EPTSorry for the low quality at the beginning. It improves fast. Footage taken from IdrA's stream at the EG house, the week before Dreamhack Valencia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUGNVpzB2t0
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[Video] IdrA being IdrA -- A Compilation of Quotes
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ShrimpDance
392 Posts
Sorry for the low quality at the beginning. It improves fast. Footage taken from IdrA's stream at the EG house, the week before Dreamhack Valencia. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Vega152
United States70 Posts
I too am a fan of dry humor, and IdrA is definitely hilarious. Keep up the good work :D | ||
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BabyKnight
Denmark112 Posts
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The_Piper42
United States426 Posts
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pt
United States813 Posts
 Make a compilation of idra defending all ins on ladder! That'd be sick! | ||
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Boraz
United States361 Posts
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StaplerPhone
United States813 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Rider
Netherlands127 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
i just started this video here at work and can't stop laughing and my co-workers are like "wtf is so funny". I'm sitting here in my suit at work and thinking of how I can explain to my co-workers I am watching a video-game professional guy saying funny stuff about his opponents god I love starcraft 2 and Idra just made my boring monday-workday here at work. | ||
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nobuild
United States39 Posts
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
This is why I love Idra "please stop adding me on skype" "you are all fuckers" | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
AMAZING | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
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hahaimhenry
Canada368 Posts
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Dubpace
United States251 Posts
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GUImperfect
Guam23 Posts
nice video man good job. | ||
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HyruleanTubist
United States189 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
terrible mentality to have when you're actually trying to be not terrible not that idra is considering his practice regimen | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
"Never seen this guy before... ...but he's probably not very good!" LOL | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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Nuf
Denmark145 Posts
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Antithesis
Germany1145 Posts
Good stuff. | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
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Heavenly
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xAPOCALYPSEx
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
What's funny is that he isn't even trying to be entertaining, he's just a bitter, cold-blooded, jaded zerg Ahhhhh I hope he never changes. | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
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xilaratu
United States233 Posts
A+ :D | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
<3 | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
Seems he says that about everyone Great compilation though, really enjoyed it :D | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
it seems to me that the way he consistently has acted in the last 5 years that this isn't "deadpan" or dry humor, this really is the way idra acts | ||
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jupidar
United States229 Posts
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
That said, I agree with IdrA that marines are strong lol | ||
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
The best feeling ever :D | ||
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LDdota
United States1465 Posts
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:31 Heavenly wrote: Haha I never realized how much he says "this guy is just bad". He doesn't have a very high opinion of anyone on ladder. yeah, cause NA ladder sucks with like 5-10 exceptions | ||
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ElemUnit
United States38 Posts
I heard God-awful being thrown in there a couple times, but i think just bad takes it for the most used Idra phrase Loved this, tyvm | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:37 NowLookHere wrote: Hahahaha... no wonder Idra hasn't won anything in forever. He's a mental midget. Yeah, I am sure every other pro is totally all like "That guy was awesome, totally outplayed me, I wish I could be like them." when they lose. Right or not doesn't matter, it's just not how the human mind works. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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Eviltoast
Australia166 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
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lulzury
United States236 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:39 SafeAsCheese wrote: Yeah, I am sure every other pro is totally all like "That guy was awesome, totally outplayed me, I wish I could be like them." when they lose. Right or not doesn't matter, it's just not how the human mind works. Oh look your defending Idra, what a surprise. If you watch that video and think his mentality when it comes to this game is good, well thats just sad. | ||
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xasuma
Chile62 Posts
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OscarN
Cape Verde292 Posts
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Jubeiz
Canada23 Posts
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
If Idra wins: That guy was just terrible | ||
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LDdota
United States1465 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:39 SafeAsCheese wrote: Yeah, I am sure every other pro is totally all like "That guy was awesome, totally outplayed me, I wish I could be like them." when they lose. Right or not doesn't matter, it's just not how the human mind works. Wrong, that's just not how Idra's mind works. Watch a post-match interview of truly elite athletes like Tom Brady, Rafael Nadal, etc, they will always admit there are things they can do better (after a big win and ESPECIALLY after a big loss). The greats know there's always room to improve and that they can only control their own play, that's why they focus on their mistakes and ways to improve. The players who are busy complaining about external factors or failing to take responsibility for their own mistakes are the ones who never achieve their potential. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:34 red4ce wrote: I'd kill to see Idra laddering on the KR server. Wanna see which players he thinks are legit and which are "just bad" when he used to stream from korea he would rage quit streaming because of all the cheese, i remember he started on night, got scv all ined 4 times in a row by all different terrans and just stopped streaming | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:43 OscarN wrote: TYhere was like little effort to be putting this video together, LOL i mean i was hoping it was all the BM he was doing in the last year, not three days of streaming.. disappointing it says right in the OP it was just from the week leading up to DH Valencia. Why would you expect different? | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:34 Golgotha wrote: lmao this is awesome. but it kinda makes me sad cuz i think his attitude towards the game is making him underperform. he hasnt been doing well lately...and maybe its cuz he "fuking hates sc2". I assure you, if you ever get the opportunity to watch IdrA stream, do so. It's really interesting to see the game from his perspective, because he rarely makes mistakes and only loses when the opponent takes a ridiculous risk or abuses some nutty strategy. You definitely see where the bitterness comes from, because he rarely gets outplayed on the NA ladder. I'm not saying I agree with his issues with SC2, or his attitude, or think that's he's a perfect player -- but I understand his pain. LOL. I think it's just a matter of time before he bounces back. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:44 NowLookHere wrote: Wrong, that's just not how Idra's mind works. Watch a post-match interview of truly elite athletes like Tom Brady, Rafael Nadal, etc, they will always admit there are things they can do better (after a big win and ESPECIALLY after a big loss). The greats know there's always room to improve and that they can only control their own play, that's why they focus on their mistakes and ways to improve. The players who are busy complaining about external factors or failing to take responsibility for their own mistakes are the ones who never achieve their potential. IdrA says he doesn't play very well or that other players play well all the time, most haters just choose to not listen to those tidbits. What he thinks of random NA ladder people doesn't effect his mindset, he knows there are dozens of koreans currently better that he will have to work to overcome, and he doesn't call them bad. | ||
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:47 SafeAsCheese wrote: IdrA says he doesn't play very well or that other players play well all the time, most haters just choose to not listen to those tidbits. What he thinks of random NA ladder people doesn't effect his mindset, he knows there are dozens of koreans currently better that he will have to work to overcome, and he doesn't call them bad. He still has a terrible attitude when it comes to this game. This is well documented outside of this video. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Here, IdrA, just for you: Main Entry: terrible Definition: bad, horrible Synonyms: abhorrent, appalling, atrocious, awe-inspiring, awesome, awful, beastly, dangerous, desperate, dire, disastrous, disturbing, dread, dreaded, dreadful, extreme, fearful, frightful, ghastly, gruesome, harrowing, hateful, hideous, horrendous, horrid, horrifying, inconvenient, loathsome, monstrous, obnoxious, odious, offensive, petrifying, poor, repulsive, revolting, rotten, serious, severe, shocking, unfortunate, unnerving, unpleasant, unwelcome, vile PS. After posting that i realized he already uses most of those, LOL | ||
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DanielxD
Peru52 Posts
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blahz0r
3030 Posts
I would not recommend watching it more than once though. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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IronMonocle
Canada142 Posts
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Lunas
253 Posts
And btw. No gg, No skill isnt retarded Idra its the mindset you need to become good! | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:25 JerKy wrote: LOL totally made my night Truly awesome video and we need tons more. God I love Idra lol. | ||
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Deindar
United States302 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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StarFox1
United States38 Posts
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x-Catalyst
United States921 Posts
Lol, good stuff, thanks for the video! | ||
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Delinius
United States324 Posts
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t1mid
United States143 Posts
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Wren
United States745 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:44 NowLookHere wrote: Wrong, that's just not how Idra's mind works. Watch a post-match interview of truly elite athletes like Tom Brady, Rafael Nadal, etc, they will always admit there are things they can do better (after a big win and ESPECIALLY after a big loss). The greats know there's always room to improve and that they can only control their own play, that's why they focus on their mistakes and ways to improve. The players who are busy complaining about external factors or failing to take responsibility for their own mistakes are the ones who never achieve their potential. A huge difference between sc2 pros and top-class athletes like you mention is that the sports they play allow the perfect execution of physical feats to overcome the opponent. One of the primary sources of IdrA's frustration is that (he believes) there are too many opportunities for the worse, sloppier player to win a game. These cheesy, coin-flippy, builds and situations are extremely common and annoy more players than just IdrA. There's also a lot of PR bullshit involved with the politeness shown to an opponent in professional athletics, which IdrA is too blunt to bother with. | ||
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bwally
United States670 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:43 OscarN wrote: TYhere was like little effort to be putting this video together, LOL i mean i was hoping it was all the BM he was doing in the last year, not three days of streaming.. disappointing That video would be infinitely long. | ||
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Nesquik
United Kingdom600 Posts
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Phlatline
Croatia176 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Terr
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I think a lot of what he says about SC2 is kinna accurate though. It's a great game as far as games go... but compared to Broodwar... well ya. Keep kickin the knowledge on that stream bro. lol That shit is gold. | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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RodYan
United States126 Posts
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
I figure he really is like this during a game, but in person he's probably actually quite personable. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:04 legaton wrote: I dropped the video after two minutes. What's so funny about a pro with Tourette syndrome and a delusional perception of his/others people ability? He doesn't actually swear that much. Unless you think awful and terrible are swear words Also, people think this is an act??? What!?!?!? | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
"that guy is fucking terrible" | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8302 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8302 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:04 legaton wrote: I dropped the video after two minutes. What's so funny about a pro with Tourette syndrome and a delusional perception of his/others people ability? I find delusional perceptions hilarious. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Really gets into the mind of the player. Every player he faces is his inferior, ever loss to colossus or timings is imbalance/stupid game. So so funny! And totally deadpan. Go IdrA! | ||
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voy
Poland348 Posts
lol  | ||
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karn1
Netherlands75 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:48 Sadistx wrote: I think someone needs a new vocabulary. Here, IdrA, just for you: Main Entry: terrible Definition: bad, horrible Synonyms: abhorrent, appalling, atrocious, awe-inspiring, awesome, awful, beastly, dangerous, desperate, dire, disastrous, disturbing, dread, dreaded, dreadful, extreme, fearful, frightful, ghastly, gruesome, harrowing, hateful, hideous, horrendous, horrid, horrifying, inconvenient, loathsome, monstrous, obnoxious, odious, offensive, petrifying, poor, repulsive, revolting, rotten, serious, severe, shocking, unfortunate, unnerving, unpleasant, unwelcome, vile PS. After posting that i realized he already uses most of those, LOL I rarely hear Idra say "awesome" about his opponent though. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
AFTER ALL THEY ARE SO FUCKING TERRIBLE JUST BAD REALLY BAD lol. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:08 voy wrote: This video is absolutely terrible. You dont know how to make videos. Really, really bad... lol this is the problem with video editing. people are bad at it and still can put together a good video jk of course, it is a good video | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
The video itself is well done, nice work. | ||
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Longsh0t
Canada20 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:55 synapse wrote: Idra playing with the cat... LOL Not having a friendly cat to reduce your ladder rage...just bad... | ||
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Gooey
United States944 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:11 karn1 wrote: I rarely hear Idra say "awesome" about his opponent though. Only about marines and protoss units | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:37 NowLookHere wrote: Hahahaha... no wonder Idra hasn't won anything in forever. He's a mental midget. hahaha so true, with that type of attitude im amazed hes even half as good as he is (wich isnt that good recently) Man hero tore him to pieces this weekend, that was truely inspiring protoss play, i wonder what he was saying in the booth during that game. "Look at this guy attacking me from 4 places at once only terrible imbeciles do that" | ||
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Gustaf
Sweden20 Posts
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Elean
689 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:11 karn1 wrote: I rarely hear Idra say "awesome" about his opponent though. If he recognizes his opponent as good, he will say it just the same. But he doesn't get S-class players often on the NA ladder... One of the main reason Idra's level has been dropping is because he doesn't have access to the korean ladder anymore. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Wins: Terrible, guy cheesed me. Loses: Terrible player, can't play. According to IdrA there are like 3 people in the world who play Starcraft 2 properly. If he saw my replays he would fucking die. Seriously. | ||
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voy
Poland348 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:12 jmbthirteen wrote: this is the problem with video editing. people are bad at it and still can put together a good video jk of course, it is a good video loled. great response ;p | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
cant wait to see him in korea where he'll be against players that know how to play | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
Is it sad that I remember watching so many of those quotes live, and this is almost 10 minute of random segments that I remember? :$ | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:21 iNcontroL wrote: holy shit that was funny LOL Of all people, you should be the least surprised by this. Of ALL people. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:22 cursor wrote: Of all people, you should be the least surprised by this. Of ALL people. Wut, a man can't find his crotchety old friend hilarious? | ||
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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qwazar
Australia45 Posts
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scatmango2
United States408 Posts
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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Zirith
Canada403 Posts
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Superpower
Australia212 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Disquiet
Australia628 Posts
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Qibla
Australia343 Posts
Funny thing is all the top Koreans probably think the same thing about Idra | ||
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Misanthrope
United States924 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Thank for the subs btw !  | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:33 alan25 wrote: Is there anyone Idra actually respects? Think I heard him once saying Fruitdealer? NesTea, Losira, dongraegu, July, Ret, Sheth,, Sen, Coca, Nerchio, Stephano, DIMAGA, and probably even Morrow by now (he respects morrows PvZ style he himself made) Most GSL-level terran except ones like Rain MC, Huk, Naniwa, Kiwikaki, Minigun, Socke, white-ra, Hasuobs, etc | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
I need to watch his stream more often! | ||
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
Sometimes I wish he would start posting here again like in the good old times when he bashed religion and shit. | ||
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JoeJin
United States77 Posts
Best part; "Please stop adding me on skype, cause it makes the game lag...." *blip* *blip* "You're all" *blip* "... Fuckers." | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:39 SafeAsCheese wrote: NesTea, Losira, dongraegu, July, Ret, Sheth,, Sen, Coca, Nerchio, Stephano, DIMAGA, and probably even Morrow by now (he respects morrows PvZ style he himself made) Most GSL-level terran except ones like Rain MC, Huk, Naniwa, Kiwikaki, Minigun, Socke, white-ra, Hasuobs, etc He doesn't respect Huk, he just has to pretend to now that they're on the same team. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:27 Defacer wrote: Wut, a man can't find his crotchety old friend hilarious? LMFAO you said Crotchety. Can you imagine how angry and bitter Idra will be when he is like 50? I'll make sure I don't see any kids running on his lawn, probably have Baneling traps out there. | ||
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LedFarmer
United States161 Posts
He has a piss poor mental attitude and will never be good if this is how he continues to think. I understand this is just random ladder on NA and not Korea but it does show a lot into how he thinks about the game and opponents. Edit: When I am saying good, I mean like Top Tier like IMMvp, IMNestea good, not like EGincontrol good. | ||
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T1Sugar
United Kingdom25 Posts
I think hes a very good player but (stating the obvious) hes his own worst enemy sometimes. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
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lbmaian
United States689 Posts
XD | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:31 SafeAsCheese wrote: TT1 has caused IdrA to dislike all of French Canada xD There's truth in everything IdrA says. French Canadians are, indeed, a little off. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
Still funny as fuck, 8 minutes whilst working well spent I feel ^^ | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:33 alan25 wrote: Is there anyone Idra actually respects? Think I heard him once saying Fruitdealer? Tester and Fruitdealer were his favorite players during the Beta. He's had nothing but nice things to say about Ret, Sen, Sheth ... The reality is that there aren't many great players on the NA ladder. IdrA may be really harsh by calling most of them terrible, but his standards for other players and himself are really high. | ||
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ArhK
France287 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:24 papaz wrote: ROFL i just started this video here at work and can't stop laughing and my co-workers are like "wtf is so funny". I'm sitting here in my suit at work and thinking of how I can explain to my co-workers I am watching a video-game professional guy saying funny stuff about his opponents god I love starcraft 2 and Idra just made my boring monday-workday here at work. Ahahah, exactly this, I am as well sitting, all suit and fanciness, trying not to rofl in my openspace with this video. Idra is fucking terribly awesome . | ||
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Good observations guys ^.^ | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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Sd9
United States26 Posts
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JustinMartin
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:02 0ne wrote: Idra is hilarious. Lol at people saying shit like " he shouldn't trash talk his opponents, he should focus on gettin better" you guys have no sense of humor. its not funny after years of the same shit. He was the same way in BW. And its not funny when it seriously holds him back. | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
i almost died from laughing the entire time i watched the video, pure gold xD | ||
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greendestiny
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
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Gr33d
Germany423 Posts
*Skype sound* *Skype sound* *Skype sound* *Skype sound* "you fuckers" Thanks for the video, realy funny | ||
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
Entertaining though, I guess. | ||
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DarkEnergy
Netherlands542 Posts
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Fox116
United States409 Posts
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Eeeegor
Australia809 Posts
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Ermac
336 Posts
IdrA has a very specific set of skills he appreciates/respects in a player, mostly skills he also possesses himself, and dismisses everything else as 'being awful'. The most ridiculous thing about him is that if he can't read an opponent it automatically means he's bad. Oh and every build that works against him is 'really dumb'. Imho preventing your opponent from getting a good read on you is one of the best things you can do at pro level. There is no such thing as a 'dumb build' if you successfully manage to mislead your opponent. Also his disrespect towards the other two races is really getting old - firmly believing that Zerg is ridiculously underpowered seems to be the only way for IdrA to cope with losing. | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
awful awful awful imbecile. make more please!!!! | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:11 DarkEnergy wrote: no gg no skill really? nice contribution Btw thanks for the compilation i ve seen some of these live, Idra is a very entertaining player to watch and listen to | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
word cloud, genius. saying that make more! | ||
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
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mesred
Germany84 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:30 Ermac wrote: Watched until ~3:30 and I'm not sure if I can bear watching it till the end. Imho this is just sad to the point where it isn't funny anymore. IdrA has a very specific set of skills he appreciates/respects in a player, mostly skills he also possesses himself, and dismisses everything else as 'being awful'. The most ridiculous thing about him is that if he can't read an opponent it automatically means he's bad. Oh and every build that works against him is 'really dumb'. Imho preventing your opponent from getting a good read on you is one of the best things you can do at pro level. There is no such thing as a 'dumb build' if you successfully manage to mislead your opponent. Also his disrespect towards the other two races is really getting old - firmly believing that Zerg is ridiculously underpowered seems to be the only way for IdrA to cope with losing. I see that your icon is an SCV. Only a zerg can understand Idra's frustration. Also why so serious? | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
