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Lack of content, flaming (of the French or anyone) and useless posts will be punished. Please keep it from being too inflammatory and keep discussion on-topic. -semioldguy (p.103)

Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there.
T-oastbro-T
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany378 Posts
September 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#181
The Millennium-statement makes it sound as if Complexity got Stephano drunk and lured him into signing their contract. I'm hoping for a less confusing update from Mil., before I decide whether or not I approve of this sudden change of heart. ^^
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:25:02
September 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#182
Did he get scared of leaving his country?

Didn't he sign a contract with Complexity?!?!?! you cant just back out after signing right?
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
September 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#183
On September 20 2011 03:21 marttorn wrote:
LOL, if this doesn't cause a shitstorm I dunno what will.

A shitstorm in coL's general area.

Seems like basically, coL were like evil abductors trying to bait innocent little stephano into getting in the truck, and Mill. were like the parents talking sense into him.


LOL Exacty!

That's how i interpreted it after Reading the Article.. I don't really like Complexity !

I wonder what Col(Complexity)'s statement release is going to say about this Situation (ShitStorm)
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
September 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#184
On September 20 2011 03:19 Otolia wrote:
And don't forget that a contract in France provides him with social care. And thus counts towards its retirement. That's not something he would have with coL.

I don't think he was thinking about that when making the decision.

Col has a lot more money to send him to tournament and they are affiliated with MVP, they could provide him a very good training in korea.
lollyz
Profile Joined April 2011
218 Posts
September 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#185
./popcorn

User was warned for this post
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#186
jeeze stephano can't sign a contract then say never mind... Should think about it more or talk with millenium before signing if you want to change your mind xD.
When I think of something else, something will go here
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
September 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#187
On September 20 2011 03:24 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:21 marttorn wrote:
LOL, if this doesn't cause a shitstorm I dunno what will.

A shitstorm in coL's general area.

Seems like basically, coL were like evil abductors trying to bait innocent little stephano into getting in the truck, and Mill. were like the parents talking sense into him.


LOL Exacty!

That's how i interpreted it after Reading the Article.. I don't really like Complexity !

I wonder what Col(Complexity)'s statement release is going to say about this Situation (ShitStorm)


http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3126/#
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#188
On September 20 2011 03:22 meRz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:18 Talin wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:16 Nerski wrote:
On September 20 2011 03:02 v1dom wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:59 wezzon wrote:
Signing with coL making Millenium give him a raise perhaps?
I'd consider this a smart move if that's how it went down.


Except you can't "sign" (a contract) with a team and then just take a better offer. This is what contracts are for. Following these developments with great interest.


Legally speaking I don't think if Complexity retains his contract that he can play anywhere not under them until this is sorted...or else comlpexity could legally sue him for any penny he earns playing for mellinium.


They wouldn't do either if they have any sense left in them. It certainly wouldn't help their image and popularity to hold a talented 18-year old player against his will, let alone sue him.

If he doesn't want to play for them, he doesn't want to play and that's that.


No that's not that. If he doesn't want to play for them he shouldn't have signed a contract to begin with. I'm 100% on coLs side on this one. If you ever want e-sport taken seriously, shit like this can't be allowed. There's no freaking point of having contracts to begin with if we allow things like this to happen.

Exactly. Everyone needs to understand this. This is exactly why Complexity has to do something about this. I don't know anything about international law so I don't know if they have any legal recourse. But if they do, they have to exercise it. And if they don't, Millenium better compensate them in some way or this could lead to a slippery slope of a shitstorm.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#189
drama! this is all very confusing
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Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#190
On September 20 2011 03:22 Ashes wrote:
Lol..honestly.. Millenium has used its french influence to get him back to their team..and putting the blame on complexity... </3 millenium more for their backroom politics...


Could also be another american team stating that they recruited someone before they signed.. :-)
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Kairos~
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada129 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#191
Whoa! Crazy man! So insane! Holy moly!
Huge EG Fan Right Here ^
Lamppost
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada317 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#192
If we take everything we know atm as facts I believe that stephano is the one that as done the most wrong
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Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#193
By the comments in the press release by Millennium toward Complexity. It sort of sounds like M guilt tripped Stephano into signing with them.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#194
The one first and foremost to blame for this mess is Stephano, not the teams.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#195
I lost alot of respect for millenium today. If stephano decided to stay with millenium thats fine but theres no reason to call complexity dirty if they offered him something he wanted and he took it. And millenium being well funded? Why did tod leave then?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:26:44
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#196
I know he's young and all, but still. He can't just sign a professional sports contract (supposedly the biggest ever given to a French progamer) and then change his mind a day later because he has a better offer from his old team. He should have taken his time, listened to both teams, and decided instead of picking one and then suddenly going the other way.

They shouldn't force him to play, but if he really did the sign the contract, Millenium should be forced to buy out the contract to have Stephano on their team. He's a very talented player with a lot of potential to be the best foreigner in the world, so I can see why Complexity would be upset if he signed a binding contract. Him going to Complexity would up their popularity and give them a player who can go to Korea and try to be the first foreign GSL champion. Whichever foreigner, if ever, can win a GSL, that team will be rolling in sponsors and publicity.
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lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#197
Does this mean he will no longer be at MLG Orlando?
SEn hwaiting!!!
Pagi
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia4 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#198
On September 20 2011 02:44 Jtom wrote:
Our budget is certainly one of the biggest in the world in terms of E-sports teams.


Hmmmm big budget but no success... maybe he would be better with coL... o.O
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#199
On September 20 2011 03:22 VPGeneralHans wrote:
The only way Stephano can get out if it, if they can prove coL achieved his participation with misinformation and shady tactics. This is an unfortunate issue for all parties involved

ooor Millenium has agreed to pay the bill for whatever sum complexity will sue after Stephano breached contract.

If he had signed one, obviously.



I can tell that things are going to be hectic at col. HQ right about now. :lol
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
September 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#200
Anyone else worried the stress from all of this confusion will negatively affect Stephano's play?

I hope everything turns out well...
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