• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:41
CET 04:41
KST 12:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains7Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains GSL CK - New online series Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE
Tourneys
[GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 BWCL Season 64 Announcement
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2348 users

Stephano contract situation - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
3152 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 156 157 158 Next
Lack of content, flaming (of the French or anyone) and useless posts will be punished. Please keep it from being too inflammatory and keep discussion on-topic. -semioldguy (p.103)

Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there.
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
September 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#21
So exactly how old is stephano? Did he even understand what he was signing when Complexity put the contract in front of him?

Not looking good.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
September 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#22
On September 20 2011 02:51 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
The means by which to recruit Complexity Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision.


Can this be translated with more finesse? It's a critical part of the story but is pretty confusing in its current form.

That is the literal translation out of french. Tbh, the french sentence isn't a totally correct one either.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
September 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#23
lol?? few days in new team, before back to old... eh -.-
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
September 19 2011 17:53 GMT
#24
So now we have to question the validity of a team signing a player or jumping the gun and announcing it early to build hype about their team? Either way this is confusing news. Good luck to Stephano on whichever team he is on.
Brood War forever!
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 19 2011 17:55 GMT
#25
Is it possible to close this topic and mod edit the Mill statement into the first topic's OP? I don't want to have to follow discussion of two threads.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 19 2011 17:55 GMT
#26
On September 20 2011 02:53 Lomak wrote:
So exactly how old is stephano? Did he even understand what he was signing when Complexity put the contract in front of him?

Not looking good.


Born '94. This is pretty interesting, personally i would've wanted to see him in coL.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#27
On September 20 2011 02:53 AA.spoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:51 itsjustatank wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
The means by which to recruit Complexity Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision.


Can this be translated with more finesse? It's a critical part of the story but is pretty confusing in its current form.

That is the literal translation out of french. Tbh, the french sentence isn't a totally correct one either.


It's the translating you get when you use a translate tool. He was more after the meaning of the sentence. If that is the meaning we see, it's still a strangely worded sentence.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#28
Respect for Stephano went 1 notch up if true.
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
September 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#29
awkward translation...

this sucks for both teams, and stephano's in a horrible spot. sad situation.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
September 19 2011 17:57 GMT
#30
This statement is so poorly drafted, I don't even know what to take apart from it. The press release needs to be properly phrased, with grammar and wording that is generally accepted by the English-speaking community.

As far as I can interpret, it seems that Stephano signed a contract with compLexity, and was going to compLexity. Now, it seems that Millennium and himself both felt bad, and wanted to stay back with each other once again.

If that is all correct, then I don't believe Stephano can legally do that, without breaking contractual agreements with compLexity.

This seems like ROOTDestiny going to compLexity, and leaving 5 days after, all again. But this time, way more serious, and way sooner.

I'll retain judgment until I see an official press release that is properly worded from both Millennium and compLexity, but as it stands, this is beyond unprofessional.
C r u m b l i n g
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
September 19 2011 17:57 GMT
#31
Oh shit

Shits about to hit the fan..
Koorb
Profile Joined March 2011
France266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:00:28
September 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#32
On September 20 2011 02:51 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
The means by which to recruit Complexity Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision.


Can this be translated with more finesse? It's a critical part of the story but is pretty confusing in its current form.


"Les moyens employés par Complexity pour recruter Stephano ont été assez désorientants pour influencer notre jeune joueur vers une mauvaise décision. Après discussion, Stephano a compris son erreur, et a décidé de rester définitivement, pour les 12 prochains mois, chez Millenium."

"The way compLexity worked in order to recruit Stephano was disorienting for him, and led our young player to take a wrong decision. After we discussed the matter with him, Stephano understood his mistake, and decided to stay for good with Millenium for the next 12 months."

Liquipedia
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#33
o.O well, at least the title was elucidating. Wonder what's up now....
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#34
haha more esports drama!
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
wezzon
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden26 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#35
Signing with coL making Millenium give him a raise perhaps?
I'd consider this a smart move if that's how it went down.
WestCoast brah
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#36
On September 20 2011 02:56 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:53 AA.spoon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:51 itsjustatank wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
The means by which to recruit Complexity Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision.


Can this be translated with more finesse? It's a critical part of the story but is pretty confusing in its current form.

That is the literal translation out of french. Tbh, the french sentence isn't a totally correct one either.


It's the translating you get when you use a translate tool. He was more after the meaning of the sentence. If that is the meaning we see, it's still a strangely worded sentence.