hookers dog GET jesus | ||
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Ermac
336 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:33 Blaec wrote: I see that your icon is an SCV. Only a zerg can understand Idra's frustration. Also why so serious? Dunno, sometimes it just hits me. | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:30 Ermac wrote: You summed it up perfectly. But we must remember the flipside - regardless of how BM IdrA is, he is an incredibly experienced starcraft player who uses his brains to play. Watched until ~3:30 and I'm not sure if I can bear watching it till the end. Imho this is just sad to the point where it isn't funny anymore. IdrA has a very specific set of skills he appreciates/respects in a player, mostly skills he also possesses himself, and dismisses everything else as 'being awful'. The most ridiculous thing about him is that if he can't read an opponent it automatically means he's bad. Oh and every build that works against him is 'really dumb'. Imho preventing your opponent from getting a good read on you is one of the best things you can do at pro level. There is no such thing as a 'dumb build' if you successfully manage to mislead your opponent. Also his disrespect towards the other two races is really getting old - firmly believing that Zerg is ridiculously underpowered seems to be the only way for IdrA to cope with losing. moral of the story: learn to play as well as IdrA, don't copy his BM. | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:11 DarkEnergy wrote: everytime I see that quote, I have White-Ra in my head speaking it in his awesome accent no gg no skill | ||
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
I play Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag. | ||
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hadang
Germany941 Posts
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tdynasty
Canada220 Posts
That's just stupid... Stupid all in... LoL. That should become glory 1o1. | ||
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kirdie
Germany221 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May I also direct your attention to IdrA's very own fanclub here on TL? | ||
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
then i saw this thank you for the smile | ||
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Ai.Cola
Germany236 Posts
IdrA stream ftw | ||
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qbs
Poland771 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:15 cheesemaster wrote: hahaha so true, with that type of attitude im amazed hes even half as good as he is (wich isnt that good recently) Man hero tore him to pieces this weekend, that was truely inspiring protoss play, i wonder what he was saying in the booth during that game. "Look at this guy attacking me from 4 places at once only terrible imbeciles do that" While I was watching this video I was thinking exactly the same thing. He must have thought trash of Hero. how much money does he get per commercial with 20k viewers? and how does that work anyway? getting paid from just showing an ad? Television works only on ads. | ||
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LoraX
69 Posts
He's so god damn funny | ||
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ViDa.DuTchy
Netherlands7 Posts
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Kvz
United States463 Posts
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
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Truedot
444 Posts
hilarious. | ||
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hatespam
Romania161 Posts
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
Guy is pretty hilarious, just his delivery of everything he says. Slightly off topic but he has lost a lot of hair in a year :o playing sc2 seems to be ageing him terribly. Or he just got a bad haircut... | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
I agree with every single one of his statements. | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
There is nothing as entertaining as IdrA trashtalking everything. Nice vid. | ||
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ARick
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
The guy is being paid to play a game he don't like, against players who aren't good enough for him to learn anything. That end up losing tournaments because lack of good practice for even more frustration. I don't even know how he didn't stop everything already. Money i guess. | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:26 emc wrote: man, idra really hates this game. I feel for him because this is his job and this game can be extremely frustrating, he basically gets paid to be frustrated not something I'd actually enjoy. You know... Idra is probably the kind of guy that gets frustrated about anything in his life. That's not bashing or anything but it's probably true | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
get hammered. | ||
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 19 2011 19:47 Jakkerr wrote: You know... Idra is probably the kind of guy that gets frustrated about anything in his life. That's not bashing or anything but it's probably true lol he seems to have a lot of blunt deadpan humor, especially irl. honestly i'm pretty sure everyone has had the same thoughts and frustrations playing games. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
However he should probably practise somewhere else than NA ladder since he is obviously just stomping bads all day long. | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:08 DwmC_Foefen wrote: I wonder if Idra would win more games if he was playing protoss or terran. Because he's always like "yeah T/P are imba" etc. lol it would still be idra playing sc2. there wouldn't be any change to the imba talk. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:08 DwmC_Foefen wrote: I wonder if Idra would win more games if he was playing protoss or terran. Because he's always like "yeah T/P are imba" etc. Well, he only picked Zerg because Artosis convinced him to. He started out as Protoss, and in fact after playing Terran in BW he said he didn't want to play the hardest race anymore because Terran frustrated him. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
Hope he goes back to Korea soon and starts owning again though. | ||
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sc2guy
291 Posts
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lightrise
United States1355 Posts
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MrStorkie
United Kingdom697 Posts
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LayZRR
Germany449 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Benzzro
Australia167 Posts
So true | ||
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lozarian
United Kingdom1043 Posts
He would be one of the most irritating people to live with, but quite good fun to go someones house where he lived, I think. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
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ssartor
United States129 Posts
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On September 19 2011 20:08 DwmC_Foefen wrote: I wonder if Idra would win more games if he was playing protoss or terran. Because he's always like "yeah T/P are imba" etc. Just look at the early beta when he was protoss. | ||
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PDizzle
Denmark1754 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
anyways, looking forward to see him back in action in Korea in near future, hopefully he'll reconsider his plans of not participating in the gsl. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Sounds like he really really really doesnt like SC2 or just about anyone who plays it. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
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Leach
United States536 Posts
On September 19 2011 21:04 Technique wrote: Just look at the early beta when he was protoss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sry8CTOmyI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2F_j3--6BY you can't honestly belief that those two videos are meaningful , much less prove anything.... | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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hYrasD
Germany164 Posts
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
On September 19 2011 21:34 Roggay wrote: This is so illarious ahahah! no, this is so silly. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
<3 IdrA | ||
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ticktack
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
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Neeh
Norway458 Posts
Good compilation all in all. | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
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LeGeNDz
60 Posts
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
Oh, thanks for including the coughs and breaking my ears, again. | ||
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viii
United States266 Posts
"My dog is looking at me with utter anguish and loneliness" :> | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44110 Posts
I love his BM ♥ This should go in his Fan Club! | ||
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FireFish
Denmark228 Posts
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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graan
Germany589 Posts
On September 19 2011 21:27 Leach wrote: you can't honestly belief that those two videos are meaningful , much less prove anything.... think his point of posting these is that idra would flame about imbalance not depending which race he plays, rather then he would suck at protos or anything like that.. | ||
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
More easy to flame on others eh. | ||
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
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spiksel
Netherlands97 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
I guess everyone is fucking terrible and an idiot. Protoss is also op. | ||
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Lynda
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Thrill
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Grettin
42381 Posts
I don't know when i laughed so hard. Great compilation, love idra! | ||
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GGPope
Australia367 Posts
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kopi
Australia17 Posts
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Macabre
United States1262 Posts
edit -- You're all fuckers. | ||
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McBrungus
United States265 Posts
On September 19 2011 21:04 Technique wrote: Just look at the early beta when he was protoss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sry8CTOmyI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2F_j3--6BY I mean, those are one supply roaches in the one video, and people lose to 6 pool sometimes, especially when randoms do crap like that. I'm with you on the idea that I don't think he would be doing any better as another race, but I don't see how anything from the beta has anything to do with anything at this point in the game. | ||
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ManOnBoy
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"thats our guard dog... she weighs 5 pounds." bam! hahahahahah | ||
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Mord
Norway171 Posts
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Snidgel
Sweden54 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
On September 19 2011 22:48 CoR wrote: did he EVER say another play is GOOD ? zvz is shit matchup rest are imba z is worst but other zergs sucks etc i never saw him say someone rly good and deserved to win cause of SKILL cause he thinks he is the BEST and thats makes him unsympatic ... he never can even IMAGINE someone could be better then him That's the point. He's funny because he's delusional (if the other players played as they should, he would win, and if the do in fact play a macro game, it's imbalance.) | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On September 19 2011 21:27 Leach wrote: you can't honestly belief that those two videos are meaningful , much less prove anything.... Well i think he would not have problems saying zerg is ridiculous aka if he played p he would just say z/t are trash and if he played t then p/z would be trash... | ||
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
idra is idra, nothing we say will change that so enjoy him for who he is. embrace the gracken. | ||
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cmen15
United States1519 Posts
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Maffe
Sweden133 Posts
"This is making him sad" "This is making him very sad." "This is making him even sadder than before. That's sad" Or something. Thanks for the upload. | ||
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Qntc.YuMe
United States792 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51472 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:15 cheesemaster wrote: hahaha so true, with that type of attitude im amazed hes even half as good as he is (wich isnt that good recently) Man hero tore him to pieces this weekend, that was truely inspiring protoss play, i wonder what he was saying in the booth during that game. "Look at this guy attacking me from 4 places at once only terrible imbeciles do that" You sir are terrible.... He would of been saying, man this is the reason NA Ladder sucks, whens the last time i had a decent game vs a protos who actually understand the game and can do more than just A Move me with his army, Hero beat him with multi tasking which Idra did MATCH but what he didnt match was the ability to harass back or to do anything to Heros economy thus losing pretty badly. To say calling players on NA GM server idiots/terrible/fucking awful has nothing to do with him losing a game in a tournament....and if you think it does you need to open your eyes and listen to when he says "i ladder for stream money" and uses practice partners to actually practice. Like Major vs ZvTs etc. | ||
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Alvis
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
And the video had a lot of funny moments! But these days I kind of just feel sick after 15 minutes of watching his stream. Too much unabated negativity. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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OliverDONG
Canada151 Posts
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Papulatus
United States669 Posts
Its such an honor to be BM'ed by IdrA. In all seriousness I played like shit that game >.> | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On September 19 2011 23:04 DreamRaider wrote: lol i wanna hear his reaction to this "Terrible editing. Damn this guy is awful" | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On September 19 2011 23:06 Pandemona wrote: You sir are terrible.... He would of been saying, man this is the reason NA Ladder sucks, whens the last time i had a decent game vs a protos who actually understand the game and can do more than just A Move me with his army, Hero beat him with multi tasking which Idra did MATCH but what he didnt match was the ability to harass back or to do anything to Heros economy thus losing pretty badly. To say calling players on NA GM server idiots/terrible/fucking awful has nothing to do with him losing a game in a tournament....and if you think it does you need to open your eyes and listen to when he says "i ladder for stream money" and uses practice partners to actually practice. Like Major vs ZvTs etc. Yeah when he says a player is terrible most of the times this player is really terrible ( random NA players, TT1, Minigun...). You are not gonna hear him talking shit about Hero because he knows he lost legit games vs him. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On September 19 2011 22:50 EmilA wrote: That's the point. He's funny because he's delusional (if the other players played as they should, he would win, and if the do in fact play a macro game, it's imbalance.) Ok let's be fair here. Idra does/did aknowledge a few players as good, like Ret, and he always says Koreans are way better then anyone, and always predicts the top koreans to win the MLGs and other stuff. About the matchups, that Idra says T and P are imba and ZvZ is stupid. Ok, he did say those things for sure, but some streamed trashtalk after a loss is not the same as the opinion he generally has. He was asked the question is ZvZ stupid? And he said, no, it takes a lot of skill. Obviously it is a mirror matchup and even if you are good at it sometimes you get rolled because of buildored disadvantage or unlucky scouting or a strange new allin build which is bad vs most things and happens to be good vs what you do right then. I think pretty much everybody is in a bit of love-hate relationship with his mirror matchup even if he's good at it. About terran, yeah he says it's imba, but i dont think he's even the most vocal about Terran being OP, Idra said many times he kinda likes ZvT. About ZvP, yeah he states repedaetly is a silly/imbalanced/stupid matchup, and it's stupid that a Protoss can sit back and go for a deathball every single game and have a very good win% with it. + the countless allins. SO yeah, he hates protosses But i'm not his lawyer so please dont pick at me for it, just my 2 cents | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Joke | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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Reere
Taiwan127 Posts
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Teim
Australia373 Posts
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Bro_Stone
United States510 Posts
LOLOLOL, ohhhh IdrA :D | ||
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Talic_Zealot
688 Posts
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
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Ripper41
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CDMVR
United States92 Posts
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shaaw
Spain97 Posts
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Darkzler
Sweden58 Posts
Would be nice to se him manner up against the really good players out there instead of bitching about how strong the protoss units are etc ;p | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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Mictoman
Norway42 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On September 19 2011 23:20 0ne wrote: Yeah when he says a player is terrible most of the times this player is really terrible ( random NA players, TT1, Minigun...). You are not gonna hear him talking shit about Hero because he knows he lost legit games vs him. The problem with this is though that it's a horrible mentality to have. It dismisses all of his own faults and blames it all on imbalance or the opponent doing something 'stupid' that completely catches him offguard. If he could stop having this mentality, that alone could I think help his play tremendously*, since admitting and facing your faults/mistakes makes you improve them a lot faster. *That being said that would kinda be like trying to change the sky from being blue. But yer, nice video, made me laugh everytime he went "ohh this guy's so bad! *idra has left the game*" | ||
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Von
United States363 Posts
But this vid actually just made me kind of like the kid | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51472 Posts
On September 19 2011 23:46 Zarahtra wrote: The problem with this is though that it's a horrible mentality to have. It dismisses all of his own faults and blames it all on imbalance or the opponent doing something 'stupid' that completely catches him offguard. If he could stop having this mentality, that alone could I think help his play tremendously*, since admitting and facing your faults/mistakes makes you improve them a lot faster. *That being said that would kinda be like trying to change the sky from being blue. But yer, nice video, made me laugh everytime he went "ohh this guy's so bad! *idra has left the game*" Well you say its "him" and if he admitted his faults...But all idra does is greedily drone up? The idea of this game is to get a solid economy going so you can produce as many units as you possible can, and to attack with some units to scout your opponent and do good trades (losings lings to kill 4/5 stalkers or probes) but when people are just bunkering rushing you or 6 gate all in or some crazy stuff from 1 or maybe 2 bases on minimal economy. Plus when you come from training in Korea for most of your RTS life you notice a huge gap in skill level and mechanics? Like what Naniwa is finding out about in Korea at the moment, what HuKs experiencing and how good he has become. Korea has always been the meccah of E-Sports and the base level of the game, to see someone who is already anti cheese to play against people who just not even played SC1 must annoy him (like minigun who came from an FPS background...) | ||
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Airstrike
United Kingdom50 Posts
"Assuming he reacts intelligently...... which is not something you should assume with TT1" More please! | ||
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JelleSlaets
Belgium57 Posts
He's French-Canadian, so he's gonna do fast-expand into stupid zealot timing into something else gay. lol If he's like that in real life, having conversations with him is either hilarious or very depressing. | ||
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SeeDLiNg
United States690 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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UkGracken
United Kingdom129 Posts
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rEdEEmEd
Canada68 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
*proceeds to bitch forever* Oh, Idra. | ||
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Sliver
United States402 Posts
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Drankme
Denmark23 Posts
Sad. | ||
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leser
Croatia239 Posts
idra <3 | ||
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Ashes
United States362 Posts
Edit: P.S: In a good way | ||
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
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Lamphead
Canada241 Posts
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
Sorry, had to get that out. It is unbelievable that, regardless of how good his mechanics are, any company would be willing to sponsor such a whiny, self-entitled, elitist, human. But hey any publicity is good publicity right? As much as I enjoy HuK, iNcontroL, and Demuslim, I cannot ever support EG. | ||
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BobbyBrown
New Zealand62 Posts
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
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jambOng
United States86 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6258 Posts
Great video! | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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ffdestiny
United States773 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:28 HotShizz wrote: + Show Spoiler + Okay... So... that was a very well edited video, and I know that Idra pulls 10K+ viewers every time he streams, but... how can anyone stand to be around or listen to someone so elitist and hate filled who obviously hates his job, yet refuses to go find something in life to make him happy. I mean, if it's that bad, just quit. No one is forcing you to be playing SC2 and if you don't want to, then don't, however, if you do want to, stop whining and make the most out of whatever time you give it. You go around and say everyone is bad and do, apparently nothing but insult and complain. My guess is that attitude is the reason idra and all of team evil geniuses is under performing. You go anywhere with such a goddamned awful attitude, you ought to expect to get shit on by everyone and everything around you. You reap what you sow. So I am sorry idra fans, but inject a little bit of a positive attitude into your lives, and see the difference it makes in yourself and those around you when you do more than sit on your high throne and bitch about how unfair and unbalanced life is. Sorry, had to get that out. It is unbelievable that, regardless of how good his mechanics are, any company would be willing to sponsor such a whiny, self-entitled, elitist, human. But hey any publicity is good publicity right? As much as I enjoy HuK, iNcontroL, and Demuslim, I cannot ever support EG. Obvious troll is obvious. I'll bite. It's Idra's schtick to act like a pretentious megalomaniac. And most of what he says is the actual truth. The NA ladder offers very little competition for him. It's filled with a bunch of one/two-basers, all-iners and cheesers who don't know how to play a real game. Granted, the Korean ladder is similar, except for the fact that Koreans do the builds correctly for the most part. They also don't have as terrible of macro or micro like most of those NA players we watched in the video. It's also very relevant that Protoss units are imbalanced situationally in PvZ and it's well known. | ||
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:28 HotShizz wrote: Okay... So... that was a very well edited video, and I know that Idra pulls 10K+ viewers every time he streams, but... how can anyone stand to be around or listen to someone so elitist and hate filled who obviously hates his job, yet refuses to go find something in life to make him happy. I mean, if it's that bad, just quit. No one is forcing you to be playing SC2 and if you don't want to, then don't, however, if you do want to, stop whining and make the most out of whatever time you give it. You go around and say everyone is bad and do, apparently nothing but insult and complain. My guess is that attitude is the reason idra and all of team evil geniuses is under performing. You go anywhere with such a goddamned awful attitude, you ought to expect to get shit on by everyone and everything around you. You reap what you sow. So I am sorry idra fans, but inject a little bit of a positive attitude into your lives, and see the difference it makes in yourself and those around you when you do more than sit on your high throne and bitch about how unfair and unbalanced life is. Sorry, had to get that out. It is unbelievable that, regardless of how good his mechanics are, any company would be willing to sponsor such a whiny, self-entitled, elitist, human. But hey any publicity is good publicity right? As much as I enjoy HuK, iNcontroL, and Demuslim, I cannot ever support EG. A lot of people are doing stuff they don't like for a living. He gets a lot of money doing what he does. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32046 Posts
