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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
September 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#141
On September 20 2011 03:13 kovac wrote:
From the col press it doesn't sound like he have signed anything

"We have been talking to Stephano for quite some time and today we are thrilled to announce he will be joining our family"


Complexity has confirmed that they waited until they had a signed contract from him to make the announcement.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#142
On September 20 2011 03:16 Juanald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:14 Sandro wrote:
Well, I guess this means that Col can rehire Stalife and Firezerg.


dont count out mOoNGlAdE he is now a free agent and no offense to stephano hes actually proven himself on lan


Please don't start this again...
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
September 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#143
This is terrible!
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:18:20
September 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#144
Update:

Within the last hour Team Millennium announced that Stephano was remaining with their organization despite the fact he executed a legally binding contract with compLexity. We are extremely disappointed by this turn of events are are seeking more information while we evaluate our legal options with French counsel. By no means do we want a player who does not want to be part of our organization but we can not simply allow players and organizations to completely disrespect the legal contractual process that ensures stability in our evolving sport.


http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3126/#

He did sign a contract.
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
September 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#145
Confusion!

It was super effective!

---

hopefully he stays with coL tbh. They seem to be a much bigger team so more potential for training etc.. etc.. gl hf
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:18:12
September 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#146
WTF Mind EXplode!! ... The Article the way it's written is rather confusing....

"The techniques used by Complexity to recruit Stephano were quite disorienting to influence our young player towards a bad decision. After a long discussion, Stephano understood his error and decided to definitely stay with Millenium for the next 12 months

This troubled day was, however, full of lessons.
This morning, with the announcement of our player to an American team, the majority of the french community considered this transfer as a logical step. I even saw some amateur writers of our site write with sadness that Millenium "could not compare.
" "

What?? Lol can someone elaborate.

Or is this about to bring a Shit Storm. O.o I don't really Like Complexity at all but this seems akward very perplexing.


Never GG MKP | IdrA
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:18:56
September 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#147
On September 20 2011 03:16 Jtom wrote:
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On September 20 2011 03:09 Tennet wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:59 Jtom wrote:
Reminds me of the situation with Destiny when Complexity acquired Root.


Destiny's situation is different, he never wanted to join coL he only did it for his teammates.

My point is that both Destiny and Stephano signed without much thought, or at least their minds were clouded a bit when they were signing. Both left not long after they signed because as soon as they were thinking straight, they realized they didn't want to play for Complexity.

The situations are like, the same, but completely different. In Destiny's case, there's no one to sue/blame but Destiny himself just because he didn't want to be in Complexity. With this, there's Stephano, but also Millenium, which is an actual organization, rather than an individual player, that is trying to pull back a player into a different team.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:18:26
September 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#148
If coL announced it, I'm sure he signed a contract, this will be really interesting. But I doubt anything legal will occur, just bad blood
Team Operations Director for CheckSix Gaming
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#149
players gonna have to start getting managers and a PR crew because many obviously have no clue how the real world works
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#150
On September 20 2011 03:16 Grettin wrote:
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SirScoots SirScoots
I say management of coL and Mil do a showmatch, b05 for Stephano's contract!


I agree.


I was going to suggest this as well but then remembered Complexity could call on DongRaeGu, Keen, sC, Genius and Noblesse to pound face.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
September 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#151
On September 20 2011 03:06 Emporio wrote:
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On September 20 2011 03:04 evoli wrote:
With the translation not being the greatest, I think one of two things happened:

1. Stephano signed with coL while he was still signed with Millenium. This seems like it might be possible, as I never saw a statement from Millenium indicating Stephano's contract had run out.

2. Stephano got cold feet with coL and decided he wanted to stay with Millenium. This seems less likely, as coL staff would should be able to enforce the contract he signed (though it's worth mentioning they were really gracious with Destiny and let him out his contract days after signing).

I doubt 1. happened because Millenium would have a legitimate argument for why Stephano was staying. They didn't mention it, so I'm inclined to think there was no contract with them prior to the coL contract.


I know that when HuK was on Millenium last year he was contracted, so I'd presume they'd be in the habit of signing all their players.
General Manager for EG // twitter.com/gosutrolling
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:19:30
September 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#152
On September 20 2011 03:16 Nerski wrote:
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On September 20 2011 03:02 v1dom wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:59 wezzon wrote:
Signing with coL making Millenium give him a raise perhaps?
I'd consider this a smart move if that's how it went down.


Except you can't "sign" (a contract) with a team and then just take a better offer. This is what contracts are for. Following these developments with great interest.


Legally speaking I don't think if Complexity retains his contract that he can play anywhere not under them until this is sorted...or else comlpexity could legally sue him for any penny he earns playing for mellinium.


They wouldn't do either if they have any sense left in them. It certainly wouldn't help their image and popularity to hold a talented 18-year old player against his will, let alone sue him.

If he doesn't want to play for them, he doesn't want to play and that's that.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#153
rofl. and I mean it "rofl". when I saw the news about stephano going to coL, it kinda confused for some reasons, but I was like "whatever, I hope this works out great for him and his new team". But when I now read that he stays with M I`m actually smiling. Good Luck Stephano, you are an awesome player and I hope you find the right mindset to stay on track and improve more and more.
keep it deep! @zulison
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#154
And don't forget that a contract in France provides him with social care. And thus counts towards its retirement. That's not something he would have with coL.
knL
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany400 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#155
Iam so freaking glad...

Who ever made those mistakes col, mil or stephano iam just happy he stays with Millenium. They were long time a talentfactory for sc2 and i was very sad when i read that stephano would leave.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#156
There is a lot of flowery speech in the millenium article for some reason. That worries me.
twitch.tv/medrea
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
September 19 2011 18:20 GMT
#157
Well this is fairly awkward.

Millenium... Complexity... hell for all I care Ratz, as long as Stephano keeps ripping tournaments apart I will support him. Gogo :D
MonDeW
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark369 Posts
September 19 2011 18:20 GMT
#158
How funny is it to see the 2 topics about the subject.

"Stephano decides to stay with Millenium"

"Stephano joins col"
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 19 2011 18:20 GMT
#159
haha wtf??? quickest moveever!!!
Live and Let Die!
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
September 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#160
On September 20 2011 03:18 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:16 Jtom wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:09 Tennet wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:59 Jtom wrote:
Reminds me of the situation with Destiny when Complexity acquired Root.


Destiny's situation is different, he never wanted to join coL he only did it for his teammates.

My point is that both Destiny and Stephano signed without much thought, or at least their minds were clouded a bit when they were signing. Both left not long after they signed because as soon as they were thinking straight, they realized they didn't want to play for Complexity.

The situations are like, the same, but completely different. In Destiny's case, there's no one to sue/blame but Destiny himself just because he didn't want to be in Complexity. With this, there's Stephano, but also Millenium, which is an actual organization, rather than an individual player, that is trying to pull back a player into a different team.

I know, they are not the same but they are alike. That is all I was trying to say.
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
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