/mouse are the Razer SC2 products.. now I'm kind of scared to ladder lol. | ||
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McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
Nice of Blizzard to release a patch that both severely nerfs my favourite unit, AND makes the game unplayable due to lag and stability issues. +1, Blizzard. -_- Hope this gets fixed soon. | ||
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Br3ezy
United States720 Posts
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong746 Posts
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TheUnderking
Canada202 Posts
BTW : I'm not experiencing anything unusual. | ||
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Orchid
United States71 Posts
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FluffyBinLaden
United States527 Posts
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Rocco605
United States19 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10318 Posts
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Unnamed Player
Australia89 Posts
Also having audio issues, with inconsistent sound volume announcements. There is certainly issues with this patch somewhere and i don't use any of those peripherals listed above. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:02 Unnamed Player wrote: I'm also getting the real choppy frame rates although i have never had an issue prior to this patch and a quite high end computer. Also having audio issues, with inconsistent sound volume announcements. There is certainly issues with this patch somewhere and i don't use any of those peripherals listed above. Sound volume is suppose to be different so you can hear stuff that happens off screen with a more quiet sound to it. EDIT: New thing under sound for alert fade. Turn it to 100% if you want it to not fade the sounds in and out. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Sukari
Australia183 Posts
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Moochlol
United States456 Posts
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On September 21 2011 10:41 McGuire72 wrote: Yup I use the Specter mouse. So there we go. +1, Blizzard. -_- Hope this gets fixed soon. What I don't understand is why this didn't happen in the PTR, they clearly released something without testing it first which is just sloppy. | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong746 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:10 Moochlol wrote: There is a new feature which attenuates "normal" sounds in favor of alerts, Set this fader to 100% to bypass this new feature. Ah cool, thanks, that helps. | ||
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Ldooder
United States28 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12999 Posts
I get the similar problems discussed in this thread--lag in game and on the load screen. | ||
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Meatex
Australia285 Posts
V sync can cause problems - dead space anyone? Though its unlikely to be the cause of any problems unless its constant. Secondly lag does affect performance. As in bad connection will look and feel like your pc having problems displaying stuff. This is because of the way bnet is constructed so you might have a boss computer but if your connection isn't perfect you will experience hitching Lastly blizzard are known for being less than adept at technicalities. They have bad coders (comparing to other large teams) so don't rely on blizzard giving an F enough to fix things. I have had problems that required me just to wait for the next patch Even had a tools update break the game for me on my laptop. Speaking of make sure you update your drivers to latest numbered version you can find. There is a good chance this will involve installing unsupported modded drivers so do some googling and grab one but beware of overheating so I hear. | ||
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anxiouspanda
United States56 Posts
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Neb1000
United States183 Posts
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Sc2ttyl
United States245 Posts
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Sbuiko
Switzerland56 Posts
Maybe that has something to do with it? | ||
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Reithan
United States360 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:12 Soluhwin wrote: What I don't understand is why this didn't happen in the PTR, they clearly released something without testing it first which is just sloppy. No! :O THEY WOULD NEVER. /SARCASM | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
Also their skype gets RLY loud in the beginning of the game for some reason... It also seems to lag in even small battles now for no reason, it never did that before. It's so annoying. | ||
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Bro_Stone
United States510 Posts
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Bro_Stone
United States510 Posts
I played PTR and Blizzard did have this lag, it starts when you run sc II for around 20-30 minutes where the sound becomes choppy and the gameplay lags... I stopped playing PTR because of this and I thought they would surely fix it for the actual patch... Apparently NOT... | ||
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theherder2
United States538 Posts
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MnMCounTer
Canada27 Posts
EDIT: Tried SC2 on a mac and it was perfectly fine, even though I had a spectre mouse. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2572 Posts
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:36 anxiouspanda wrote: i've had this same issue. i never lag and at the start of 3 of my games it threw me into the game at the 5 second marker This is what is happening to me and i can be sure that its not my PC or internet connection. They are both fine. | ||
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Aftershock912
United States15 Posts
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Ganseng
Russian Federation473 Posts
edit: so what do they always make a month of ptr for?.. just a rhetorical question. | ||
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KWik-E