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:41 butchji wrote: A lot of people are doing stuff they don't like for a living. He gets a lot of money doing what he does. He obviously doesn't hate his job. He's just venting. | ||
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
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R3N
740 Posts
as you do know idra is doing us so we all can laugh, right? Sure he's generally trash talker, cocky and dry and all that but when he streams he's just trying to be funny. And it works :D | ||
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Lucid_Interval
United States31 Posts
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BerenSC
Czech Republic28 Posts
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Chernobyl
Brazil143 Posts
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:43 how2TL wrote: He obviously doesn't hate his job. He's just venting. He stated several times that he likes the traveling part and the competitiveness of eSports but doesn't like StarCraft2 at all though. By playing the game he loves (BroodWar) he wouldn't be able to live that kind of lifestyle because it is dead outside of Korea. He had enough of the tough practice schedule in Korean progaming and wouldn't be anywhere near the top players there anyway. | ||
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Somnolence
Lithuania127 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:48 BerenSC wrote: Showing nothing but disrespect for other pro-players [and I dont mean some random guys from masters and grandmasters, but players like TT1, drewbie and so on..] deserves nothing more than disrespect right? According to most of the posts here apparently not.. It is unwise to trash talk other pro-gamers when your team can hire them in the future as it happened with Huk. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:53 Somnolence wrote: It is unwise to trash talk other pro-gamers when your team can hire them in the future as it happened with Huk. Huk and idra are apparently pretty good friends though | ||
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:40 ffdestiny wrote: Obvious troll is obvious. I'll bite. It's Idra's schtick to act like a pretentious megalomaniac. And most of what he says is the actual truth. The NA ladder offers very little competition for him. It's filled with a bunch of one/two-basers, all-iners and cheesers who don't know how to play a real game. Granted, the Korean ladder is similar, except for the fact that Koreans do the builds correctly for the most part. They also don't have as terrible of macro or micro like most of those NA players we watched in the video. It's also very relevant that Protoss units are imbalanced situationally in PvZ and it's well known. I'm really not trying to troll. I don't think that balance or skill of your opponents should ever have anything to do with your own mental attitude. It's just sad to see someone who has a lot of talent waste it by bitching about balance rather than theory crafting. Brood War was around for twelve years, this game has been around for one and is still changing. Not nearly everything that can be done has been. So rather than complain, be proactive. I had a job for years I hated, I quit that to work worse hours for about half the pay, but I took that positive attitude and applied it to other areas of my life to work for something bigger, rather than complain about what I have. I know it's his schtick, and it's why he's popular, but this is what he is doing for a living. Love it or quit, just lose the attitude. | ||
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Hybris
United States185 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:28 HotShizz wrote: Okay... So... that was a very well edited video, and I know that Idra pulls 10K+ viewers every time he streams, but... how can anyone stand to be around or listen to someone so elitist and hate filled who obviously hates his job, yet refuses to go find something in life to make him happy. I mean, if it's that bad, just quit. No one is forcing you to be playing SC2 and if you don't want to, then don't, however, if you do want to, stop whining and make the most out of whatever time you give it. You go around and say everyone is bad and do, apparently nothing but insult and complain. My guess is that attitude is the reason idra and all of team evil geniuses is under performing. You go anywhere with such a goddamned awful attitude, you ought to expect to get shit on by everyone and everything around you. You reap what you sow. So I am sorry idra fans, but inject a little bit of a positive attitude into your lives, and see the difference it makes in yourself and those around you when you do more than sit on your high throne and bitch about how unfair and unbalanced life is. Sorry, had to get that out. It is unbelievable that, regardless of how good his mechanics are, any company would be willing to sponsor such a whiny, self-entitled, elitist, human. But hey any publicity is good publicity right? As much as I enjoy HuK, iNcontroL, and Demuslim, I cannot ever support EG. Don't try to post anti idra comments in an idra fanboy thread. The swarm will eat you alive. Btw I agree with you 100%. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:53 Somnolence wrote: It is unwise to trash talk other pro-gamers when your team can hire them in the future as it happened with Huk. a lot of trash talking between guy friends is just how they get along | ||
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
If Idra loses to a Korean or someone he respects, he doesn't vent at the race as much if he plays a macro game. Notice he has hatred for BW players who were terrible compared to him but are doing well in SC2 (Mana, Drewbie). Imagine yourself as a 4x4 rubix cube specialist, but suddenly, only 3x3 rubix cube tournaments are around, and people who were clearly awful at 4x4 started winning, you would feel extremely bad as well. I think Idra feels similarly, because someone of his skill in SC1 wouldn't drop a game to any of those NA ladder noobs on iccup. | ||
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Koorb
France266 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:09 Cognizance wrote: I've always admired IdrA for his ability to create humorous comments through his dry, deadpan delivery of his statements. I hope that this video was able to capture some of those moments. Sorry for the low quality at the beginning. It improves fast. Footage taken from IdrA's stream at the EG house, the week before Dreamhack Valencia. Hello, did you allow Millenium.org to use your video ? Because if you didn't, you should know that they uploaded it on their Dailymotion channel, and display it without even mentioning you, just so they could collect the ads money with your work... Your video on their DM channel and on their website | ||
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:48 BerenSC wrote: Showing nothing but disrespect for other pro-players [and I dont mean some random guys from masters and grandmasters, but players like TT1, drewbie and so on..] deserves nothing more than disrespect right? According to most of the posts here apparently not.. IdrA respects really good players (He's not insulting MC when he's losing to him). To him, Drewbie or TT1 are not good players, even if they are for you. Simple as that | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:11 Fatalize wrote: IdrA respects really good players (He's not insulting MC when he's losing to him). To him, Drewbie or TT1 are not good players, even if they are for you. Simple as that as long as his fans don't blindly share his vision, I guess it's ok esp since most of it is kind of an act and just venting | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
lol jk well done, <3 Idra | ||
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
pls meme this | ||
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:09 Koorb wrote: Hello, did you allow Millenium.org to use your video ? Because if you didn't, you should know that they uploaded it on their Dailymotion channel, and display it without even mentioning you, just so they could collect the ads money with your work... Your video on their DM channel and on their website Please keep highlighting this for the OP. Also, excellent video, made me laugh. | ||
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Philo
United States337 Posts
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:16 ReignFayth wrote: as long as his fans don't blindly share his vision, I guess it's ok esp since most of it is kind of an act and just venting many players talk trash, to TT1 Julyzerg is trash | ||
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Dayvx
Sweden92 Posts
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Soulforged
Latvia917 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:08 Micket wrote: I think all the hatred of all races is a culmination of the fact you don't need to do something particularly skillful to take a game off the pros if they are not playing Terran (90%+ winrate guys are ALWAYS Terran). Idra was someone who put his life and soul into being the best at BW where there was a 0% chance for him to lose to a C+ player, being mechanically brilliant with amazing multitask and refined builds. Now, in Starcraft 2, pros lose games to people of equivalent skill of C on iccup and thus it is frustrating for people like Idra who had it sooo hard in the BW days. If Idra loses to a Korean or someone he respects, he doesn't vent at the race as much if he plays a macro game. Notice he has hatred for BW players who were terrible compared to him but are doing well in SC2 (Mana, Drewbie). Imagine yourself as a 4x4 rubix cube specialist, but suddenly, only 3x3 rubix cube tournaments are around, and people who were clearly awful at 4x4 started winning, you would feel extremely bad as well. I think Idra feels similarly, because someone of his skill in SC1 wouldn't drop a game to any of those NA ladder noobs on iccup. This. Idra is often found criticizing his own play, or respecting S-class opponents beating him without ridiculous risk-taking. From Idra's perspective, he's dropping games that he shouldn't to players who put in much less work than he does. Moreover, he's getting constantly allined on ladder, and those allins are not polished; thus you cannot make definitive reads on them, you can only play the guessing game in a way that'd give you a good long term win rate. Except that you don't want to have 65% win rate against an amateur who worked on his "creative" suboptimal allin for two days, you want 90%+. However, lately Idra's indeed going way over the top with his comments. Half of the time he does it on podcasts, Incontrol's trolling him about it, and I'd have to say he has a point there. | ||
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fuzzayy
United States99 Posts
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:08 Micket wrote: I think all the hatred of all races is a culmination of the fact you don't need to do something particularly skillful to take a game off the pros if they are not playing Terran (90%+ winrate guys are ALWAYS Terran). Idra was someone who put his life and soul into being the best at BW where there was a 0% chance for him to lose to a C+ player, being mechanically brilliant with amazing multitask and refined builds. Now, in Starcraft 2, pros lose games to people of equivalent skill of C on iccup and thus it is frustrating for people like Idra who had it sooo hard in the BW days. If Idra loses to a Korean or someone he respects, he doesn't vent at the race as much if he plays a macro game. Notice he has hatred for BW players who were terrible compared to him but are doing well in SC2 (Mana, Drewbie). Imagine yourself as a 4x4 rubix cube specialist, but suddenly, only 3x3 rubix cube tournaments are around, and people who were clearly awful at 4x4 started winning, you would feel extremely bad as well. I think Idra feels similarly, because someone of his skill in SC1 wouldn't drop a game to any of those NA ladder noobs on iccup. But the likes of Nestea and DRG can solve the said 3x3 cube in less than half the time. Idra would probably spend the first 5 seconds fumbling around before throwing it into the bin, while muttering "This is awful." You can't expect yourself to be taken seriously if you're playing a different game while applying the same set of principles to it and expect everyone else to adhere to it and judge others by the same standards. That being said, I'd guess that Idra's commentary was more for entertainment than anything else. | ||
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Muffinman53
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Yuis
Canada134 Posts
He is actually pretty entertaining to watch xD | ||
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VPCursed
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
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ThreeActPlay
United States249 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
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Dilheisha
Canada55 Posts
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Calm
Canada380 Posts
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Shai
Canada806 Posts
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50mineral
Hungary43 Posts
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lotny
Poland154 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On September 19 2011 18:30 Ermac wrote: Watched until ~3:30 and I'm not sure if I can bear watching it till the end. Imho this is just sad to the point where it isn't funny anymore. IdrA has a very specific set of skills he appreciates/respects in a player, mostly skills he also possesses himself, and dismisses everything else as 'being awful'. The most ridiculous thing about him is that if he can't read an opponent it automatically means he's bad. Oh and every build that works against him is 'really dumb'. Imho preventing your opponent from getting a good read on you is one of the best things you can do at pro level. There is no such thing as a 'dumb build' if you successfully manage to mislead your opponent. Also his disrespect towards the other two races is really getting old - firmly believing that Zerg is ridiculously underpowered seems to be the only way for IdrA to cope with losing. Yup yup. This quote from Rekrul to Idra from a couple years back says all about Idra's mindset: HEY MY OPPONENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND I KNEW HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT SO I DID EXACTLY WHAT BEATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO BUT HE'S DUMB AND DIDN'T DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO COUNTER EASILY. ... and it's still the same damn problem he has today.No Idra, he did what won. If he was dumb he would have done exactly what you wanted him to do...lol. After all this time in Korea you've only learned standard builds and haven't even opened your mind up at all? [...] Get a grip, you weren't aware of what was going on that game and took your situation for granted, and you lost. You lost because you were fucking dumb. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Hilarious to see it all in a row. He doesn't swear that much, 8 minutes out of 20 hours streaming. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:39 Eknoid4 wrote: he's not being humorous 90% of the time. he's actually whining. i never understood why people are so incapable of understanding or admitting that fact. I think most people know that, which is what is entertaining | ||
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JayLay
United States13 Posts
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Merany
France890 Posts
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
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Steveplayshorn
United States36 Posts
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
go check out idras record on the grandmaster ladder and compare it to everyone elses. Thanks! | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Soulriser
United States192 Posts
"please stop adding me on skype" *bing* ..*bing* ..*bing* "you guys are all fuckers" XD | ||
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Mista_Masta
Netherlands557 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:12 Lumi wrote: so funny to read these armchair psychologists saying idra isn't as good as he thinks he is and how his opinions about others gameplay are probably wrong since he's losing go check out idras record on the grandmaster ladder and compare it to everyone elses. Thanks! his record is not impressive at all | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Project Psycho
United Kingdom329 Posts
Lose = They are really bad and the game is retarded | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:12 Lumi wrote: so funny to read these armchair psychologists saying idra isn't as good as he thinks he is and how his opinions about others gameplay are probably wrong since he's losing go check out idras record on the grandmaster ladder and compare it to everyone elses. Thanks! NA grandmaster ladder record is not the way to measure skill... | ||
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:20 PassiveAce wrote: For people who havnt already, this thread is worth reading http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 That is pretty weird attitude since T>Z in bw. | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
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Yuriegh
United States327 Posts
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Mortal
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
This one had me laughing pretty good haha: "He's french canadian so he's gonna do a fast-expand into stupid zealot timing into something else gay" | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
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lizzard_warish
589 Posts
Of course you should still blame idra for failing to scout them. And a lot of the time thats not what is really happening, the guy just didnt do a style idra is fond of, or...isnt playing zerg, so therefore idra rages. | ||
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:22 sekritzzz wrote: NA grandmaster ladder record is not the way to measure skill... Good thing I didn't say that it was.. but he's playing other people on NA grandmaster ladder and look how poorly they do compared to him. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:31 lizzard_warish wrote: I'll say this: It's obviously possible for unintelligent people to get high masters or grandmasters, and as a result do entirely nonsensical builds that are, really, retarded. I dont mean quirky builds that abuse the metagame, or odd unit compositions, but literally nonsensical actions. Consistently doing the decision which, if in any way scouted, would destroy the advantage you previously built up. These DO happen on Idras stream frequently, and so a lot of his comments are just plain and simply right. Of course you should still blame idra for failing to scout them. And a lot of the time thats not what is really happening, the guy just didnt do a style idra is fond of, or...isnt playing zerg, so therefore idra rages. Assuming how intelligent somebody is based on his Starcraft strategies... is not very intelligent. | ||
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:12 Lumi wrote: so funny to read these armchair psychologists saying idra isn't as good as he thinks he is and how his opinions about others gameplay are probably wrong since he's losing go check out idras record on the grandmaster ladder and compare it to everyone elses. Thanks! he only got 73% win/lose ration on a very weak ladder while playing over 500 games thats not very good. Compare him to some other zergs: Stephano 82% on the EU ladder Nerchio 79% on the EU ladder Also look at Demuslim record 83% in NA he used to have 70% in the EU ladder. Its not looking good for idra tbh | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:31 lizzard_warish wrote: I'll say this: It's obviously possible for unintelligent people to get high masters or grandmasters, and as a result do entirely nonsensical builds that are, really, retarded. I dont mean quirky builds that abuse the metagame, or odd unit compositions, but literally nonsensical actions. Consistently doing the decision which, if in any way scouted, would destroy the advantage you previously built up. These DO happen on Idras stream frequently, and so a lot of his comments are just plain and simply right. Of course you should still blame idra for failing to scout them. And a lot of the time thats not what is really happening, the guy just didnt do a style idra is fond of, or...isnt playing zerg, so therefore idra rages. At the same time being able to do unpredictable things is often a hallmark of champions, and it's something IdrA lacks. MVP did a bunker wall-off block vs Nestea because in competition everything goes but I bet IdrA's reaction to something like that would just be "bullshit cheese". If you really want to be the best you can't just shrug losses off and keep thinking you're actually better than everyone. | ||
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paksam
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spacer
Netherlands2786 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On September 19 2011 17:33 alan25 wrote: Is there anyone Idra actually respects? Think I heard him once saying Fruitdealer? I'm pretty sure he respects TBLS a lot. Like A LOT. I really love this fed up, depressed and bored tone of his voice. Makes it even more "cooler". | ||
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:40 spacer wrote: Because he's really funny and has an attitude?How can anyone be a fan of this guy and support him? I really wonder | ||
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koppik
United States676 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:36 Lunas wrote: Also look at Demuslim record 83% in NA he used to have 70% in the EU ladder. Its not looking good for idra tbh I think Demuslim just has improved a lot. For instance, Demuslim has played 122 games this season on the EU ladder and has an 83% winrate there, only a few tenths of percentage points below his NA winrate. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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kanadiasteve
United States313 Posts
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cavalier117
United States430 Posts
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
If protoss and zerg every get better defensive capabilities then you'll see the pros winning more consistantly, would separate the great from the good. Btw, any vid with IdrA in it I love, I don't care. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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bebe01
Korea (South)512 Posts
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
"This guy is just awful" x20 | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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ScoutingDrone
Canada54 Posts
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uMay
Canada3 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:54 Rekrul wrote: LOLOLOL nice This thread made me think of you. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
"Oh he beat me he's a fucking retard" - Every ladder noob gets bashed hard in the SC2 community for shit like that, its lack of respect and pure BM. But Idra, oooh he's famous for the bullshit he talks, why not! He's so "good" that he can bash players he lost to. Jesus... I'll stop at this, I felt remorse and pity for him, along with dislike (dont hate the guy never met him, sure as hell wouldnt like him tho) and i dont see how or why any of you find it amusing, funny or think he's a good guy. | ||
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BerenSC
Czech Republic28 Posts
On September 20 2011 01:11 Fatalize wrote: IdrA respects really good players (He's not insulting MC when he's losing to him). To him, Drewbie or TT1 are not good players, even if they are for you. Simple as that Bullshit he did insult MC after MLG so dont try cover for him. I dont care if he thinks that they are not good players, because most of the players that he is talking shit about, did beat him in tournaments. | ||
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charliewinsmore
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Harrad
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Vandroy
Sweden155 Posts
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50mineral
Hungary43 Posts
On September 20 2011 02:31 lizzard_warish wrote: I'll say this: It's obviously possible for unintelligent people to get high masters or grandmasters, and as a result do entirely nonsensical builds that are, really, retarded. I dont mean quirky builds that abuse the metagame, or odd unit compositions, but literally nonsensical actions. Consistently doing the decision which, if in any way scouted, would destroy the advantage you previously built up. These DO happen on Idras stream frequently, and so a lot of his comments are just plain and simply right. Of course you should still blame idra for failing to scout them. And a lot of the time thats not what is really happening, the guy just didnt do a style idra is fond of, or...isnt playing zerg, so therefore idra rages. oh yeah just like in poker..... "if this would be a higher stakes games id beat anyone, bc reasonable thinking players playing there... but these lowstakes fishes just unpredictable and sucking out on me everytime!!!!!" nah that just an exuse to cover up reality for the sore loser ego monkeys, works kind of like a mental loophole, but in fact they dont posses the skills what would earn enough money to them to step up to higher stakes. applies for starcraft to some degree aswell. if you are used to super high quality tournament play, but eventually laddering on the NA server, you may go ahead in the metagame and expect the opponents not making the best decision all the time. ultimately, something most people forget, just because youre better than someone in 1v1 you still not supposed to obtain 100% winrate outright. you supposed to win more times than losing against him, obviously as skill differs you can get close to 100% at some point, but that would mean you just pwning noobs all the time and avoiding challenges. | ||
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ManaO
Italy185 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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wuBu
United States83 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 20 2011 03:15 BerenSC wrote: Bullshit he did insult MC after MLG so dont try cover for him. I dont care if he thinks that they are not good players, because most of the players that he is talking shit about, did beat him in tournaments. So if someone beats you once in a tourney, ever, it's not okay to openly dislike them or their play? hahahaha. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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DrunkeN.
