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Lack of content, flaming (of the French or anyone) and useless posts will be punished. Please keep it from being too inflammatory and keep discussion on-topic. -semioldguy (p.103) Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there. | ||
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:51 itsjustatank wrote: Can this be translated with more finesse? It's a critical part of the story but is pretty confusing in its current form. It's pretty much what he said, he's saying that they used tactics to confuse him into making a bad decision. *Not trying to put any words in anyone's mouth, it's just pretty much what he said* | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:41 s4life wrote: Apparently you didn't read all the mud throwing the manager of millenium has been doing for the past few hours... if that -- and the fact that a player just shit in their faces -- does not affect negatively the image of a team, then what does? there is little anyone can do at this point, it's a lose/lose situation for all involved. There are very few people I have seen actually think Mill. is in the right for how they have acted on their stream towards this situation. From what I have read (albeit with no legal education whatsoever) Mill. has not done anything wrong. They may help represent Stephano if any legal action does come, but to me there isn't anything that can actually be pinned on them. My interpretation of what Jason Lake said on Reddit is that they (complexity) are pursuing legal action against Stephano for breach of contract. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:00 Furycrab wrote: It's pretty much what he said, he's saying that they used tactics to confuse him into making a bad decision. *Not trying to put any words in anyone's mouth, it's just pretty much what he said* It was an 18 day long brainwashing which contained promises of more money and korean training. :D | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
Best of luck to Complexity in the future. ^_^ User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Sandro
897 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:10 Hall0wed wrote: I have no respect for Stephano or Millenium after all this. Oh and no respect for France either! Best of luck to Complexity in the future. ^_^ I'm sure France really cares about the opinion of an American on the internet. | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:10 Hall0wed wrote: I have no respect for Stephano or Millenium after all this. Oh and no respect for France either! Best of luck to Complexity in the future. ^_^ Lol, basing your opinion on an entire nation off of this. Some people, just silly. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:44 Msr wrote: It is a shame a seasoned very good player like stephano is having issues with a very low caliber team like complexity. Pretty sure a contract is a contract though. Learn your history before you say stupid shit | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:15 SenorChang wrote: Lol, basing your opinion on an entire nation off of this. Some people, just silly. If it is indeed French contract law that is getting Stephano off the hook, then dragging the entire nation into it might not be so absurd after all. | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:10 Hall0wed wrote: I have no respect for Stephano or Millenium after all this. Oh and no respect for France either! Best of luck to Complexity in the future. ^_^ Dude, might do you some good to pay attention to the mod heading at the top of the page. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:18 Falcor wrote: Learn your history before you say stupid shit Also, don't say stupid shit! | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:18 Slider954 wrote: Dude, might do you some good to pay attention to the mod heading at the top of the page. Eh saying that they don't have my respect isn't really flaming. Respect is something you earn and not really something that one should be upset about if they have not worked to earn it. Lol, basing your opinion on an entire nation off of this. Some people, just silly. Who said I based my opinion of an entire nation off this? Some people, just silly. | ||
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
Because by all legal sanity stephano and millenium are going to lose hard... | ||
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:18 number1gog wrote: If it is indeed French contract law that is getting Stephano off the hook, then dragging the entire nation into it might not be so absurd after all. Relax, France is a great country and should not be mistaken for what the Millenium shills portray in this thread. If Stephano broke a legal contract then he will not get off the hook if Complexity chooses to sue. The more worthy target however is Millenium and damages against them for tortious interference would probably destroy that hovel of a team. What would happen if Complexity went the legal route: they would file suit in the U.S. A judgment for Complexity would receive cursory affirmation by international courts and Millenium would pay out the ass. | ||
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Pieismyign
United States176 Posts
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Crosswind
United States279 Posts
It may shock some of you to hear that sometimes 18-year olds are inconsistent. It may amaze you that teams run by people who are largely ex-gamers and self-taught amateur businessmen may not live up to your standards of professionalism. But rest assured - this is not the first time these things have happened, and it will not be the last. Some might go so far as to say that these things happen all the time. Hating 18-year-olds for changing their minds or fledgling organizations for lacking professionalism is like hating a dog for chasing cars. Probably justifiable, but ultimately silly. Smile, and cheer for Stephano, who is a fantastic and promising player, or for Mill/CoL, who are excellent teams giving young players opportunities. -Cross | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:10 Hall0wed wrote: I have no respect for Stephano or Millenium after all this. Oh and no respect for France either! Best of luck to Complexity in the future. ^_^ Who said I based my opinion of an entire nation off this? Some people, just silly. Um you did, see the part I bolded. Saying you have no respect for Stephano or Mill or France either 'after all this' says you are basing your opinion on all 3 off of this one incident. Nothing else has been brought up that you could base an opinion from. | ||
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Tatari
United States1179 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:10 Hall0wed wrote: I have no respect for Stephano or Millenium after all this. Oh and no respect for France either! Best of luck to Complexity in the future. ^_^ One guy and two entities get involved in some shit drama, and that influences you to hate on a country? Curious to see how many countries you'll have no respect for with mundane reasons. Hate to say it, but there really needs to be some sort of governing body that regulates player transfers. All of this drama and x team's manager/coach spouting stuff about y team stealing x team's player is just downright irritating. | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:23 Pyo wrote: This whole situation is just so bizarre... I mean I wouldn't have pegged Stephano as being such a high profile player to warrant this kind of drama (maybe he's big in France?). I'm not gonna be one of those idiots parroting that this sort of drama hurts e-sports, but I will go so far to say that it's annoying to have to be constantly hearing/thinking about. It's nearly as infuriating as the NBA/NFL lockouts... Big in France?? You have got to be kidding Stephano is the biggest sc2 talent coming out from the foreign scene. He is so good. Every major team has tried to sign Stephano for some time now. | ||
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