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On September 20 2011 16:23 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 12:27 sansalvador wrote:On September 20 2011 12:19 GMonster wrote: well its funny cause a lot of the stuff he says is true. Like if i play IdrA, i have a decent chance of beating him on the ladder just because im really really really bad, which sounds silly but i can open... 4 rax allin and it could catch him off guard. Which makes it hard to know what they are doing cause... again we bad. Like a master league player playing against Diamond, you can actually lose cause you can't predict what they will do. IMHO it is the defintion of a good player to not die even when you don't know what your opponent is doing. That is quite a basic skill, isn't it? That's how RTS, like Brood War, are supposed to work. It's very easy to lose in SC2 to completely random stuff. Either that or SC2 is the same way and Idra's builds are too greedy.
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On September 20 2011 09:12 ReignFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:10 Xinder wrote: Not sure how many of you guys follow poker. Idra has always reminded me of Phil Helmuth. Phil Helmuth's view of poker is "If it weren't for luck, I'd win 'em all". Idra has a similar mentality. "If it weren't for every build that isn't considered 'standard' I'd win 'em all". Also both tend to rage and are pretty BM. It's always made me laugh both when Phil Helmuth does/says stuff and when Idra does/says stuff. IdrA is actually better at what he does than phil hellmuth though hellmuth is very delusional about his "skills", I'm hoping most of it is just an act
Not sure how you judge "better". I dislike Hellmuth but he's *far* more accomplished than Idra. Regardless, the similarities are scary.
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Great compilation. If I have the chance, usually I'll watch the stream.. really learn a lot from it.. GG Idra
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He really dislikes SC2. Too bad he can't have a real job now :p
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Does anyone know the song from 0:54 to 1:04?
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What is the song playing at 4:58-5:00?
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That...was...frigging hilarious
Guy could've been a comedian. His delivery is so deadpan.
"His units were clumped. That's unfortunate for him"
"We dont actually have hookers at the EG house. That was just sense of humor"
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the things he says to his opponents are disgusting..
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Protoss unit are very good, it's nice to have them on your side :D
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On September 21 2011 05:22 decaf wrote: the things he says to his opponents are disgusting..
Welcome to starcraft.
If you think listening to idra call people "retarded, silly, bad, and stupid" is bad you should try actually playing a game and listen to people tell you they want to 'face fuck your family and slit their throat' or "burn your house down while you in there' or "i hope you die you fucking cunt nigger"
If anyone actually thinks the things idra says are so terrible they need to take a step back and look at how genuinely immature the majority of players are in this game.
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I think a lot of the BM is actually directed at the game but gets projected onto the player. Many people can play terran or protoss at a lower skill and compete at the top level on the ladder. Zerg is just harder to play and someone without a deeper understanding of the game playing as zerg can still lose to a cheesy terran or protoss.
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lols that's great. goog IdrA!!! I can't stop the cheese either T.T
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On September 21 2011 06:03 Soliduok wrote: I think a lot of the BM is actually directed at the game but gets projected onto the player. Many people can play terran or protoss at a lower skill and compete at the top level on the ladder. Zerg is just harder to play and someone without a deeper understanding of the game playing as zerg can still lose to a cheesy terran or protoss. Not again...
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As a random player who mained zerg in season 1 and 2 I can say without much doubt that zerg is the easiest to play mechanically, whereas terran is the hardest. Not dying to stupid shit in the early game as zerg is tough, however.
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On September 21 2011 07:02 the p00n wrote: As a random player who mained zerg in season 1 and 2 I can say without much doubt that zerg is the easiest to play mechanically, whereas terran is the hardest. Not dying to stupid shit in the early game as zerg is tough, however.
Well Nerchio who was top10 EU playing as random for quite a while, disagrees with you. I gueass if one is just "A" moving with mass units it looks to be easy but i dont think he'll have much success.
also my friend whos top master, always has like 50 more apm when playing Zerg than other races so...
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On September 20 2011 16:23 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 12:27 sansalvador wrote:On September 20 2011 12:19 GMonster wrote: well its funny cause a lot of the stuff he says is true. Like if i play IdrA, i have a decent chance of beating him on the ladder just because im really really really bad, which sounds silly but i can open... 4 rax allin and it could catch him off guard. Which makes it hard to know what they are doing cause... again we bad. Like a master league player playing against Diamond, you can actually lose cause you can't predict what they will do. IMHO it is the defintion of a good player to not die even when you don't know what your opponent is doing. That is quite a basic skill, isn't it? That's how RTS, like Brood War, are supposed to work. It's very easy to lose in SC2 to completely random stuff. Nostalgia clouding your memory perhaps? There was so much stupid shit in BW you could lose to instantly, even against worst players. Chief offender was the DT drop in TvP -_-
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lol idra, ur awesome
never change
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what Idra was saying is that you can make Masters using a single cheese build as is evidenced by the strategy forum week after week. SC2 is not like SC1..yet.
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On September 21 2011 00:20 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 16:23 SafeAsCheese wrote:On September 20 2011 12:27 sansalvador wrote:On September 20 2011 12:19 GMonster wrote: well its funny cause a lot of the stuff he says is true. Like if i play IdrA, i have a decent chance of beating him on the ladder just because im really really really bad, which sounds silly but i can open... 4 rax allin and it could catch him off guard. Which makes it hard to know what they are doing cause... again we bad. Like a master league player playing against Diamond, you can actually lose cause you can't predict what they will do. IMHO it is the defintion of a good player to not die even when you don't know what your opponent is doing. That is quite a basic skill, isn't it? That's how RTS, like Brood War, are supposed to work. It's very easy to lose in SC2 to completely random stuff. Either that or SC2 is the same way and Idra's builds are too greedy.
Yeah basically, if you are actually better than everyone else you can cut corners to get the scouting you need in or put up more defense then needed. Instead good players still cut corners and don't innovate because they already have the game figured out in their head.
I will always be a fan of IdrA, but his mentality doesn't go along with Playing to Win. He would be so much more scary if he didn't try to be only a machine macro god.
Making excuses why you lose the game instead of figuring out how to beat these cheesy all-in strategies is just a horrible mindset to have when trying to play a game professionally. I really enjoyed Rekrul's post talking about him losing to F91.
Anyway, these videos are classic IdrA and I enjoy watching the amount of BM that comes out of his mouth.
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Whats the song he is listening to at 6:56? I recognize it from somewhere...
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