United States406 Posts
On September 20 2011 03:58 Tsuki.eu wrote: not sure why ppl think this is funny. Not sure how you think this isn't funny. Hahaha great video. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
And im pretty sure this should just be posted in his fan club page, dont see why he needs 4000 threads about his bad attitude. | ||
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 20 2011 03:44 KimJongChill wrote: Why does he say Guy so often? because he has to say 'this guy is so bad' so often obv | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:01 DrunkeN. wrote: Not sure how you think this isn't funny. Hahaha great video. Some people are past the age where seeing a guy call people retards is still funny. | ||
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Randomaccount#128098
United States411 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:11 Valenius wrote: Some people are past the age where seeing a guy call people retards is still funny. Some people are past the age of commenting on things they clearly don't enjoy, instead of just moving on to something else. Video was clearly made to be light hearted. It's a dude playing a game while venting about his opponents. If that strikes you as odd for an SC player then I don't know what to tell you. My personal favorite quote "I love it when someone does something stupid and it makes me look smart" Everyone can identify with that feeling. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:14 Lomak wrote: Some people are past the age of commenting on things they clearly don't enjoy, instead of just moving on to something else. Video was clearly made to be light hearted. I'm giving the guy a reason as to why some people may not like the video. | ||
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Juanald
United States354 Posts
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DrunkeN.
United States406 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:11 Valenius wrote: Some people are past the age where seeing a guy call people retards is still funny. lol I feel sry for you sir. The day I stop laughing is the day I die. BTW in the movie Tropic Thunder the full retard bit is by far one of the funniest scenes. | ||
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Genie1
Canada333 Posts
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imEnex
Canada500 Posts
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b0ub0u
Canada445 Posts
I am french Canadian.. but still find this funny somehow =) | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
On September 20 2011 03:15 BerenSC wrote: Bullshit he did insult MC after MLG so dont try cover for him. I dont care if he thinks that they are not good players, because most of the players that he is talking shit about, did beat him in tournaments. Wait, when? I hadn't heard that. Funny video. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:19 DrunkeN. wrote: lol I feel sry for you sir. The day I stop laughing is the day I die. BTW in the movie Tropic Thunder the full retard bit is by far one of the funniest scenes. Where in any of that sentence did I say I've stopped laughing? I said some people grow past the age where finding a stream of insults to be amusing. Some people don't, and I have no problem with that. The wide range of comedy shows and styles out there is testament to that. I'm providing the original guy I quoted with a possible explanation to; "Not sure how you think this isn't funny." Nothing more. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:18 Juanald wrote: i hope when i go pro noone makes any cruel videos like this about me. you should be ashamed of yourself really grow up I'm pretty sure Idra knows exactly what his public image is and I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a fuck. If he did, he'd try to change. He hasn't, doesn't, and won't, and that's what makes him who he is. I think this vid is hilarious and having a guy like Idra in SC makes the scene hilarious; especially considering how good he is despite being bm | ||
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waffleduck
125 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:22 Valenius wrote: Where in any of that sentence did I say I've stopped laughing? I said some people grow past the age where finding a stream of insults to be amusing. Some people don't, and I have no problem with that. The wide range of comedy shows and styles out there is testament to that. I'm providing the original guy I quoted with a possible explanation to; "Not sure how you think this isn't funny." Nothing more. Well actually you were being a condescending douche bag, but what you said works too I guess. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:21 pt wrote: Nice one Make a compilation of idra defending all ins on ladder! That'd be sick!Just watch his stream. It's rare that people actually go for a macro game against him. | ||
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Champ24
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
"hookers. oh and if you're our sponser we don't actually get hookers and blow. just humor." | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Was hilarious nonetheless, great stuff! | ||
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Josealtron
United States219 Posts
This video kicks ass | ||
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DueSs
United States765 Posts
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DuckS
United States845 Posts
"fucking retards who can't play the game right" (regardless of winning or losing) | ||
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ImGonnaRideYou
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
The dude just lets his stream of consciousness go while he plays. Yours would sound the same too. You would swear every time you waste a baneling or get dropped. Jeez, people get so polarized over nothing. | ||
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Hodgy
United States64 Posts
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:45 ImGonnaRideYou wrote: What you want is for the people to laugh with you, not laugh at you. (Don't know about you guys, but I was laughing at, not with.). And if he thinks this way about some of the best NA players (ie. retards), imagine how he thinks of you personally, if you are his fan. I am laughing with and at him, he´s a funny guy. Almost everyone that really knows him say hes a really nice guy hang with so I don't really get worked up how he talks on his stream. | ||
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DueSs
United States765 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:45 ImGonnaRideYou wrote: What you want is for the people to laugh with you, not laugh at you. (Don't know about you guys, but I was laughing at, not with.). And if he thinks this way about some of the best NA players (ie. retards), imagine how he thinks of you personally, if you are his fan. But I disagree. What he wants, I think, is to be wildly popular (streaming=money). I think it's clear that he could give a rat's ass whether you're laughing with or at him. Either way, he runs a commercial while 14k people watch. We're talking about this, aren't we? It's working isn't it? His viewership will remain outrageously high, won't it? Yes, yes, and yes. It's a great tactic. Some might suggest a special one. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
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Veriol
Czech Republic502 Posts
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Von
United States363 Posts
On September 20 2011 00:28 HotShizz wrote: Okay... So... that was a very well edited video, and I know that Idra pulls 10K+ viewers every time he streams, but... how can anyone stand to be around or listen to someone so elitist and hate filled who obviously hates his job, yet refuses to go find something in life to make him happy. I mean, if it's that bad, just quit. Honestly man ... I think after watching this vid - a lot of it is just his personality and sense of humor. He reminds me of certain friends of mine. I think either you "get it", or you don't. If you don't get it you'll read all kinds of things into it that are not true. Like I said .. used to think he was an obnoxious bitch. Now I think he's hilarious. Rock on Idra | ||
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
I get the sense that he is trying to cover for the fact that he invests so much time into the game but is not as good as he thinks he should be | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:45 ImGonnaRideYou wrote: What you want is for the people to laugh with you, not laugh at you. (Don't know about you guys, but I was laughing at, not with.). And if he thinks this way about some of the best NA players (ie. retards), imagine how he thinks of you personally, if you are his fan. A comedian wants you to laugh with him. A clown wants you to laugh at him. IdrA is the clown, but the comedian is Greg Fields. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 20 2011 04:58 mijagi182 wrote: Well i am fan of IdrAs play, i often watch his stream, but seriously, whats intelligent in calling others "retards" again and agian? Well reading the thread seems like it does impress kids, but id rather wish he skip those stupid comments and focus on in game "know how", because thats what hes really good at. The thing is he probably knows it helps his viewer count and commercials... He calls players retarded, not the people playing. (excluding TT1 and a few others) I can say MKP plays a retarded TvT style with too much Bio, and not mean Lee Jung Hoon is retarded. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
The Skype part had me in stitches though ahahaaa EDIT: There is actually an error in the hookers part, where IdrA according to your subtitles says "just a sense of humour". He actually says "just Geoffs[iNcontroL's] sense of humour" | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:03 SafeAsCheese wrote: He calls players retarded, not the people playing. (excluding TT1 and a few others) I can say MKP plays a retarded TvT style with too much Bio, and not mean MKP is retarded. what about french-canadians xD? | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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SeraKuDA
Canada343 Posts
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drlame
Sweden574 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:01 Roxy wrote: Idra comes off as pretty insecure to me I get the sense that he is trying to cover for the fact that he invests so much time into the game but is not as good as he thinks he should be So many future psychologists on teamliquid. Especially in threads concerning IdrA. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
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Shiori
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RodYan
United States126 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:18 drlame wrote: So many future psychologists on teamliquid. Especially in threads concerning IdrA. At least that brings food to your table. Defending your man 24/7 is not an useful skill ^_^ Anyways, I found this funny, I just wish idra respected the game and the competition more. But the video was pretty funny anyways | ||
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Wrecken
United States213 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:40 Shiori wrote: i like how idra flames so much but still can't win anything lately! He acatually beat out sheth in some qualifier tournament, and then beat rain in another online event. | ||
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PenguinWithNuke
250 Posts
<3 Idra. His stream is one of the best. | ||
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caruso
Germany733 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:01 Azarkon wrote: A comedian wants you to laugh with him. A clown wants you to laugh at him. IdrA is the clown, but the comedian is Greg Fields. Nice one. | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 05:40 Shiori wrote: i like how idra flames so much but still can't win anything lately! I like how all the newbie's that come to sc2 think you have to WIN something to be good. Should listen to day9 , artosis , and incontrol talk about old WCG's qualifiers and tourneys. | ||
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rezzan
Sweden329 Posts
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MileyCyrus
United States285 Posts
We dont do hookers and blow, in the EG house. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
<3 this is why i watch his stream. he always has these one liners that are awesome. idk why everyone takes it so seriously. whenever i play a game with friends on skype i hate on allies (in like LoL and shit) and enemies alike. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
Those that think this is the only thing you hear on his stream is fucking retarded. | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
Haters gonna Hate ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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BigBoss99
Canada16 Posts
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:54 BigBoss99 wrote: Im french canadian, and as much as I like you IdrA, you can't put every french canadian in one bag and classify it! I guess you were refering to Kiwikaki? I mean, you can never put everyone under one blanket, but every french canadian that I've met in any game kind of plays the game in their own way, even if it's against the grain. They're more unique and harder to predict than most players. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:04 Lomak wrote: I like how all the newbie's that come to sc2 think you have to WIN something to be good. Should listen to day9 , artosis , and incontrol talk about old WCG's qualifiers and tourneys. Well, obviously losing is true skill indicator. Such a silly remark, good players are the ones who win more. Thats it. I don't know why you brought up your 2nd point.... | ||
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:02 windsupernova wrote: Well, obviously losing is true skill indicator. Such a silly remark, good players are the ones who win more. Thats it. I don't know why you brought up your 2nd point.... So you think you can't be a good player and not always win? Thats just plain silly comment. | ||
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Dr.Sin
Canada1126 Posts
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muffley
United States280 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:04 Radook wrote: So you think you can't be a good player and not always win? Thats just plain silly comment. Huh... yeah? Consistency is what makes a good player good. I am not calling idra bad(he is pretty good) but as far as skill goes results speak for themeselves. And of course you can lose games, but a good player would still win more than losing. Thats consistency, you might get unluckly from time to time but on average your results are good.(again I am nto calling idra bad or anything, I just find it ridiculous to say that there is no correlation between winning and being good. ) | ||
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HellionDrop
281 Posts
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Chicken Chaser
United States533 Posts
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Al Bundy
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:13 windsupernova wrote: Huh... yeah? Consistency is what makes a good player good. I am not calling idra bad(he is pretty good) but as far as skill goes results speak for themeselves. And of course you can lose games, but a good player would still win more than losing. Thats consistency, you might get unluckly from time to time but on average your results are good.(again I am nto calling idra bad or anything, I just find it ridiculous to say that there is no correlation between winning and being good. ) You know JulyZerg doesn't have any big tourney wins in SC2 right? Is he awful?? | ||
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hytonight
303 Posts
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Catchafire2000
United States227 Posts
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
maybe i should watch his stream more often | ||
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thezergk
United States492 Posts
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EtohEtoh
Canada669 Posts
And poutine makes you "seem a little bit off" | ||
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Hatsu
United Kingdom474 Posts
However, he might just be acting the part - and if that's the case, he is really good at it. | ||
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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:02 windsupernova wrote: Well, obviously losing is true skill indicator. Such a silly remark, good players are the ones who win more. Thats it. I don't know why you brought up your 2nd point.... Because you don't have to WIN a tournament to show skill. These tournaments have a LOT of really good players. Only one person will win the tournament, does that mean everyone else there is terrible? I brought up my second point because they have talked about this exact thing before, saying that you could come away from a tournament like a WCG and feel good because you managed to make it to round 2 or 3 or w/e and take out really good players to get there. You talk about consistency. Idra is perhaps the most consistent foreign player out there. The entire time he was in Korea for SC2 he was Code S status, he's won a few tourneys here and there, and almost always manages to make it far in the ones he doesn't. | ||
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aisight
United States145 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:59 aisight wrote: Good job telling someone that he's ignorant because you can nitpick his statements, I guess? His entire statement was "I like how idra flames but can't win anything' It's not nitpicking when you call someone ignorant for saying something ignorant. | ||
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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AutomatonOmega
United States706 Posts
On September 19 2011 16:44 NowLookHere wrote: Wrong, that's just not how Idra's mind works. Watch a post-match interview of truly elite athletes like Tom Brady, Rafael Nadal, etc, they will always admit there are things they can do better (after a big win and ESPECIALLY after a big loss). The greats know there's always room to improve and that they can only control their own play, that's why they focus on their mistakes and ways to improve. The players who are busy complaining about external factors or failing to take responsibility for their own mistakes are the ones who never achieve their potential. Those guys don't play a game where they're expected to play against average joes for practice. They're in a community where everyone (to a certain extent) is elite. You cannot compare the two without being utterly and hopelessly biased. (Which you are.) | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:54 BigBoss99 wrote: Im french canadian, and as much as I like you IdrA, you can't put every french canadian in one bag and classify it! I guess you were refering to Kiwikaki? I think that has something to do with me and TT1 | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
That fucking monotone voice idra always has, even when clearly annoyed by something in game he's like an emotionless robot.....or the fact that he pisses off some people so much that they rage more than he does. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:14 Lomak wrote: I don't know whats more hilarious. That fucking monotone voice idra always has, even when clearly annoyed by something in game he's like an emotionless robot.....or the fact that he pisses off some people so much that they rage more than he does. It's hilarious people try to engage him in some conversation and you hope that Idra says something either 1) neutral or 2) positive and he crushes all our nerd hopes and rips into the poor guy ): | ||
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Calliopee
Denmark151 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:28 RezChi wrote: Does idrA every say someone is actually good? O_o Protoss units apparently are quite good... | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:28 RezChi wrote: Does idrA every say someone is actually good? O_o Mostly Koreans. He has a very low opinion of the NA scene. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:30 Calliopee wrote: Protoss units apparently are quite good... heehee. omfg i watch this thrice and its not old | ||
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necrOtix
81 Posts
i was waiting for someone to do this. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:11 AutomatonOmega wrote: Those guys don't play a game where they're expected to play against average joes for practice. They're in a community where everyone (to a certain extent) is elite. You cannot compare the two without being utterly and hopelessly biased. (Which you are.) When an athlete in any sports loses to someone who is considered a lot weaker or an underdog they certainly dont say that he is bad after they lose. Nobody ever does that in real sports... | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:36 AntiGrav1ty wrote: When an athlete in any sports loses to someone who is considered a lot weaker or an underdog they certainly dont say that he is bad after they lose. Nobody ever does that in real sports... those underdogs are still full time professional players in fields with much deeper and more developed talent pools than a 1 year old esport. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:39 IdrA wrote: those underdogs are still full time professional players in fields with much deeper and more developed talent pools than a 1 year old esport. meh come on it's irrelevent, you'd do this even if SC2 had been around for 10 years | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:47 ReignFayth wrote: meh come on it's irrelevent, you'd do this even if SC2 had been around for 10 years how many top flight bw pros did i legitimately call bad? i say legitimately because someone will point out how i said free's micro wasnt actually micro, but on the whole ive always respected good players. the structure of esports and particularly sc2 means that im playing with and occasionally competing with people who are actually bad by objective standards. and the design of sc2 means its possible for them to beat me through no merit of their own. | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:47 ReignFayth wrote: meh come on it's irrelevent, you'd do this even if SC2 had been around for 10 years Can't really compare the dynamics of an athletic team sport to that of 2 uber nerds battling it out head to head in a science fiction based war zone over the internet. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:39 IdrA wrote: those underdogs are still full time professional players in fields with much deeper and more developed talent pools than a 1 year old esport. So you dont have to respect sc2 players because the talent pool isnt as deep. Then what makes Idra better than that lowly talent pool in sc2 which he is part of btw? That he is a fulltime player? He doesn't even respect all the other fulltime players. There is no logical reasoning behind his BM. It's just BM and venting. Personally i don't even care about it, but dont make it out to be something it isnt. | ||
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chrisgreg
Canada61 Posts
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spacecase
Canada2 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:51 IdrA wrote: how many top flight bw pros did i legitimately call bad? i say legitimately because someone will point out how i said free's micro wasnt actually micro, but on the whole ive always respected good players. the structure of esports and particularly sc2 means that im playing with and occasionally competing with people who are actually bad by objective standards. and the design of sc2 means its possible for them to beat me through no merit of their own. I honestly don't know about your entire history of calling people bad, I just know you tend to call people bad on the fly based on your emotions particularly huk.. and then you changed your mind when he joined ur team | ||
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Typhoon1789