United States72 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:51 Bro_Stone wrote: Wow the lag from the PTR carried over... I can't play with the sounds all blurred and the fps choppy:K Yeah its unplayable for me, everything is already on low too v.v | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
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inTheMood
Norway128 Posts
The windows actioncenter told me my graphic driver had stopped working 350 times... so I reinstalled the newest driver from Nvidia (I only have a 8800 gts card), but still receiving "lags". I play on very low graphics now, wich I didn't have to do before, and my computer even freezes sometimes, forcing a reboot I could run on high/medium graphics before, no problem, but not anymore. I've ordered a new graphic card today, but starting to regret now that I see you guys are experiencing the same problem. It's sc2 fault, not my graphic card. Oh well | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
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ysysys
Germany24 Posts
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Tt-Jarlaxle
Croatia4 Posts
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show.me
Sweden37 Posts
Also Im getting weird sound issues. Its very... cracky. Please let Blizzard fix it asap since I cant play with this lag at all. | ||
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R3N
740 Posts
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Alluando
Poland14 Posts
If not then there may be some sort of bug or something :/ | ||
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solidONE
United States160 Posts
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
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eVolvE342
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Rayzerwulf
United States19 Posts
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gatorling
United States30 Posts
What is more annoying are the audio issues. whenever a game effect sound happens the main music audio squelches a bit. The constant volume change makes my ears bleed. Also over the course of the last year I've noticed that game performance has decreased. Now at the start of every game I get a 1-2 second lag spike. Makes initial probe splitting a PAIN. | ||
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-CheekyDuck-
Australia398 Posts
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elKaDor
Sweden376 Posts
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DreamChaser
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NecrosTheSecond
Denmark116 Posts
Also the sound is choppy as hell | ||
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thelok
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:59 fdsdfg wrote: If your screen slows down and then speeds up, that's 100% your PC, it has nothing to do with anything happening over the network. If this is true then repairing sc2 might help. Sometimes I get into game when exact thing happens (freeze and follow with speedup). Restarting a map fixes it. If I dont fix it it continues to end of the game. | ||
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
i can't even micro in fights like 4 marines vs 6 lings, game just freezes for a couple of seconds, i just don't want to think what would happen when i would be 200/200. also using razer spectre : / | ||
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Drankme
Denmark23 Posts
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kabar
United States616 Posts
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RodYan
United States126 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13440/ | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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yotis
Czech Republic652 Posts
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pog0
United States30 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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TakeAway89
Australia2 Posts
On September 22 2011 01:32 CruiseR wrote: this lag is horrible, already lost several games cuz of it i can't even micro in fights like 4 marines vs 6 lings, game just freezes for a couple of seconds, i just don't want to think what would happen when i would be 200/200. also using razer spectre : / Disable ur apm lightning and it should be fixed. I just fixed mine by disabling that  | ||
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Ashes
United States362 Posts
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andycz
288 Posts
fuck this. edit after reading the thread: no, i don't use any of the stuff mentioned also i'd prefer not having to defrag my whole disk because of this :/ | ||
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talontromper
United States258 Posts
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Slikk
Norway81 Posts
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TheChostoProject
Mexico96 Posts
Never happened before. | ||
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:05 TakeAway89 wrote: Disable ur apm lightning and it should be fixed. I just fixed mine by disabling that thanks, seem to be fixed but played only game, hope it won't come back  | ||
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Phlatline
Croatia176 Posts
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Lixo
202 Posts
I hope it gets fixed soon ! | ||
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Tt-Jarlaxle
Croatia4 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:05 TakeAway89 wrote: Disable ur apm lightning and it should be fixed. I just fixed mine by disabling that its not working i tried it , and still same s..t , its little better in beging , but when you have moore units(food capacity) its starting to lag again | ||
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GumThief
Canada284 Posts
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
Really hoping for a quick bugfix, cause it's totally unplayable as it is. | ||
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Bizarro252
180 Posts