That is the way it is said in the article, pretty much. Basically Millennium are claiming that Complexity bamboozled Stephano into signing with them without giving him much time for thought and now he regrets his decision and pulled out. Reminds me of the situation with Destiny when Complexity acquired Root.
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#37
On September 20 2011 02:56 Talin wrote:
Respect for Stephano went 1 notch up if true.


Why would you respect someone more for not sticking to their word?

If he wanted to stay on his old team then why sign a contract before actually thinking it through? Just goes to show you the impatience of youth.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#38
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/stephano-signe-avec-millenium-le-president-de-millenium-s-exprime-51014


Cedric "Cedrix" Page, President of Millennium :



"Since the beginning of the Millennium, we dreamed of a French-discovered structure esport of young players with great potential, would support them in their passion and escort them to the summits ... Stephano joined Millennium in early Starcraft II, virtually unknown. We have supported the best so far. It is now considered a great hope of the world circuit, with enormous potential, and let him go to another team would have been for us a real failure, nonsense. The means by which to recruit Complexity Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision. After discussion, Stephano realized his mistake and decided to stay permanently, for the next 12 months, at Millennium .




The day was still troubled rich teaching.
This morning, the announcement of the departure of our American player to a structure, the majority of the French community has regarded this transfer as an increase in "logical". I have even seen fans of our site editors write that resignation Millennium "was not the weight." So let's stop devaluing, stop to think that French should leave the country to succeed. The site is millenium.org more page views than sk-gaming.com site or any European or American team out of Team Liquid. Our budget is certainly one of the world's largest structures among the e-sports. Let us therefore not as good as we are because we claim to be a French team.



Stephano as agreed to sign an employment contract CDI, as "Professional Player", identical to a professional sportsman. He will tour the world to win many tournaments, from Asia to the United States. We place our hopes in him, our dreams of victories made in France, but we also expect many of our other players and the upcoming Starcraft composition League of Legends ...

They make us dream and vibrate! Millennium that shines for all sports fans-mail that you are and that we are!"

Sad news for complexity, especially since he was only very recently announced to be joining them but great for Millennium and the French E-Sports scene.


I'll translate this properly for you, because some of this totally wrong.

"Since the start of Millenium, we dreamt of a french eSport platform that would discover young players with great potential, would support them in their passion and would follow them to the summits of skill...

Stephano joined Millenium at the start of Starcraft 2, practically unknown. We supported him as best as possible until today. He is now considered like a great hope for the world circuit with amazing potential, et to have let him go to another team would have been a complete failure for us, a nonsensical thing.

The techniques used by Complexity to recruit Stephano were quite disorienting to influence our young player towards a bad decision. After a long discussion, Stephano understood his error and decided to definitely stay with Millenium for the next 12 months

This troubled day was, however, full of teachings.
This morning, with the announcement of our player to an American team, the majority of the french community considered this transfer as a "logica" progression. I even saw some amateur writers of our site write with sadness that Millenium "could not compare."

Now, let's stop bringing ourselves down, lets stop thinking that a french player has to play abroad to succeed. The Millenium.org site has more page his then SK-Gaming.com or any other european or american team outside of Team Liquid. Our budget is certainly one of the biggest in the world in terms of E-sports teams.
So let's stop seeing ourselves as worse because we are a french team.

Stephano will sign, as agreed a CDI(Contrat a duree indeterminee, ie: a contract of work with no expiration date) as a "Professional player," identical to those signed by profesionally sportsmen. He will travel across the world to win many tournaments, from Asia to the USA. We put our hopes and dreams of a French victory on him, but we also expect a lot from our other Starcraft players et our soon to be League of Legends team...

Let them make us dream and cheer! Let Millenium shine, for all the passionate fans of electronic sports that we are!"
TLO FIGHTING | me all in, he drone drone drone, me win - SK.MC | JINROLLED! | KraToss for the win
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#39
This is... really weird. I thought this was all sorted out and based on Complexity's statements it seemed like it was.

Drama incoming.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
September 19 2011 18:01 GMT
#40
Bordering hilarity, this is.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 156 157 158 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
GSL CK - Day 1
CranKy Ducklings100
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 248
ProTech131
mcanning 71
PiLiPiLi 12
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3275
Jaeyun 53
ggaemo 44
-ZergGirl 35
NaDa 32
Bale 18
Leta 16
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm92
League of Legends
JimRising 543
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1528
taco 678
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox630
Other Games
summit1g15075
WinterStarcraft468
C9.Mang0317
ViBE64
Mew2King53
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2112
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta24
• Berry_CruncH16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt306
Other Games
• Scarra519
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
6h 19m
WardiTV Team League
8h 19m
Replay Cast
20h 19m
Replay Cast
1d 20h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-11
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.