Australia292 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:56 AntiGrav1ty wrote: So you dont have to respect sc2 players because the talent pool isnt as deep. Then what makes Idra better than that lowly talent pool in sc2 which he is part of btw? That he is a fulltime player? He doesn't even respect all the other fulltime players. There is no logical reasoning behind his BM. It's just BM and venting. Personally i don't even care about it, but dont make it out to be something it isnt. Idra just say's shit without thinking. We all have our weaknesses. Anyway's OT: The vid was pretty cool. | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:10 Xinder wrote: Not sure how many of you guys follow poker. Idra has always reminded me of Phil Helmuth. Phil Helmuth's view of poker is "If it weren't for luck, I'd win 'em all". Idra has a similar mentality. "If it weren't for every build that isn't considered 'standard' I'd win 'em all". Also both tend to rage and are pretty BM. It's always made me laugh both when Phil Helmuth does/says stuff and when Idra does/says stuff. IdrA is actually better at what he does than phil hellmuth though hellmuth is very delusional about his "skills", I'm hoping most of it is just an act | ||
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Thrill
2599 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:12 ReignFayth wrote: IdrA is actually better at what he does than phil hellmuth though hellmuth is very delusional about his "skills", I'm hoping most of it is just an act Are you kidding? His record certainly tells a different story. Skills or no skills, the man is unquestionably accomplished. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:17 Thrill wrote: Are you kidding? His record certainly tells a different story. Skills or no skills, the man is unquestionably accomplished. yeah 10 yrs ago when nobody knew how to play he had ok results, fact is, with regulars at the table, he gets run over, he can beat total fishes obviously it's like if idra won 10 huge tourneys in a row where every single players but him were bronze league | ||
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bubO
United States367 Posts
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kraut
374 Posts
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:57 ReignFayth wrote: I honestly don't know about your entire history of calling people bad, I just know you tend to call people bad on the fly based on your emotions particularly huk.. and then you changed your mind when he joined ur team i referenced huk as the proper way to play pvz on itg or sotg quite a while before he joined eg | ||
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adi_hsd
Romania74 Posts
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reverb
United States41 Posts
just really fuckin bad User was warned for this post | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:27 IdrA wrote: i referenced huk as the proper way to play pvz on itg or sotg quite a while before he joined eg you still called him horrible after you lost to him more than once, as I said, you make these statements when you're mad | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:12 ReignFayth wrote: IdrA is actually better at what he does than phil hellmuth though hellmuth is very delusional about his "skills", I'm hoping most of it is just an act Lol he always seems to get eaten alive by top tier players in cash games. | ||
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chocolatebunny
301 Posts
but just wondering, what is idra drinking in the beginning? a milkshake or something? oh yeah. lol the guard dog for the eg house weighs 5 pounds | ||
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Grackodile
United States263 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:34 ReignFayth wrote: you still called him horrible after you lost to him more than once, as I said, you make these statements when you're mad I am pretty sure he called him "a piece of trash that wouldn't win any games if he didn't play protoss". But I don't really think he was referencing that he was necessarily a bad player just played the game really abusive. Especially since at the time there wasn't much you could do in PvZ and I imagine IdrA was frustrated at the state of the game. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:34 ReignFayth wrote: you still called him horrible after you lost to him more than once, as I said, you make these statements when you're mad winning games doesnt make a player not horrible. being good does. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
smartcast MBS (macro AND rallypoints mind you) 255 unit selection so honestly I do agree with him when objectively bad people are able to beat him because idra devoted all of his time into learning mechanics, then SC2 came around and now everyone of us are carried to having amazing mechanics thanks to blizzard's game design. You see the same stuff with boxer july and nada. I dare say if flash or jaedong switched they'd be fast as hell but because everyone else is also fast mechanics wise thanks to blizzard they'd lose many games compared to what we would expect. That said I prefer sc2 game design only because I can actually play it now w/o spending hours and hours practicing. From a viewers standpoint though, BW is so much better to watch | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:41 IdrA wrote: winning games doesnt make a player not horrible. being good does. how are we supposed to judge someone who's good from someone who isn't if it isn't from actual overall results...? which consists of wins and losses lol | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:56 AntiGrav1ty wrote: So you dont have to respect sc2 players because the talent pool isnt as deep. Then what makes Idra better than that lowly talent pool in sc2 which he is part of btw? That he is a fulltime player? He doesn't even respect all the other fulltime players. There is no logical reasoning behind his BM. It's just BM and venting. Personally i don't even care about it, but dont make it out to be something it isnt. no, you're more likely to play against bad players because there aren't as many people who are actually good at sc2. if you look at the people im talking about in that video there are only a handful who are known at all, and those are people like tt1 and i think its quite defensible to call him a bad player. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:44 ReignFayth wrote: how are we supposed to judge someone who's good from someone who isn't if it isn't from actual overall results...? which consists of wins and losses lol watching them play? | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
Who would you say is 'good' yet consistently loses? | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:48 Sub40APM wrote: Who would you say is 'good' yet consistently loses? Well not that "I" think he's good but I'm always hearing about how good Haypro is even though I've personally never seen him win a series. He usually dies to the same all in shit that I die to. | ||
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EtohEtoh
Canada669 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
then it just kind of becomes a matter of opinion, you're gonna judge according to the level you consider yourself to be at, same goes for every other competitive players | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:42 askTeivospy wrote: he does have a point though, SC2 skill ceiling is so much lower than SC1 just with these alone: smartcast MBS (macro AND rallypoints mind you) 255 unit selection being able to rally your workers to a mineral patch makes the game objectively easier, but at the same time i'd argue that its such a boring, 100% mechanical, muscle memory ability that it takes away from the 'esports' and 'entertainment' factors. even though i know im being subjective i certainly dont watch starcraft to see artosis zooming in on a command center and going 'well look guys, it takes him 0.1 seconds longer to send workers than his opponent, THIS IS HUGE'. it might be true but i dont care. you could make tennis courts bigger to make the game objectively harder, the fitter guy gains another advantage, but is it good for the sport? id argue that its probably not even relevant. this is why i hate people bringing up sc1 as this pinicle of esports BECAUSE it was hard, as if thats a good enough reason. On September 20 2011 09:48 Sub40APM wrote: Who would you say is 'good' yet consistently loses? oGsMC EL OH EL On September 20 2011 09:51 ReignFayth wrote: then it just kind of becomes a matter of opinion, you're gonna judge according to the level you consider yourself to be at, same goes for every other competitive players isnt that the only metric that matters though? idra doesnt go out of his way to call bronze players faggots, only people who are close enough to end up competing with him. his point is that even though they compete at the 'same' level he feels he is much better. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Icekommander
Canada483 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:42 askTeivospy wrote: he does have a point though, SC2 skill ceiling is so much lower than SC1 just with these alone: smartcast MBS (macro AND rallypoints mind you) 255 unit selection so honestly I do agree with him when objectively bad people are able to beat him because idra devoted all of his time into learning mechanics, then SC2 came around and now everyone of us are carried to having amazing mechanics thanks to blizzard's game design. You see the same stuff with boxer july and nada. I dare say if flash or jaedong switched they'd be fast as hell but because everyone else is also fast mechanics wise thanks to blizzard they'd lose many games compared to what we would expect. That said I prefer sc2 game design only because I can actually play it now w/o spending hours and hours practicing. From a viewers standpoint though, BW is so much better to watch When someone hits the skill ceiling on either game, I'll be concerned. Until then... | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:02 ReignFayth wrote: he may be right he definitely is facing bad players from time to time, but he has been known to disrespect people that weren't actually bad because he was mad. So when he actually says that about someone, I think nobody should take him seriously and just see it as venting but you could also argue that as we see at mlg, 99% of people are aweful compared to someone who actually takes playing as their job seriously? :d thus idra is right, everyone is bad! | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:51 ReignFayth wrote: then it just kind of becomes a matter of opinion, you're gonna judge according to the level you consider yourself to be at, same goes for every other competitive players It's not exclusively opinion. You can generally tell when a player is playing well vs not well without needing the outcome of the game to answer it for you. I'm sure you've watched plenty of games where the loser of the game still looked pretty impressive, as well as winners of games making a lot of mistakes and playing a questionable style. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:06 Clog wrote: It's not exclusively opinion. You can generally tell when a player is playing well vs not well without needing the outcome of the game to answer it for you. I'm sure you've watched plenty of games where the loser of the game still looked pretty impressive, as well as winners of games making a lot of mistakes and playing a questionable style. I also watched several games where idra's opponent played well and idra called him trash | ||
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SiN]
United States540 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:51 ReignFayth wrote: then it just kind of becomes a matter of opinion, you're gonna judge according to the level you consider yourself to be at, same goes for every other competitive players Dude, there is such a thing as an educated opinion and not all opinions are created equal. You'd trust a physicist's opinion on string theory more than a plumber's. There are definitely objective observations you could make about one's play that may judged in relation to your experience of better players, but not be considered wholly subjective or unjustifiable. Sorry for butting in. Edit: IdrA may be blunt and extreme in how he expresses his opinions, but they're not baseless. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:42 askTeivospy wrote: he does have a point though, SC2 skill ceiling is so much lower than SC1 just with these alone: smartcast MBS (macro AND rallypoints mind you) 255 unit selection so honestly I do agree with him when objectively bad people are able to beat him because idra devoted all of his time into learning mechanics, then SC2 came around and now everyone of us are carried to having amazing mechanics thanks to blizzard's game design. You see the same stuff with boxer july and nada. I dare say if flash or jaedong switched they'd be fast as hell but because everyone else is also fast mechanics wise thanks to blizzard they'd lose many games compared to what we would expect. That said I prefer sc2 game design only because I can actually play it now w/o spending hours and hours practicing. From a viewers standpoint though, BW is so much better to watch I would disagree, it has a different skill ceiling. You cant compare the two really because they are fundamentally two different games with different abilities, values, etc. The skill ceiling might actually be obscenely high if you use those AI programs as the peak ceiling for game play. What was needed in BW, might not be the focus of SC2. Both are extremely difficult, but with a young game like SC2 people are still getting used to the mechanics (when to inject, chrono, etc. for example.) While in BW individual unit position was paramount for a successful game. Give it time and a chance, and don't jump to conclusions you cannot reasonably make. Compare the development of todays GSL players to Last septembers. Skill requirements are increasing quite drastically. | ||
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bre1010
71 Posts
And this video is very well made, I wish I could've seen it live, whenever I see Idra streaming I've never heard him commentating his play :/ | ||
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shamoke
United States4 Posts
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:14 Defacer wrote: Dude, there is such a thing as an educated opinion and not all opinions are created equal. You'd trust a physicist's opinion on string theory more than a plumber's. There are definitely objective observations you could make about one's play that may judged in relation to your experience of better players, but not be considered wholly subjective or unjustifiable. Sorry for butting in. Edit: IdrA may be blunt and extreme in how he expresses his opinions, but they're not baseless. I would agree if Idra won every MLG, Dreamhack, NASL, IGN, IEM, TSL however he don't matter in fact he is not even doing well. So when he says a player is crap and the only reason he lost was because his opponent did some dumb tactic then its rather delusional. Personally I don't think Idra will do very well in the future until he change his mindset but gl to him him nonetheless I just don't see it. | ||
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UkGracken
United Kingdom129 Posts
I think hes good , definatly not as good as he could be But thats life. | ||
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Clog
United States950 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:24 Lunas wrote: I would agree if Idra won every MLG, Dreamhack, NASL, IGN, IEM, TSL however he don't matter in fact he is not even doing well. So when he says a player is crap and the only reason he lost was because his opponent did some dumb tactic then its rather delusional. Personally I don't think Idra will do very well in the future until he change his mindset but gl to him him nonetheless I just don't see it. I mostly agree with your second point but I do not feel that IdrA's lack of tournament wins have anything do with the quality of play he encounters on the NA ladder, which is often, in fact, low. | ||
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Kitana
United States3 Posts
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Stijx
United States804 Posts
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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MrGingerKid
United States63 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:24 Lunas wrote: I would agree if Idra won every MLG, Dreamhack, NASL, IGN, IEM, TSL however he don't matter in fact he is not even doing well. So when he says a player is crap and the only reason he lost was because his opponent did some dumb tactic then its rather delusional. Personally I don't think Idra will do very well in the future until he change his mindset but gl to him him nonetheless I just don't see it. You can't say that IdrA doesn't know what he's talking about. Just because you don't win every tournament doesn't mean that you are not a person who understands the game. If you ever watch state of the game you can listen to Tyler analyze the shit out of any protoss matchup, many times leaving the rest of the panel speechless. You don't have to win tournaments to know what you're talking about. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:24 Lunas wrote: I would agree if Idra won every MLG, Dreamhack, NASL, IGN, IEM, TSL however he don't matter in fact he is not even doing well. So when he says a player is crap and the only reason he lost was because his opponent did some dumb tactic then its rather delusional. Personally I don't think Idra will do very well in the future until he change his mindset but gl to him him nonetheless I just don't see it. so you're saying yellow was bad at sc1 then? | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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AeonStrife
United States918 Posts
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Nakama
Germany584 Posts
I mean dont get me wrong everytime i see Idra cast or say sth not related to zerg beeing UP i love him and i think outside of sc2 he is a rly nice guy but he is the worst sportsman ever. 1. with this attiutde he wont win anything and 2. he looks like a 13 year old kid doing this. It is jsut awful to watch It doesnt matter if he is jsut bitching around on ladder the fact he looses to those awful players just shows he has a big whole in his playstyle and as long as he keeps this stupid attitude he wont improve . Instead of trying to solve the problems he is facing he hopes blizz is doing the job 4 him... poor guy wasting all his talent... why bitching around like a little sissi and blaming everything but urself for ur loss - better show us some godlike play like neastea or fruitdealer and if Blizz makes a patch to balance out things, ok be happy, but if they dont just try it even harder . | ||
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:02 Nakama wrote: No matter how u look at it Idras whole BM makes no sense at all either he is the most consistent Troll ever or just super stupid. I mean come on " I am losing cause he doesnt know how to play" haha how irrational is this if u cant win someone like this u wont ever be able to win anything and thats a FACT. I mean dont get me wrong everytime i see Idra cast or say sth not related to zerg beeing UP i love him and i think outside of sc2 he is a rly nice guy but he is the worst sportsman ever. 1. with this attiutde he wont win anything and 2. he looks like a 13 year old kid doing this. It is jsut awful to watch It doesnt matter if he is jsut bitching around on ladder the fact he looses to those awful players just shows he has a big whole in his playstyle and as long as he keeps this stupid attitude he wont improve . Instead of trying to solve the problems he is facing he hopes blizz is doing the job 4 him... poor guy wasting all his talent... why bitching around like a little sissi and blaming everything but urself for ur loss - better show us some godlike play like neastea or fruitdealer and if Blizz makes a patch to balance out things, ok be happy, but if they dont just try it even harder . lmfao Did you know that NesTea and Fruit Dealer were among the forefront of Zerg complaining from november though around April? That only that, but the ultralisk splash bug patch played a major role in FD vs oGsTOP game 3 on Kulas, which lead to FD taking a championship. Unless you think 13 thors with 2-1 Thors lose to 8 1-2 ultras without their armor upgrade. If you think he isn't "trying to improve" and is just waiting for patches, you are delusional. | ||
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ZOMGitsTHEEND
Canada202 Posts
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triggey
10 Posts
That made my day. <3 Idra | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:24 Lunas wrote: I would agree if Idra won every MLG, Dreamhack, NASL, IGN, IEM, TSL however he don't matter in fact he is not even doing well. So when he says a player is crap and the only reason he lost was because his opponent did some dumb tactic then its rather delusional. Personally I don't think Idra will do very well in the future until he change his mindset but gl to him him nonetheless I just don't see it. I don't know; he usually gets top 1-2 non-Korean at most of those tourneys and is generally only behind HuK/Nani/Thorzain (whoever had a good run). On September 20 2011 11:10 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote: is there any player that idra thinks is good? lol everyone he was playing were complete trashes and fucking imbeciles in his opinion Yeah but none of them really ladder, at least not on NA. | ||
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Nakama
Germany584 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:05 SafeAsCheese wrote: lmfao Did you know that NesTea and Fruit Dealer were among the forefront of Zerg complaining from november though around April? That only that, but the ultralisk splash bug patch played a major role in FD vs oGsTOP game 3 on Kulas, which lead to FD taking a championship. Unless you think 13 thors with 2-1 Thors lose to 8 1-2 ultras without their armor upgrade. If you think he isn't "trying to improve" and is just waiting for patches, you are delusional. He is trying to imrpove but with this mindset he isnt going anywhere . And i dont want to say it isnt legit to complain about balnce issuse but as long as other human beeings can win the biggest tourney out there i dont think bitching around like this vs palyers 10000X worse then most of the GSL players is helpfull at all. And btw im thinking too that Idra is above most if not all of the palyers he is BMing but that makes his Bm even worse. I mean how stupid can u be to conistently loose to worse palyers then urself ?? The point neither u nor IDra get is that the diffrence between him and nestea is only a diffrence in their mindset and not in their "measurable" skill . | ||
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:45 turdburgler wrote: so you're saying yellow was bad at sc1 then? Yellow never complaint about balance or his opponent did a dumb tactic that somehow worked and won him the game. he trained and practise hard. See that's the difference. Also comparing Yellow to Idra is abit off to say it gently. What im saying is if Idra was in fact Nestea it will hold much more credence when he speaks about balance or whom is bad or good. So when an average player start raging about how op Protoss, Terran is and how stupid ZvZ is. it really don't say much, all it does its fuel the discussion about balance instead of the players. I | ||
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Lunas
253 Posts
On September 20 2011 11:20 hmunkey wrote: I don't know; he usually gets top 1-2 non-Korean at most of those tourneys and is generally only behind HuK/Nani/Thorzain (whoever had a good run). Yeah but none of them really ladder, at least not on NA. You must be speaking about MLG? I guarantee you if more of the top EU players would attend MLG he will be even futher behind. Also he couldn't qualify to the NASL finals, he placed 7 at IGN season 2 and 20 last MLG. I wouldn't call Idra play atm anything else then average. Dont get me wrong he is still very good but he could be so much better if he changed his mindset. | ||
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
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bLuR
Canada625 Posts
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Carl_Sagan
United States226 Posts
More gg more skill. | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:50 socommaster123 wrote: LOL I love IDra no homo Well I love IdrA | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:19 GMonster wrote: well its funny cause a lot of the stuff he says is true. Like if i play IdrA, i have a decent chance of beating him on the ladder just because im really really really bad, which sounds silly but i can open... 4 rax allin and it could catch him off guard. Which makes it hard to know what they are doing cause... again we bad. Like a master league player playing against Diamond, you can actually lose cause you can't predict what they will do. IMHO it is the defintion of a good player to not die even when you don't know what your opponent is doing. That is quite a basic skill, isn't it? | ||
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:01 sansalvador wrote: What a sad, sad person. As i heard it TT1 was the sad person, very very sad after that game. Love hearing idra cast, always get a laugh out of his dry humor. Watching this reminded me of this clip for some reason | ||
