• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:46
CET 01:46
KST 09:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2291 users

Stephano contract situation - Page 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
3152 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 158 Next
Lack of content, flaming (of the French or anyone) and useless posts will be punished. Please keep it from being too inflammatory and keep discussion on-topic. -semioldguy (p.103)

Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#161
On September 20 2011 03:18 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:16 Nerski wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:02 v1dom wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:59 wezzon wrote:
Signing with coL making Millenium give him a raise perhaps?
I'd consider this a smart move if that's how it went down.


Except you can't "sign" (a contract) with a team and then just take a better offer. This is what contracts are for. Following these developments with great interest.


Legally speaking I don't think if Complexity retains his contract that he can play anywhere not under them until this is sorted...or else comlpexity could legally sue him for any penny he earns playing for mellinium.


They wouldn't do either if they have any sense left in them. It certainly wouldn't help their image and popularity to hold a talented 18-year old player against his will, let alone sue him.

If he doesn't want to play for them, he doesn't want to play and that's that.

He should've though of that before he signed it...I would be very disappointed if no penalty or SOMETHING happens as a result...otherwise what kind of fucking joke is even signing a contract when it's meaningless.
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#162
LOL hilarious. Can't wait untill he gets 'married' and says 'woopsidoopsi!' the next day.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#163
This actually sounds a lot more shady coming from Millennium... if he's already signed a contract with Complexity, you can't just ask him to come back and let that be that.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#164
I'm guessing Millenium offered him more money after they realized they'd be losing such a great player. But that's the cynic in me talking.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#165
LOL, if this doesn't cause a shitstorm I dunno what will.

A shitstorm in coL's general area.

Seems like basically, coL were like evil abductors trying to bait innocent little stephano into getting in the truck, and Mill. were like the parents talking sense into him.
memes are a dish best served dank
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#166
Huh, I wonder how this will pan out. I feel like it puts complexity in a real hard spot if stephano already signed the contract with them. Because they kind of look like "the bad guy" if they enforce it and force stephano to play for them. That would begin their relationship on bad footing..
=)=
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:22:06
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#167
It's way too costly to pursue legal action. Plus you really can't do anything. What is coL going to do? Sue Stephano in France? Sue Millenium? The only way they can do that is if Millenium is in the US, or Stephano comes to the US.

There's no clearly defined international law that would allow coL to take action against Millenium. It's kinda weird because Jason Lake is a lawyer, he should know this
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Raahka
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland30 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#168
So Stephano signs with col, Millenium finds out gets angry and makes Stephano feel bad about his decision?
OzYm
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany8 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#169
Soon Sc2 is no game anymore, it's a drama play.

THIS is not good for e-sport! 1 day there, 1 day there.

Stephano this was your biggest fail ever!
Sry that i must say it, but it's true...
Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
September 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#170
Lol..honestly.. Millenium has used its french influence to get him back to their team..and putting the blame on complexity... </3 millenium more for their backroom politics...
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia814 Posts
September 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#171
you know its drama but it sound real good.
not gonna lie as much as this is kinda wack.... who doesn't love some good drama
.lets get weird
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
September 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#172
On September 20 2011 03:18 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:16 Nerski wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:02 v1dom wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:59 wezzon wrote:
Signing with coL making Millenium give him a raise perhaps?
I'd consider this a smart move if that's how it went down.


Except you can't "sign" (a contract) with a team and then just take a better offer. This is what contracts are for. Following these developments with great interest.


Legally speaking I don't think if Complexity retains his contract that he can play anywhere not under them until this is sorted...or else comlpexity could legally sue him for any penny he earns playing for mellinium.


They wouldn't do either if they have any sense left in them. It certainly wouldn't help their image and popularity to hold a talented 18-year old player against his will, let alone sue him.

If he doesn't want to play for them, he doesn't want to play and that's that.


No that's not that. If he doesn't want to play for them he shouldn't have signed a contract to begin with. I'm 100% on coLs side on this one. If you ever want e-sport taken seriously, shit like this can't be allowed. There's no freaking point of having contracts to begin with if we allow things like this to happen.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
September 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#173
Who's to be surprised?
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
September 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#174
The only way Stephano can get out if it, if they can prove coL achieved his participation with misinformation and shady tactics. This is an unfortunate issue for all parties involved
Team Operations Director for CheckSix Gaming
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#175
oh god I love this drama
euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
September 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#176
After reading an interview with Steph where he said he has been contacted by like every top team and declined cause he wanted to stay with Millenium, seeing him go to Col was very boggling to me. So this didn't come as a surprise really.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
September 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#177
On September 20 2011 03:11 Brad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:09 KeksX wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:05 Brad wrote:
ESPORTS! So professional. This is what happens when kids make decisions. Another shambles brewing.

Yea this never happens with adults because we all know that everyone 18+ is full of wisdom and always makes the right decisions.


I'm guessing, just guessing, that the adult percentage of right decisions is a little bit higher, and at least they know that they have gotten themselves into. They can hate themselves later.

I was just trying to say that it's not the right way to bash on kids. Actually, it's just not right to bash kids.
Dimon87
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden218 Posts
September 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#178
Confusing as shit! I just hope he can get the training he needs, the potential he has is mindblowing.
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland1140 Posts
September 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#179
Sounds like Stephano just signed something without really thinking about it and then Mill. found out and panicked to get him back :p Kinda shame it had to go trough public though..
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
September 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#180
Uhhh sure as hell looks like millennium is the one who looks really shady rather than coL.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 158 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #60
CranKy Ducklings115
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft420
Nina 50
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 60
Sexy 29
yabsab 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever113
NeuroSwarm55
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox309
PPMD36
AZ_Axe35
Other Games
Grubby4047
summit1g3844
C9.Mang0216
JimRising 180
Maynarde176
Trikslyr32
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick773
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 81
• davetesta17
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 44
• Azhi_Dahaki29
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21231
League of Legends
• Doublelift2522
• Scarra959
Other Games
• imaqtpie1225
• WagamamaTV297
• Shiphtur229
Upcoming Events
ChoboTeamLeague
14m
WardiTV Korean Royale
11h 14m
BSL: GosuLeague
20h 14m
PiGosaur Cup
1d
The PondCast
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
IPSL
5 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.