On September 22 2011 02:24 andycz wrote: yea, same.. game freezes, then speeds up for a sec, then runs okay for a while.. rinse, repeat fuck this. edit after reading the thread: no, i don't use any of the stuff mentioned also i'd prefer not having to defrag my whole disk because of this :/ You should be defragging every now and then anyways to keep a stable, smooth running system, thats why it takes so long, is that you dont do it enough. I defrag once every few weeks and it takes about 5 min for 3TB of drives to go through it.... | ||
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Tercotta
Canada402 Posts
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xHerodotusx
United Kingdom114 Posts
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diarsenic
United States385 Posts
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Symbiote
United States49 Posts
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Bails
United States317 Posts
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BigBadBeaver
Canada272 Posts
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Bro_Stone
United States510 Posts
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sTsCompleted
United States380 Posts
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flipstar
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hongyLOVE
United States30 Posts
Edit: I have a razer product as well | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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jackrandomsx
United States24 Posts
Give that a shot | ||
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JediZealot
United States78 Posts
Contact Blizzard Tech support and via bnet and follow the directions to send them your systems specs and diagnostic. I got a response from them in ten minutes with a link to a website where I can update the driver for my video card and I downloaded it and restarted my PC and the lag and sound issues were gone! Blizzard Tech support is awesome!!! Note: I run all settings on ultra and extreme and never had lag issues before patch 1.4.0 and this fixed the issue! I also use razor spectre and maurauder with no problems since the fix! Hope this works for everyone else! | ||
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itsNifty
Netherlands29 Posts
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dpurple
Turkmenistan592 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10318 Posts
any idea how to fix? T_T | ||
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Champ24
177 Posts
The first game is usually pretty bad with 5-6 game seconds already on the clock when I first see the map on my screen. I just play a few warm up customs before I hit ladder. | ||
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perser84
Germany399 Posts
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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Netherlands94 Posts
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cyberspace
Canada955 Posts
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
Just a Kinzu and a laptop. Nothing else running cept SC2, and still getting random 5-10 second freezes then everything speeds up. Just lost a game 100% due to this, move command units wouldn't respond till they all died. Fuck this game. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
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RedHelix
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Deception-35
United States113 Posts
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
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Hantak
Chile59 Posts
I use a Laptop a Samsung R480 with Intel i3 2.13 gHz M330 (i think its 1GB Vram) 6GB Ram, and i havent experienced any issue with lag prior this patch. Run the game in mid quality just to avoid the ocassional decrase on FPS, but honestly i have been fooling around with my game config and i cant find the solution, seems it runs the same way on low graphics as in high... and no, it aint internet speed issues. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
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CredditM
United States10 Posts
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
Basically the game is fine, no lags or anything during it but at the start after the loading screen it lags, making it hard to split drones correctly. It's the kinf o lag where the screen freezes for a split second and then jumps ahead very fast. | ||
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
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Sergio1992
Italy522 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On November 20 2011 19:26 Sergio1992 wrote: I love how blizzard makes patches that bugs the game even more. how would you call a society behaving like that? a society where big programs are complicated... | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24523 Posts
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Gemini_19
United States1225 Posts
I'm playing on low settings with pretty decent specs to run well. I remember being able to run on medium quite well. No certain SC2 hardware or whatever. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10318 Posts
My computer still has shader problems or something, like when a rax finishes or the first scv is about to come out, it'll lag... Still not fixed, even tho it was in the patch notes for 1.4.1 =/ FIX PLEASE BLIZZARD T_T | ||
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skatbone
United States1005 Posts
On November 20 2011 19:26 Sergio1992 wrote: I love how blizzard makes patches that bugs the game even more. how would you call a society behaving like that? I would call that humbling. Westerners have this assumption that we should always be progressing socially and technologically through technical interventions. The history of science suggests that technical solutions routinely produce untended consequences in the form of new problems. When Blizzard solves problems, new ones might be created in the process. Sure I want a perfect game. But I don't believe in the possibility of a perfect game--nor a perfect society. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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CredditM
United States10 Posts
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Kinshuk
India116 Posts
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