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edc
United States666 Posts
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Nakama
Germany584 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:19 GMonster wrote: well its funny cause a lot of the stuff he says is true. Like if i play IdrA, i have a decent chance of beating him on the ladder just because im really really really bad, which sounds silly but i can open... 4 rax allin and it could catch him off guard. Which makes it hard to know what they are doing cause... again we bad. Like a master league player playing against Diamond, you can actually lose cause you can't predict what they will do. I hope u dint meant it for real casue this is pure bullshit.. cant MVP do the same strat but with better macro and micro ? And if a player of MVPs caliber sees u cant defend several off timings he will just all in u 5 times in a row and ur done thats what skill is, to beat ur opponent no matter what it takes and thats why idra got cheesed so much during his time in korea. Mb playing macro heavy is the best way to paly sc2 but it is worth nothing if u cant defend ur advatage properly + it isnt the only way to paly this game otherwise just make a competition who can make more units in 5 mins..... | ||
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On September 20 2011 10:07 ReignFayth wrote: I also watched several games where idra's opponent played well and idra called him trash well by Na standards maybe. 95% of the people he's playing against are trash. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:27 sansalvador wrote: IMHO it is the defintion of a good player to not die even when you don't know what your opponent is doing. That is quite a basic skill, isn't it? It is very easy for a good player to be caught off guard by things that arent suppose to be happening because they just arent a good idea. The reason for this is after say i hold off 2 rax aggression rather easily though I built more lings than I would have wanted and all i see are 2 marines denying OL scouting the smart thing is probably to expand or tech not go 4 rax and bring everything because it just shouldnt work. | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:28 Quintum_ wrote: As i heard it TT1 was the sad person, very very sad after that game. Love hearing idra cast, always get a laugh out of his dry humor. Watching this reminded me of this clip for some reason + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4DUYDcm4WI First time I've seen this, fucking hilarious. Thanks for posting it. =) | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
EDIT: 700 posts omgwtf. | ||
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ShrimpDance
392 Posts
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nforce
Bulgaria116 Posts
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ShrimpDance
392 Posts
On September 20 2011 15:49 nforce wrote: This was absolutely hilarious, good job! What game is he talking about where he is splitting his air units? i think that was a ZvZ vs VIBE on Shakuras Plateau where IdrA went ling / muta and vibe went roach / infestor/ hydr aand idra was separating / fanning out his mutas to mitigate fungal damage | ||
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
That only that, but the ultralisk splash bug patch played a major role in FD vs oGsTOP game 3 on Kulas, which lead to FD taking a championship. Unless you think 13 thors with 2-1 Thors lose to 8 1-2 ultras without their armor upgrade. dude the splash bug only came into effect when ultralisks were attacking buildings. ultralisks vs thors in that series were just like ultralisk vs thors from release. ultralisk vs PFs on the other hand were a bit scary. ultra splash has been nerfed and castrated against all targets since then. | ||
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Ruyguy
Canada988 Posts
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ForeverSleep
Canada920 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 20 2011 12:27 sansalvador wrote: IMHO it is the defintion of a good player to not die even when you don't know what your opponent is doing. That is quite a basic skill, isn't it? That's how RTS, like Brood War, are supposed to work. It's very easy to lose in SC2 to completely random stuff. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
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Far.771
United States51 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Foreigners Still Suck by Rekrul ... Idra loses 2-5. The white hope of the modern day and age losing to some random zerg player from China. If you can't beat him how are you supposed to beat progamers? I mean seriously the only games you won were games on two maps, Colosseum and Destination, maps that you've been practicing on 13 hours a day in the CJ Pro-team house with Koreans. Of course those are locks but the other five? Why did you lose Idra? Well, luckily IdrA decided to tell us! ... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 20 2011 17:10 Probe1 wrote: I'll just link this classic thread and go my own way. Foreigners Still Suck by Rekrul Haha I just discovered that thread last week and I thought of it as I watched this video. | ||
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Miraju
Germany235 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On September 20 2011 17:25 Sufficiency wrote: So wait. Idra just plays BNET all day? =\ Is that his practice regime? Where did you get that impression? He has like 600 games played on ladder, that's like 2 weeks for a progamer. Maybe a bit more on a second thought, but still not that much | ||
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msjakofsky
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On September 20 2011 19:11 msjakofsky wrote: well i'm not a fan of idra's attitude overall but this video was hilarious i can sign that. His attitude prevents him from being a better player, but being a true character has got it's worth. | ||
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On September 20 2011 19:16 TigerKarl wrote: i can sign that. His attitude prevents him from being a better player, but being a true character has got it's worth. That sounds like an euphemism for "clown of e-sports". | ||
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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zanmat0
188 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On September 20 2011 22:51 Doraemon wrote: part 2 is definitely needed We need a lot more parts. This vid is the best Idra vid I have seen. I don't like Idra as a player but man he can entertain with his personality | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:57 ReignFayth wrote: I honestly don't know about your entire history of calling people bad, I just know you tend to call people bad on the fly based on your emotions particularly huk.. and then you changed your mind when he joined ur team HE CHANGED after huk started winning tournaments and he lose a couple of games vs Huk. idra is a good players but he thinks he is the only one good and everybody need to play macro to be good which is actually wrong, u are allow to play as u want. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On September 20 2011 16:23 SafeAsCheese wrote: That's how RTS, like Brood War, are supposed to work. It's very easy to lose in SC2 to completely random stuff. Either that or SC2 is the same way and Idra's builds are too greedy. | ||
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On September 20 2011 09:12 ReignFayth wrote: IdrA is actually better at what he does than phil hellmuth though hellmuth is very delusional about his "skills", I'm hoping most of it is just an act Not sure how you judge "better". I dislike Hellmuth but he's *far* more accomplished than Idra. Regardless, the similarities are scary. | ||
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dersoy
Malaysia31 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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thirnaz
Sweden876 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
Guy could've been a comedian. His delivery is so deadpan. "His units were clumped. That's unfortunate for him" "We dont actually have hookers at the EG house. That was just sense of humor" | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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WorkerRush
Canada79 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 21 2011 05:22 decaf wrote: the things he says to his opponents are disgusting.. Welcome to starcraft. If you think listening to idra call people "retarded, silly, bad, and stupid" is bad you should try actually playing a game and listen to people tell you they want to 'face fuck your family and slit their throat' or "burn your house down while you in there' or "i hope you die you fucking cunt nigger" If anyone actually thinks the things idra says are so terrible they need to take a step back and look at how genuinely immature the majority of players are in this game. | ||
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Soliduok
Canada222 Posts
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galtdunn
United States977 Posts
I can't stop the cheese either T.T | ||
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On September 21 2011 06:03 Soliduok wrote: I think a lot of the BM is actually directed at the game but gets projected onto the player. Many people can play terran or protoss at a lower skill and compete at the top level on the ladder. Zerg is just harder to play and someone without a deeper understanding of the game playing as zerg can still lose to a cheesy terran or protoss. Not again... | ||
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the p00n
Netherlands615 Posts
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On September 21 2011 07:02 the p00n wrote: As a random player who mained zerg in season 1 and 2 I can say without much doubt that zerg is the easiest to play mechanically, whereas terran is the hardest. Not dying to stupid shit in the early game as zerg is tough, however. Well Nerchio who was top10 EU playing as random for quite a while, disagrees with you. I gueass if one is just "A" moving with mass units it looks to be easy but i dont think he'll have much success. also my friend whos top master, always has like 50 more apm when playing Zerg than other races so... | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On September 20 2011 16:23 SafeAsCheese wrote: That's how RTS, like Brood War, are supposed to work. It's very easy to lose in SC2 to completely random stuff. Nostalgia clouding your memory perhaps? There was so much stupid shit in BW you could lose to instantly, even against worst players. Chief offender was the DT drop in TvP -_- | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
never change | ||
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Lamphead
Canada241 Posts
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 21 2011 00:20 0neder wrote: Either that or SC2 is the same way and Idra's builds are too greedy. Yeah basically, if you are actually better than everyone else you can cut corners to get the scouting you need in or put up more defense then needed. Instead good players still cut corners and don't innovate because they already have the game figured out in their head. I will always be a fan of IdrA, but his mentality doesn't go along with Playing to Win. He would be so much more scary if he didn't try to be only a machine macro god. Making excuses why you lose the game instead of figuring out how to beat these cheesy all-in strategies is just a horrible mindset to have when trying to play a game professionally. I really enjoyed Rekrul's post talking about him losing to F91. Anyway, these videos are classic IdrA and I enjoy watching the amount of BM that comes out of his mouth. | ||
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bRuTaL!!
Finland588 Posts
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Archie_Lewis
Czech Republic87 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On September 21 2011 11:58 TheSubtleArt wrote: Nostalgia clouding your memory perhaps? There was so much stupid shit in BW you could lose to instantly, even against worst players. Chief offender was the DT drop in TvP -_- or... cancel your own CC ^^ | ||
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czaku
Poland429 Posts
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GBataille
France19 Posts
And this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992 | ||
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altered
Switzerland646 Posts
funny, every time idra opens his mouth i think about this threads and how much i love rekrul (and F-91). | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
EDIT: Does he have any gay friends? I mean it's 2011, I thought that 'gay' shit died out too? He says it pretty frequently. I wonder if he picked that up from another particular player on EG.... | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On September 22 2011 19:52 GBataille wrote: Ohh I'll just leave this here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 And this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992 Well, tbh honest, those threads just show that the quality of posting at the time was not that great. | ||
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weiliem
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Elroi
Sweden5588 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:22 Roggay wrote: Well, tbh honest, those threads just show that the quality of posting at the time was not that great. That has nothing to do with the quality of posting at the time: it is Rekrul he is still the same. And his point remains. Idra has the worst mind set of any progamer I know of. | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
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Flowjo
United States928 Posts
On September 22 2011 20:17 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Does he EVER compliment anyone? EDIT: Does he have any gay friends? I mean it's 2011, I thought that 'gay' shit died out too? He says it pretty frequently. I wonder if he picked that up from another particular player on EG.... your wrong if you think it died out.... almost 90% of the people I know including myself use it in a normal conversation | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
[Common]: Chill out chat! Geez [IdrA]: People can stop bitching by the way. If there's a problem, you can tell me without being bitches. [Common]: Now I don't know what he's doing right now [IdrA]: That's the problem with players like this. They don't actually know how to play, so it's hard to know what they're doing [Common]: What's he doing here? Hydralisks? [IdrA]: This guy's just bad. [Common]: Why's he pushing with roaches...? [IdrA]: I think this guy's actually just bad. [Common]: He's on this gaming team, should be a decent match, probably got an edge on him [IdrA]: He's on a gaming team, so he'll be bad, but not horribly bad. [Common]: Sweet! Got him! [IdrA]: That guy was so bad. Fucking horrible. [Common]: Why'd he do that? [IdrA]: He's retarded. He plays really retarded. He's just bad. Yeah that guy was just awful. (Any more commentators on | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On September 22 2011 19:52 GBataille wrote: But Rekrul was such a boss. I wonder who will step into his shoes? (or if TL admins these days will even allow a Rekrul #2).Ohh I'll just leave this here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342 And this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992 The best thread has to be the "Foreigners suck" one about testie, draco, artosis and others. | ||
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JesusOurSaviour
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On September 22 2011 21:22 Roggay wrote: Um are you kidding me? Rekrul's posts are like awesome. well justified opinions, lots of background content and exercises freedom of speech. All don in good faith, albeit with much controversy.... :DWell, tbh honest, those threads just show that the quality of posting at the time was not that great. | ||
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atuor
United States82 Posts
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On September 23 2011 00:08 atuor wrote: Thought he was friends w/ Artosis He is. they're great friends. | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
On September 20 2011 13:05 Adreme wrote: It is very easy for a good player to be caught off guard by things that arent suppose to be happening because they just arent a good idea. The reason for this is after say i hold off 2 rax aggression rather easily though I built more lings than I would have wanted and all i see are 2 marines denying OL scouting the smart thing is probably to expand or tech not go 4 rax and bring everything because it just shouldnt work. 4 rax pretty good, nada does it, and if your oppenent don't prepare you can walk right in with alot of rines and just win the game , maybe got to greedy or try to skip baneling nest etc to get faster mutas etc. can also do a 2 medi , stim drop, only downfall of the build is your tank push comes later. | ||
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Adventurekid
Sweden505 Posts
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thebole1
Serbia126 Posts
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
On September 22 2011 22:52 Flowjo wrote: your wrong if you think it died out.... almost 90% of the people I know including myself use it in a normal conversation How mature of you. | ||
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
lol in reality the more it used in a joking fashion less meaning it has, you only give it power when you get all mad about it. in a deragtory fashion, ppl will stop using it to try and hurt you if more and more people use it jokingly and laugh about and not get mad or sad. cause the main reason someone may use it in a malicious fashion is to hurt you. so why would he continue to do that if it doesn't do anything anymore. I feel this way for all words that people take to seriously. In HS they would call me pizza face etc, but when I started ignore that guy he eventually stopped and then tried to fight my instead lol. | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
LOL this quote was awesome! | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
On September 21 2011 05:48 Lomak wrote: Welcome to starcraft. If you think listening to idra call people "retarded, silly, bad, and stupid" is bad you should try actually playing a game and listen to people tell you they want to 'face fuck your family and slit their throat' or "burn your house down while you in there' or "i hope you die you fucking cunt nigger" If anyone actually thinks the things idra says are so terrible they need to take a step back and look at how genuinely immature the majority of players are in this game. I would say this is actually the minority, not the majority, or does this happen in 50% of your games? Hell, even 10%? | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 23 2011 01:14 ExO_ wrote: I would say this is actually the minority, not the majority, or does this happen in 50% of your games? Hell, even 10%? In my shitload of sc2 games I had this happen to me like three times. I dunno but maybe there are leagues in which this happen more maybe? | ||
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damod
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momonami5
United States109 Posts
On September 23 2011 01:14 ExO_ wrote: I would say this is actually the minority, not the majority, or does this happen in 50% of your games? Hell, even 10%? it happens alot example gl hf gl hf bro loses the game: terran is OP, you dumb noob I'll kill you in real life dumb terran noob. alot of times it more graphic don't want to repeat on tl. not to mention i've done bm before to, when someone message me gg afterwards lol one day on a losing streak I was like shut up noob! sotp messaging me. NGNS is what cracked me up extra hard, cause everyone idra chat going ngns, and he said stop saying that ngns it's retarded i was lulzing. | ||
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Zedoych
Canada57 Posts
On September 23 2011 01:14 ExO_ wrote: I would say this is actually the minority, not the majority, or does this happen in 50% of your games? Hell, even 10%? Yeh I don't think that happens very often. In my last 20+ ladder games I'v been bm'd for no reason once. I imagine it happens more frequently in lower leagues though. | ||
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DeaTH.1914
Canada79 Posts
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On September 23 2011 01:25 DeaTH.1914 wrote: I hope this doesn't deter him from streaming more often. I enjoy his stream a lot more with the commentary. true :\ i hope he keeps doing it | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On September 23 2011 00:50 Uhh Negative wrote: "For everyone who was impressed with terran's splitting their marines.... you should watch that last game... I was doing that with air units" LOL this quote was awesome! It really is! Especially with that little smirk, it's the highlight of the video with the random rant about French Canadians. | ||
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FenneK
France1231 Posts
idra's stream is fucking awesome | ||
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IcyPringle
Canada210 Posts
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qoosakura
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On September 23 2011 00:46 momonami5 wrote: lol in reality the more it used in a joking fashion less meaning it has, you only give it power when you get all mad about it. in a deragtory fashion, ppl will stop using it to try and hurt you if more and more people use it jokingly and laugh about and not get mad or sad. cause the main reason someone may use it in a malicious fashion is to hurt you. so why would he continue to do that if it doesn't do anything anymore. I feel this way for all words that people take to seriously. In HS they would call me pizza face etc, but when I started ignore that guy he eventually stopped and then tried to fight my instead lol. that is entirely irrelevant whether or not the word usage is appropriate doesn't matter if it carries less meaning or more meaning when people make a big deal out of it, it is still wrong on topic: damn idra hates bad players | ||
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ContactKilla
United States194 Posts
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Ghola
United States55 Posts
Oh boy another internet white knight. Just FYI, no one gives a shit about how mature you think you are for not saying the word gay. | ||
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
On September 23 2011 08:24 Ghola wrote: Oh boy another internet white knight. Just FYI, no one gives a shit about how mature you think you are for not saying the word gay. Who the fuck says I'm a white knight? You have no idea what my persuation is you ignorant fuck. User was warned for this post | ||
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NewteN
United States179 Posts
On September 23 2011 12:11 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Who the fuck says I'm a white knight? You have no idea what my persuation is you ignorant fuck. Omfg shut up already, this is a fkn sc2 forum | ||
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Loser777
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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Ghola
United States55 Posts
On September 23 2011 12:11 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Who the fuck says I'm a white knight? You have no idea what my persuation is you ignorant fuck. I say you're a white knight. I can tell by the aura of pretentiousness emanating from your posts. User was warned for this post | ||
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bwally
United States670 Posts
On September 23 2011 12:36 Ghola wrote: I say you're a white knight. I can tell by the aura of pretentiousness emanating from your posts. You don't know what white knight means but Sanchez is being an ass. | ||
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Ghola
United States55 Posts
On September 23 2011 12:38 bwally wrote: You don't know what white knight means but Sanchez is being an ass. You're right, my bad. I guess I mixed it up with some other word. | ||
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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wordd
Australia190 Posts
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P3rytt
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trollingstone
Israel4 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Rokevo
Finland1033 Posts
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NerdCRAFT
United States53 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
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saiyanjustin
United States2 Posts
