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Stephano contract situation

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Lack of content, flaming (of the French or anyone) and useless posts will be punished. Please keep it from being too inflammatory and keep discussion on-topic. -semioldguy (p.103)

Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there.
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 21:53:46
September 19 2011 17:44 GMT
#1
UPDATE #2 : Complexity release a full statement.
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3129/

Their points in brief are as follows :

1- Complexity contacted Stephano first on September 1st as he was interested in joining the team.

2- Millenium and Complexity were in a bidding war for Stephano, but never pressured him into signing with them.

3- Stephano was fully aware of the terms of the contract.

4- Stephano contacted CatZ and Jason Bass (the manager of Col) and is quoted as saying "Don't worry I won't change my mind again." He then signed a legally binding contract.

5- Stephano would've been "one of the highest paid SC2 players in the world" at Complexity and they ensured that he would get "global travel" including to Korea.

Complexity are "seriously consider(ing) legal action in this matter"




UPDATE : http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3126/#

Apparently Stephano did sign a contract with Complexity and they won't let him go without a fight.

Also, a statement from Jason Lake :

On September 20 2011 03:00 jlake02 wrote:
For Mr. Page to insinuate we improperly "disoriented" a young player is an outright lie. We have spent weeks negotiating with Stephano and countering offers made by Millenium. This was no quick pressure situation.

We will take a step back and analyze the situation but I hope Millenium honors the rule of contract law and does not disrespect it in eSports. Doing so would set a precedent that would undermine all we are collectively trying to accomplish.

We will evaluate our options but I do not see a way we can allow this blatant disrespect for the contractual process to go unanswered. We will be contacting legal counsel in France and investigating courses of action.



http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/stephano-signe-avec-millenium-le-president-de-millenium-s-exprime-51014


Cedric "Cedrix" Page, President of Millenium :


"Since the start of Millenium, we dreamt of a french eSport platform that would discover young players with great potential, would support them in their passion and would follow them to the summits of skill...

Stephano joined Millenium at the start of Starcraft 2, practically unknown. We supported him as best as possible until today. He is now considered a great hope for the world circuit with amazing potential, and to have to let him go to another team would have been a complete failure for us, a nonsensical thing.

The techniques used by Complexity to recruit Stephano were quite disorienting to influence our young player towards a bad decision. After a long discussion, Stephano understood his mistake and decided to stay with Millenium for the next 12 months

This troubled day was, however, full of lessons.
This morning, with the announcement of our player to an American team, the majority of the french community considered this transfer as a logical step. I even saw some amateur writers of our site write with sadness that Millenium "could not compare."

Now, let's stop bringing ourselves down, lets stop thinking that a french player has to play abroad to succeed. The Millenium.org site has more page his then SK-Gaming.com or any other european or american team outside of Team Liquid. Our budget is certainly one of the biggest in the world in terms of E-sports teams.
So let's stop seeing ourselves as worse because we are a french team.

Stephano will sign, as agreed a CDI(Contrat a duree indeterminee, ie: a contract of work with no expiration date) as a "Professional player," identical to those signed by professional sportsmen. He will travel across the world to attempt to win many tournaments, from Asia to the USA. We put our hopes and dreams of a French victory on him, but we also expect a lot from our other Starcraft players and our soon to be League of Legends team...

Let them make us dream and cheer! Let Millenium shine, for all the passionate fans of electronic sports that we are!"

(Thanks to PlaGuE_R for the proper translation!)

Sad news for complexity, especially since he was only very recently announced to be joining them but great for Millenium and the French E-Sports scene.
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 19 2011 17:45 GMT
#2
what the hell?
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Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
September 19 2011 17:47 GMT
#3
Wow. Just wow. Can't believe he decided to stay.
TheEdgE
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada26 Posts
September 19 2011 17:47 GMT
#4
umm im confused now.
@EdgEsc2
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
September 19 2011 17:47 GMT
#5
wait what?!
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
September 19 2011 17:48 GMT
#6
Lol..how could something like this ever happen? Didn't compleixity sign some kind of contract with stephano before posting that they recruited him? Embarassing to both teams tbh and pretty unprofessional.
aka SethN
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 19 2011 17:48 GMT
#7
So did stephano breach the col contract and rejoin mil?
WarrickHunt
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
September 19 2011 17:49 GMT
#8
wait, wut? so they announced he was joining before he had actually decided, that seems pretty bad
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
September 19 2011 17:49 GMT
#9
WOW!

This is going to be a lot of drama and very very bad publicity for both teams.
I think Stephano just made a big mistake for his image and his career.
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:50:17
September 19 2011 17:49 GMT
#10
From the other thread:
On September 20 2011 02:47 coljbass wrote:
coL din not make the announcement too soon. We have a signed contract from him. So legally he can not change his mind. We will wait to talk to him and see what is going on.


what on earth is going down?!
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
September 19 2011 17:50 GMT
#11
WTF i am confused
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:51:03
September 19 2011 17:50 GMT
#12
some'body gonna look real dumb at the end of this
all will be forgotten with the patch discussions tomorrow though
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
September 19 2011 17:51 GMT
#13
this is pretty strange. i wonder if theyrs gonna be stuff going down
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9165 Posts
September 19 2011 17:51 GMT
#14
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
The means by which to recruit Complexity Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision.


Can this be translated with more finesse? It's a critical part of the story but is pretty confusing in its current form.
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 19 2011 17:51 GMT
#15
How? What? Eh... I'm confused.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
MGN
Profile Joined June 2011
France383 Posts
September 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#16
my mind is exploding
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
September 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#17
W
T
F
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#18
what i am so confused lol can we get some insider to talk about this?

i just cant wait to watch more games from him
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#19
Oh fun, more drama SotG can talk about tomorrow.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 17:54:06
September 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#20
Haha, this sounds like fun :D
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