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MiKTeX
United States234 Posts
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Buff345
United States323 Posts
On September 25 2011 15:59 saiyanjustin wrote: Hahaha, it's hard to tell if he's serious or just playing it off a little bit for the stream. lol i agree.. I enjoy it either way though | ||
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asdfman
Finland34 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
On September 25 2011 16:06 stormtemplar wrote: In SC:BW where idra was always the favorite. I hope, for his sake, he is just letting of steam and seriously recognizes he has a looooooooong way to go. No one is getting any better, idra still the best the game just sucks and doesnt allow him to display the skillz | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
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Kuja
United States1759 Posts
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okrane
France265 Posts
Do you love spoiled brats for constant whining? Do you like toxic personalities sprouting unconstructive phrases all over the place? Seriously, why such idolization for such a whiny little bitch? What's even more funny is that, in real life, someone with his behaviour would be at first ridiculed by the entire group, then shun upon and finally completely ignored. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Best documentary of the year gogo. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 25 2011 17:34 okrane wrote: I am browsing this thread and stand here amazed at this phenomenon. People love scandal, bad mannerism, drama and flock to it like little girls to a *bad boy*'s pop concert. I see everyone pretty much stating that "this is the reason" why they love IdrA. Do you love spoiled brats for constant whining? Do you like toxic personalities sprouting unconstructive phrases all over the place? Seriously, why such idolization for such a whiny little bitch? What's even more funny is that, in real life, someone with his behaviour would be at first ridiculed by the entire group, then shun upon and finally completely ignored. I probably idolize him because he has strong mechanics, good money management and makes people like you infuriated with anger and jealousy! For a "whiny little bitch", he sure as hell has a decent life with that team house, salary and skillz. Might want to consider the choice of words. | ||
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GodBlessbeNz
France43 Posts
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sCfO20
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okrane
France265 Posts
On September 25 2011 17:40 Torte de Lini wrote: I probably idolize him because he has strong mechanics, good money management and makes people like you infuriated with anger and jealousy! For a "whiny little bitch", he sure as hell has a decent life with that team house, salary and skillz. Might want to consider the choice of words. No, kid. I am neither angry nor jealous. The e-sports scene is purely entertainment for me and he is surely not entertaining. And if you look at his progress since the beta started he's been constantly declining. He is no longer considered to be the best foreigner, neither the best zerg although he once was. Even if he remained that way, I'm not sure his attitude would do him good, but as it is, a middle-of-the-road guy with a bad mouth won't make any new fans, that's for sure. | ||
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sopas
509 Posts
On September 25 2011 17:40 Torte de Lini wrote: I probably idolize him because he has strong mechanics, good money management and makes people like you infuriated with anger and jealousy! For a "whiny little bitch", he sure as hell has a decent life with that team house, salary and skillz. Might want to consider the choice of words. but it is stuff you would primarily hear from preteens. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 25 2011 18:55 sopas wrote: but it is stuff you would primarily hear from preteens. God forbid! P.S: You hear it from all walks of life. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5588 Posts
On September 25 2011 17:40 Torte de Lini wrote: For a "whiny little bitch", he sure as hell has a decent life with that team house, salary and skillz. Might want to consider the choice of words. Yeah.... that was exactly his point. I used to think you were a good poster.  | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 25 2011 19:14 Elroi wrote: Yeah.... that was exactly his point. I used to think you were a good poster. I don't understand how that makes him a whiny little bitch. In addition, his real life is video-games and he's getting paid a lot for being a marketable self but also being good at something that is heralded within this community/competition. I don't think anyone would ridicule and shun someone who has social stature, healthy income and a lot of friends, talent (or some sort) and/or skill. He's traveled several parts of the world, won and placed high in a lot of tournament and thousands of people watch his stream and companies want him in their commercials or amongst their products/advertising their products. I'm not a fan of his ex-girlfriend, but I can't deny that she is attractive/worth some social stereotypical stature. I'm confused if I am getting the point of the original quote ._____. So you got:
It's like the recipe for fucking high-school. Whiny bitch isn't even remotely close. | ||
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
On September 25 2011 17:34 okrane wrote: I am browsing this thread and stand here amazed at this phenomenon. People love scandal, bad mannerism, drama and flock to it like little girls to a *bad boy*'s pop concert. I see everyone pretty much stating that "this is the reason" why they love IdrA. Do you love spoiled brats for constant whining? Do you like toxic personalities sprouting unconstructive phrases all over the place? Seriously, why such idolization for such a whiny little bitch? What's even more funny is that, in real life, someone with his behaviour would be at first ridiculed by the entire group, then shun upon and finally completely ignored. But you don't know how he act outside of the game. Plenty of people in sports that can be total a-holes in the sport and be great outside of it. Most people that know him outside of the game say he´s nothing like what he is in the game and are a really nice guy. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 25 2011 19:21 Radook wrote: But you don't know how he act outside of the game. Plenty of people in sports that can be total a-holes in the sport and be great outside of it. Most people that know him outside of the game say he´s nothing like what he is in the game and are a really nice guy. Exactly. I've heard he's one hell of a chill and cool guy. He's pretty professional in most of his interviews, concise and analytical. It's the game, it's what sells and what people associate him with. Like in shitty mainstream movies, people watch or go wanting what they know or expect. Why change the recipe? | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5588 Posts
On September 25 2011 19:18 Torte de Lini wrote: I don't understand how that makes him a whiny little bitch. In addition, his real life is video-games and he's getting paid a lot for being a marketable self but also being good at something that is heralded within this community/competition. I don't think anyone would ridicule and shun someone who has social stature, healthy income and a lot of friends, talent (or some sort) and/or skill. He's traveled several parts of the world, won and placed high in a lot of tournament and thousands of people watch his stream and companies want him in their commercials or amongst their products/advertising their products. I'm not a fan of his ex-girlfriend, but I can't deny that she is attractive/worth some social stereotypical stature. I'm confused if I am getting the point of the original quote ._____. Do you mean that people should stop saying that he is a whining bitch and on decline because he has lots of fans and is playing in a good team? That's like saying that Paris Hilton is intelligent because she has got a lot of money. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 25 2011 19:27 Elroi wrote: Do you mean that people should stop saying that he is a whining bitch and on decline because he has lots of fans and is playing in a good team? That's like saying that Paris Hilton is intelligent because she has got a lot of money. I'm saying "whining bitch" is just a envious technique to demean someone who has clearly done better than you in an aspect you're calling him out on. Choose different words that aren't discrediting or insulting to him as a person, it only makes you look weak and childish. You're no different than the person you frown upon by insulting him as he insults others. Doesn't that make you the "whiny bitch" because people consider his achievements and disregard his associative mannerisms? Like I said: "Might want to consider choosing different words", I'm not declining [I disagree], I'm asking for a better choice of description because what you're saying is just flat-out immature and not proving a point. | ||
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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sopas
509 Posts
On September 25 2011 19:09 Torte de Lini wrote: God forbid! P.S: You hear it from all walks of life. thx cpt. obvious, thats why i said primarily. just weird to me that majority(?) is entertained by stuff like this but nvm idc | ||
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Shinulz
Canada2 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 25 2011 19:49 sopas wrote: thx cpt. obvious, thats why i said primarily. just weird to me that majority(?) is entertained by stuff like this but nvm idc Yeah, weird huh? They actually like something that is against the standard of normal behavior. | ||
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Ero-Sennin
United States756 Posts
On September 20 2011 08:36 AntiGrav1ty wrote: When an athlete in any sports loses to someone who is considered a lot weaker or an underdog they certainly dont say that he is bad after they lose. Nobody ever does that in real sports... Really? They don't? While I don't have any physical proof off hand, I know that when the Steeler's lost an AFC championship game back in the early 2000s when they were the clear favorites, a few players said after the game, "Sometimes the better team doesn't always win." If you've never been around professional athletes, that's fine, but to think they're all, "Well, they played a good game," you're deluding yourself. They'll say that for the media most of the time... but that's not always their real belief. | ||
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ShamTao
United States419 Posts
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 26 2011 03:38 Kira__ wrote: I like how he greets everyone with a hearty "hello everyone" and then proceeds to flame the shit out of everything that moves :D I like how he's almost monotone :b | ||
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redbrain
Northern Ireland117 Posts
It takes really strong mechanics and understanding for anyone to do well. Thats not to say there were really annoying things like DT drops that were the gay'est way possible to loose a game. But in sc2 there is sooooooo much of that. The whole game sc2 is increibly volatile so if you get a strong macro lead on anyone there are really stupid things like collosus banelings and maruders which are just such volatile units that can kind of accidently destory something very cost efficiently and now your loosing stupidly bad. I my opinion sc2 battles all happen so fast everything does so much dmg so fast alot of the time its hard to actually show skill. And coupled with chrono/larva-inject/mules macro leads and often be negated quite fast. I think sc2 has 1 to 2 years growing up before its figured out enough so we can weed out the bad players. and man there are alot of bad players even on the pro scene. The prine thing that i hate pro players doing is not scouting and blindly doing timming X and they can get away with it because its so hard to scout gimicky crap and even with that sometimes its hard to know the cost-efficent response because its all so random yet. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On September 26 2011 03:03 Torte de Lini wrote: Yeah, weird huh? They actually like something that is against the standard of normal behavior. IdrA's in game and SC2 related mannerisms gives off an impression of a self entitled, arrogant "snob" - if it wasn't for the countless pro gamers that vouch for his irl personality then i doubt i would have much time for him. His attitude is as close to the word disgusting as you can get for someone with his ability and while it is hilarious and provides a great laugh, he really just comes across as a bit of a tool. Just my opinion, which has little bearing; You idolize him for his mechanics and macro ability; which is fine - but it's like idolizing Tiger Woods for his golfing ability, but refusing to judge him on his personal actions (again, not a tragedy, but still an incomplete picture.) IdrA's BM != cheating on wife, but i think the concept is still there. Saying that - i love watching him play because of his ability, but his personality is... well, lacking. | ||
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Eroqa150
United States11 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:01 bkrow wrote: IdrA's in game and SC2 related mannerisms gives off an impression of a self entitled, arrogant "snob" - if it wasn't for the countless pro gamers that vouch for his irl personality then i doubt i would have much time for him. His attitude is as close to the word disgusting as you can get for someone with his ability and while it is hilarious and provides a great laugh, he really just comes across as a bit of a tool. Just my opinion, which has little bearing; You idolize him for his mechanics and macro ability; which is fine - but it's like idolizing Tiger Woods for his golfing ability, but refusing to judge him on his personal actions (again, not a tragedy, but still an incomplete picture.) IdrA's BM != cheating on wife, but i think the concept is still there. Saying that - i love watching him play because of his ability, but his personality is... well, lacking. Good thing we are following a personality game-show and not a video game competition. Anyone who plays well and doesn't cheat deserves support, anything else related to "mannerisms" is your own digression that people shouldn't try to push on others on forums. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:05 SafeAsCheese wrote: Good thing we are following a personality game-show and not a video game competition. Anyone who plays well and doesn't cheat deserves support, anything else related to "mannerisms" is your own digression that people shouldn't try to push on others on forums. Lol i tried to make it clear by saying "just my opinion" that i wasn't try to push an idea anywhere, but just stating what i think on the issue - which is pretty much how forums exist; but i appreciate the massive assumption. Like i said, starting to think you didn't quite read the post, i enjoy watching him play, he has an amazing ability - he just comes across as a brat, plain and simple. | ||
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Msrobinson
United States138 Posts
He's bold, blunt, and knows what the heck he talks about. For me, as a viewer and a fan, I love him as a player due to his incredible understanding of the matchups and metagame, in addition to his incredible macro and mouse control. I am a fan of his online personality because of his no bullshit attitude. It's like Jinro thing, people freak out when someone talks bluntly, and I think it just makes them look immature and idiotic. Keep doing what you doing IdrA. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
Again not saying anything about his ability or talent - that is undoubted | ||
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:12 bkrow wrote: Sorry - but people disapproving of someone telling people to go kill themselves or that they are "fucking retarded" are the immature ones? Not the person saying that stuff? It's not about "dealing" with his BM, it's just the perception of his character that it creates.. Again not saying anything about his ability or talent - that is undoubted Pretty much this. The amount of bm that comes out of his mouth during games is terrible, and there is NEVER a reason to bang on like. Saying stuff like you're "Fucking retarded" or "should go kill yourself" is ridiculously immature. It's kind of funny that the people that are so "retarded" are the ones that win against IdrA. If a retarded person beats you, what does that make you? IdrA is definitely NOT retarded, it's just annoying how he carries on and makes it hard to respect the guy. He doesn't seem to handle loss very well, and do you know who else can't handle losing games? Pre-pubescents. As horrible as losing can be some times, you gotta shake it off. I'm not telling IdrA to change, he's been doing it for most of his pro-gaming career and you can't break that habit easily and why would he do it when he has so many fans and money to live on anyway? Good luck to him and his career, but people are allowed to be offended when someone tells them to kill themselves or that they're fucking retarded for no reason other than the fact that you've won fair and square. Yes, every win is fair as long as you aren't hacking or breaking the physics of the game in some way. If you can't hold an all-in, that's YOUR fault. In regards to what bkrow mentioned, I think that you gotta take everything you get told on the Internet, BM or otherwise (including this post, lol) with a grain of salt. It's the Internet, most people are only a small push away from keyboard-warrior-tough-guy when they're behind the screen. But of course you're allowed to be offended when someone says things like that to you, and no it's not immature to be offended when BM that can be compared to raging 12 year olds comes from an adult. Would you take it from someone if they were in person? | ||
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mute20
Canada175 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
he sounds like a nice guy when saying that | ||
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
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zeOllie
Australia486 Posts
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the p00n
Netherlands615 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:33 Maynarde wrote: Pretty much this. The amount of bm that comes out of his mouth during games is terrible, and there is NEVER a reason to bang on like. Saying stuff like you're "Fucking retarded" or "should go kill yourself" is ridiculously immature. It's kind of funny that the people that are so "retarded" are the ones that win against IdrA. If a retarded person beats you, what does that make you? IdrA is definitely NOT retarded, it's just annoying how he carries on and makes it hard to respect the guy. He doesn't seem to handle loss very well, and do you know who else can't handle losing games? Pre-pubescents. As horrible as losing can be some times, you gotta shake it off. I'm not telling IdrA to change, he's been doing it for most of his pro-gaming career and you can't break that habit easily and why would he do it when he has so many fans and money to live on anyway? Good luck to him and his career, but people are allowed to be offended when someone tells them to kill themselves or that they're fucking retarded for no reason other than the fact that you've won fair and square. Yes, every win is fair as long as you aren't hacking or breaking the physics of the game in some way. If you can't hold an all-in, that's YOUR fault. In regards to what bkrow mentioned, I think that you gotta take everything you get told on the Internet, BM or otherwise (including this post, lol) with a grain of salt. It's the Internet, most people are only a small push away from keyboard-warrior-tough-guy when they're behind the screen. But of course you're allowed to be offended when someone says things like that to you, and no it's not immature to be offended when BM that can be compared to raging 12 year olds comes from an adult. Would you take it from someone if they were in person? Although I agree with the rest of your post, these type of sayings HAVE TO STOP. You can easily lose to retarded/noob people while being the better player by far. This is a game of imperfect information, you have to make assumptions every now and then based on the limited information you have. If people are absolutely shit at this game, they may end up doing something which would lose against everything, EXCEPT what you were doing. A great example of this is a 1gate hidden expo with hallucinated units to scare the Terran. A retard may not even react to the immortals and units, even though he has no way of telling them apart from the real ones, and just salvage his bunkers and go attack you - certain death if you were doing a 3gate robo. There are countless examples of this. Yes, you can lose to people with the only factor being that you are good and that he is bad. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:05 SafeAsCheese wrote: Good thing we are following a personality game-show and not a video game competition. Anyone who plays well and doesn't cheat deserves support, anything else related to "mannerisms" is your own digression that people shouldn't try to push on others on forums. Too bad his personality and attitude carry over into the game and fuck him over. | ||
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Imalengrat
Australia365 Posts
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Nyctophobia
Canada99 Posts
That was awesome. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
Don't ever change Idra. | ||
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EndOfLineTv
United States741 Posts
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BishOpmaster
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:58 the p00n wrote: Although I agree with the rest of your post, these type of sayings HAVE TO STOP. You can easily lose to retarded/noob people while being the better player by far. This is a game of imperfect information, you have to make assumptions every now and then based on the limited information you have. If people are absolutely shit at this game, they may end up doing something which would lose against everything, EXCEPT what you were doing. A great example of this is a 1gate hidden expo with hallucinated units to scare the Terran. A retard may not even react to the immortals and units, even though he has no way of telling them apart from the real ones, and just salvage his bunkers and go attack you - certain death if you were doing a 3gate robo. There are countless examples of this. Yes, you can lose to people with the only factor being that you are good and that he is bad. Whoa. Someone who actually "gets it" and is humble enough to say so. Bravo! | ||
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Nosferatos
Norway783 Posts
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
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strength
United States493 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
If 99,9% of his opponents are retards/terrible, he can't be happy when he wins (because it was to be expected) and should feel crushed when he loses (how could I lose against retards!?!). Even if it's just in the back of his head, just subconsciously.... this is not a winner's mentality. And obviously, as roughly 1000 people before me have pointed out - this is what's truly holding him back. | ||
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dreamsmasher
816 Posts
On September 26 2011 15:33 Maynarde wrote: Pretty much this. The amount of bm that comes out of his mouth during games is terrible, and there is NEVER a reason to bang on like. Saying stuff like you're "Fucking retarded" or "should go kill yourself" is ridiculously immature. It's kind of funny that the people that are so "retarded" are the ones that win against IdrA. If a retarded person beats you, what does that make you? IdrA is definitely NOT retarded, it's just annoying how he carries on and makes it hard to respect the guy. He doesn't seem to handle loss very well, and do you know who else can't handle losing games? Pre-pubescents. As horrible as losing can be some times, you gotta shake it off. I'm not telling IdrA to change, he's been doing it for most of his pro-gaming career and you can't break that habit easily and why would he do it when he has so many fans and money to live on anyway? Good luck to him and his career, but people are allowed to be offended when someone tells them to kill themselves or that they're fucking retarded for no reason other than the fact that you've won fair and square. Yes, every win is fair as long as you aren't hacking or breaking the physics of the game in some way. If you can't hold an all-in, that's YOUR fault. In regards to what bkrow mentioned, I think that you gotta take everything you get told on the Internet, BM or otherwise (including this post, lol) with a grain of salt. It's the Internet, most people are only a small push away from keyboard-warrior-tough-guy when they're behind the screen. But of course you're allowed to be offended when someone says things like that to you, and no it's not immature to be offended when BM that can be compared to raging 12 year olds comes from an adult. Would you take it from someone if they were in person? not true at all. you can be worse can edge out a win in this game, you have to be retarded to think the better player always wins. people at the top of competition aren't any different. i guarantee if you put a mic behind everyone's comments while they play the game, you would be surprised, especially at the highest level. this isn't only in games, its in real sports as well -- there is constant shit talk on the game floor. even people with rather clean images -- Jordan comes to mind, were notorious shit talkers. | ||
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Lufkin
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Herr Wilhelm
Chile170 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:01 Nosferatos wrote: Does Idra ever compliment his opponents? Yeah, but they're generally Koreans or people like Naniwa/Stephano. He doesn't really show any respect to 99% of the foreigner scene, for better or for worse. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
I mean if you look at recent IdrA: gg's all around at MLG (even to MC, whom he has been at odds with AND Boxer who cheesed him 4 straight games) TotalBiscuit even said that IdrA and he had made up, and IdrA was no TB fan. Many of the early GG problems have been slowly disappearing since slightly before IEM Guangzhou... When I watch this, I don't go, wow thats a disturbed buy, or that guy is infantile. I go haha lol. Maybe I am infantile too, but I will shit on people when talking to my friends on Skype while in game. -.- I mean by this point its half persona, half habit... | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
that is an epic line gotta love idra TC .. just curious ... Idra being Idra ... did that originate from Manny being Manny ? (Manny Ramirez aka baseball player) | ||
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Zostix
16 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:01 Nosferatos wrote: Does Idra ever compliment his opponents? Even if he didn't come off as an awkward and bitter person, why would he? Most of his fanbase are comprised of people who just want to see a player call another retarded. His fanbase doesn't want to see him compliment players, they just want him to say "hurr he's bad and retarded" whether he wins or loses. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:18 CeriseCherries wrote: -.- Well I think a lot of people decided a while back to become IdrA haters and will now stand by their high-horse flags... I mean if you look at recent IdrA: gg's all around at MLG (even to MC, whom he has been at odds with AND Boxer who cheesed him 4 straight games) TotalBiscuit even said that IdrA and he had made up, and IdrA was no TB fan. Many of the early GG problems have been slowly disappearing since slightly before IEM Guangzhou... When I watch this, I don't go, wow thats a disturbed buy, or that guy is infantile. I go haha lol. Maybe I am infantile too, but I will shit on people when talking to my friends on Skype while in game. -.- I mean by this point its half persona, half habit... People aren't haters because of not GGing etc, people are haters because he has little to no respect for anyone but the best and rarely admits that he's wrong. GGing is actually enforced in the MLG rules and you can get a warning if you don't, he says it in a professional setting because it looks good but ultimately it's two letters that really carry no meaning... It's not like he should leave the scene or anything...some people just don't like immaturity or general disrespect and that's why they don't like IdrA, it's very simple. People have different views. If you don't want people to hate on IdrA fans then don't hate on them back. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:25 Zostix wrote: Even if he didn't come off as an awkward and bitter person, why would he? Most of his fanbase are comprised of people who just want to see a player call another retarded. His fanbase doesn't want to see him compliment players, they just want him to say "hurr he's bad and retarded" whether he wins or loses. Yea you just insulted me. Because I don't watch IdrA to see him rage. I watch him because he is one of the top non-Korean zerg, and he plays a macro style that isn't gimmicky and I can respect the solidity and mechanical skill that I so sorely lack in many occasions. Is it funny when he calls someone doing something silly "fucking retarded"? maybe. But that isn't why most people like IdrA | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:25 Zostix wrote: Even if he didn't come off as an awkward and bitter person, why would he? Most of his fanbase are comprised of people who just want to see a player call another retarded. His fanbase doesn't want to see him compliment players, they just want him to say "hurr he's bad and retarded" whether he wins or loses. I am an Idra fan .... mostly I like seeing someone that is good enough to beat Bomber that comes from the US .... is that ok with you ? | ||
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Smackfools
United States93 Posts
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
All I really got from this video was, Idra just whines win or lose. Hates his job, hates this game. Well here is a tip if you truly feel that way. GET A NEW FUCKING JOB. | ||
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honed
Canada482 Posts
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Neo27
United States154 Posts
All of this from 1 week? I've gotta tune in! | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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Fleebenworth
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MoneyHypeMike
Canada305 Posts
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vojnik
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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Zerste
United States112 Posts
To everybody who thinks IdrA's rage is his only appeal you're only kidding yourself. I love both of the following players, so don't get this next statement twisted but... I watch Destiny for personality. I watch IdrA for ability. | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
I don't know how much he loves the game, but a complete disregard for his position in it is very negative, and creates a bunch of little idra-followers who BM like crazy because idra does, following any negative thing he says as if it were the word of god, and overall hurts the state of the game. This isn't idra's fault, really (he didn't ask for it) but he doesn't really understand that it's his job now. With the power comes the responsibility. He needs to learn to control himself in the public image, because all the "morons" he so often quotes, are very quick to pick up on anything wrong that he says or does. It also does nothing to help the game's image when pro players are as BM as they tend to be. If we, as a community, encouraged new players and mannered play, there would be a lot less resistance for getting SCII more in the spotlight. When it's no longer "angry kids raging in their basements," it can finally come mainstream. So, you guys can like your idra. I'll stick with Sheth if I want Zerg. I don't care if he's a worse player, his attitude and method of handling his status as a pro gamer are leagues better than anything Idra puts forward. Same goes for Jinro, BoxeR, IncontroL, Day9, etc. Sportsmanship (REAL sportsmanship, as Geoff pointed out in an inside the game episode) is the thing that will make or break this game in the public eye. | ||
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:58 Honeybadger wrote: I have a deep lack of respect for IdrA. I'm sure he's a pleasant, friendly dude in person (and probably to anyone not playing him in a game of starcraft) and I love players who say things like they are, but Incontrol does that, IdrA just says whatever makes himself feel better, emotionally lashing out at players. I don't know how much he loves the game, but a complete disregard for his position in it is very negative, and creates a bunch of little idra-followers who BM like crazy because idra does, following any negative thing he says as if it were the word of god, and overall hurts the state of the game. This isn't idra's fault, really (he didn't ask for it) but he doesn't really understand that it's his job now. With the power comes the responsibility. He needs to learn to control himself in the public image, because all the "morons" he so often quotes, are very quick to pick up on anything wrong that he says or does. It also does nothing to help the game's image when pro players are as BM as they tend to be. If we, as a community, encouraged new players and mannered play, there would be a lot less resistance for getting SCII more in the spotlight. When it's no longer "angry kids raging in their basements," it can finally come mainstream. So, you guys can like your idra. I'll stick with Sheth if I want Zerg. I don't care if he's a worse player, his attitude and method of handling his status as a pro gamer are leagues better than anything Idra puts forward. Same goes for Jinro, BoxeR, IncontroL, Day9, etc. Sportsmanship (REAL sportsmanship, as Geoff pointed out in an inside the game episode) is the thing that will make or break this game in the public eye. Whats going to make e-sports work is real genuenly interesting personalties, not more korean style forced politness. People need to express themselves and play their best... If Idra wants to change let him change, as he matures he likely will mellow... but fuck this we all have to be something we're not to make esports work... its going to get big or not on its own merits and a few people here or there are not going to make it or destory it. | ||
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Wafflelisk
Canada1061 Posts
that being said, it does seem like too much at times. (calling Quebecois "off" because he doesnt like playing against 2 or 3 of them) | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:29 CeriseCherries wrote: Yea you just insulted me. Because I don't watch IdrA to see him rage. I watch him because he is one of the top non-Korean zerg, and he plays a macro style that isn't gimmicky and I can respect the solidity and mechanical skill that I so sorely lack in many occasions. Is it funny when he calls someone doing something silly "fucking retarded"? maybe. But that isn't why most people like IdrA Yah I'm an Idra fan who strongly dislikes it when he doesn't GG to respectable people... mostly Boxer. I also hate it when he quits too early. I'm someone who likes someone to fight to the end. But I still like him, especially lately with the better tourney manners and him even staying in a few games later then he would otherwise. Not tilting against Boxer was a big step. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Nice vid  | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3343 Posts
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Valon
United States329 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
Seems like Idra manage to get people to agree on that the only way to show skill in sc2 is to let Idra get 3 bases, mass drones and then start the game, and if someone does not, they are cheesers. but even if Idra gets to 3 bases, if he loses its never ever ever due to the opponent being good. Its always something thats imb, lame or just luck. That mindset just makes you not like Idra at all! He acts like he is the nr1 boss in sc2 and he is just no were close to be. | ||
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FreezingAssassin
United States455 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
maybe vileillusion :/ | ||
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Shanyo
Belgium70 Posts
On November 23 2011 16:14 FreezingAssassin wrote: I love when stupid stuff happens it makes me look smart! LOL Found my new favorite quote thank you IdrA Yea, that one is hilarious :D. | ||
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JonB
Sweden325 Posts
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
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Seanza
171 Posts
"That's our guard dog..." "... she weighs 5 pounds" Gets me every time I watch this video :D | ||
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Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
On November 23 2011 16:01 purpose wrote: This video just makes me not respect Idra at all. The skill he has gets irrelevant when he acts the way he does. He is just to arrogant and bm. I dont see why he has to be like that towards people, its not funny, its not cool its just really arrogant tbh. Seems like Idra manage to get people to agree on that the only way to show skill in sc2 is to let Idra get 3 bases, mass drones and then start the game, and if someone does not, they are cheesers. but even if Idra gets to 3 bases, if he loses its never ever ever due to the opponent being good. Its always something thats imb, lame or just luck. That mindset just makes you not like Idra at all! He acts like he is the nr1 boss in sc2 and he is just no were close to be. well spoken, exactly my opinion. the way idra behaves in public is a no-go in professional sports, i don't care if he plays a role that makes him make more money and might be a nice guy in private. | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:58 Honeybadger wrote: I have a deep lack of respect for IdrA. I'm sure he's a pleasant, friendly dude in person (and probably to anyone not playing him in a game of starcraft) and I love players who say things like they are, but Incontrol does that, IdrA just says whatever makes himself feel better, emotionally lashing out at players. I don't know how much he loves the game, but a complete disregard for his position in it is very negative, and creates a bunch of little idra-followers who BM like crazy because idra does, following any negative thing he says as if it were the word of god, and overall hurts the state of the game. This isn't idra's fault, really (he didn't ask for it) but he doesn't really understand that it's his job now. With the power comes the responsibility. He needs to learn to control himself in the public image, because all the "morons" he so often quotes, are very quick to pick up on anything wrong that he says or does. It also does nothing to help the game's image when pro players are as BM as they tend to be. If we, as a community, encouraged new players and mannered play, there would be a lot less resistance for getting SCII more in the spotlight. When it's no longer "angry kids raging in their basements," it can finally come mainstream. So, you guys can like your idra. I'll stick with Sheth if I want Zerg. I don't care if he's a worse player, his attitude and method of handling his status as a pro gamer are leagues better than anything Idra puts forward. Same goes for Jinro, BoxeR, IncontroL, Day9, etc. Sportsmanship (REAL sportsmanship, as Geoff pointed out in an inside the game episode) is the thing that will make or break this game in the public eye. This whole post wreaks of you trying to persuade readers to view your opinion as fact. Every time someone posts about how sportsmanship is supposed to be the key element in the growth of Starcraft 2, I can't help but think how small of a role it plays given their is little viewer/crowd emphasis on it. If anything, it adds excitement and drama as opposed to your implied view that it's detrimental. | ||
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freestalker
469 Posts
On November 27 2011 21:01 Swiv wrote: well spoken, exactly my opinion. the way idra behaves in public is a no-go in professional sports, i don't care if he plays a role that makes him make more money and might be a nice guy in private. What? AFAIK Idra has been pretty GM recently. And I hope you won't start persuading me that no GG at the end of game is BM. Many other people swear at their streams and no one cares. I also swear when I get 3 games in a row where in 1 I get cannon rushed, in 2 I get banshee rushed and in 3 I get voidray rushed. I don't swear a lot, but I do, because I ventilate my disappointment. There are much worse people that break keyboards and mice. Idra is pretty cool headed. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
v funny vid ... altho a little unfair | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Classic IdrA. | ||
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
Not sure who is worst T_T | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 23 2011 16:01 purpose wrote: This video just makes me not respect Idra at all. The skill he has gets irrelevant when he acts the way he does. He is just to arrogant and bm. I dont see why he has to be like that towards people, its not funny, its not cool its just really arrogant tbh. Seems like Idra manage to get people to agree on that the only way to show skill in sc2 is to let Idra get 3 bases, mass drones and then start the game, and if someone does not, they are cheesers. but even if Idra gets to 3 bases, if he loses its never ever ever due to the opponent being good. Its always something thats imb, lame or just luck. That mindset just makes you not like Idra at all! He acts like he is the nr1 boss in sc2 and he is just no were close to be. Hum, this video actually really makes me like IdrA lol | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On November 27 2011 21:35 Hunterai wrote: People actually like/praise him for doing this? Not sure who is worst T_T appreantly the ones who take it too seriously. On November 27 2011 21:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Hum, this video actually really makes me like IdrA lol <3 ;P | ||
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Dezire
Netherlands640 Posts
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Disquiet
Australia628 Posts
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transience
Belgium74 Posts
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sorrowptoss
Canada1431 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On November 27 2011 21:48 Disquiet wrote: It makes him look incredibly delusional. Its more sad than anything, that arrogant attitude is probably holding him back quite badly, the early gg's vs MMA & huk were the only indication in tournaments about his mental state but now I see this... I mean its funny but probably not the best way to think about things if you want to be the best player in the world. ...He was joking in almost all of it. He's going for a persona which people find funny and makes him stand out on the Internet. He isn't actually a complete bastard with no love for other human beings. ... | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
Fortunately unlike most people with that character trait, he is not a fool himself | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On November 27 2011 21:52 sorrowptoss wrote: I wonder if he talks to himeself the same way in that MLG booth.. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dYOd8.gif) ;P | ||
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
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StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
This guy is amazing for e-sports at the moment. My favorite quote "He's French Canadian. So he's gonna do a fast expand, into zealot timing, into something else gay. " No racism, just his experience. | ||
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bigbeau
368 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:19 Tobberoth wrote: The big question is why he still plays the game when he hates it, and plays Zerg when he hates it. He's just saying it way to often to be considered a joke. because he likes competition, and money | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:14 TRaFFiC wrote: All the people saying it's holding him back, you're just nubs. That's what works for him. He's left 2-3 tournament games he could've won. Big deal. The rest he left because he was DEAD. That's his style. This guy is amazing for e-sports at the moment. My favorite quote "He's French Canadian. So he's gonna do a fast expand, into zealot timing, into something else gay. " No racism, just his experience. actually, his style is not counting on his enemy to make silly mistakes that will make him comeback if he is behind. thats why he left early against MMA, he was sure MMA gonna macro a big second marine tank wave... its sad to see him leave early, but i hope boxer and the slayers guys will force the korean head-set mentality into idrA Never giveup, Never surrender! | ||
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OrChard
Hong Kong1119 Posts
such a funny video | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:19 Tobberoth wrote: The big question is why he still plays the game when he hates it, and plays Zerg when he hates it. He's just saying it way to often to be considered a joke. Yeah poor guy, he is winning a lot of money playing a video game, living in an awesome house with his friends and traveling around the world. I can't understand why he still plays starcraft. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On November 27 2011 21:22 MrTortoise wrote: Idra reminds me of mike matusow ... however i cant make my mind up if i like him or not v funny vid ... altho a little unfair No offence to Mike, but Idra strikes me as way smarter. Mike blabbers a lot too, Idra seems pretty quietly spoken. | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:40 0ne wrote: Yeah poor guy, he is winning a lot of money playing a video game, living in an awesome house with his friends and traveling around the world. I can't understand why he still plays starcraft. i lol'd can't remember if i posted my <3 for this vid yet when it came out...but just in case... <3 | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:21 damod wrote: actually, his style is not counting on his enemy to make silly mistakes that will make him comeback if he is behind. thats why he left early against MMA, he was sure MMA gonna macro a big second marine tank wave... its sad to see him leave early, but i hope boxer and the slayers guys will force the korean head-set mentality into idrA Never giveup, Never surrender! Honestly that was a facepalm moment but I facepalm more when people stay in the game after they obviously know that they have lost. Then they end up losing it 8 minutes later (despite the hype produced by the casters) | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On November 27 2011 22:40 0ne wrote: Yeah poor guy, he is winning a lot of money playing a video game, living in an awesome house with his friends and traveling around the world. I can't understand why he still plays starcraft. Tbh he probably really loves playing starcraft as well. I mean this is the same guy that would bitch and whine about protoss and balance in brood war, while at the same time staying in korea on a small salary in a house with about 10 guys he wasn't able to communicate with. | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Inertia_EU
United Kingdom513 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On November 27 2011 23:04 Subversive wrote: No offence to Mike, but Idra strikes me as way smarter. Mike blabbers a lot too, Idra seems pretty quietly spoken. Much more like Phil Hellmouth. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
His stream seems great and that was a really fun video thx for making it | ||
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SirDawid
Sweden83 Posts
nice video, +1 for the subtitles since grack occasionally mumbles | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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TheTurk
United States732 Posts
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
(to the guy who fucked up the bunker rush, his bunkers were out of range of the hatchery) I don't know if he fucked that up...or he's retarded or what." These two make me burst into tears from laughing :D I love the way Idra speaks, it almost feels like House MD. | ||
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JonB
Sweden325 Posts
this makes my day. everyday. | ||
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Greenishmilk
Australia33 Posts
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:08 FlyingDike wrote: Idra thinks he's better than he actually is...It's kinda sad. Lol, and how good is he actually, oh informed one? | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
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They_
Japan62 Posts
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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TimeRunnerS
Denmark164 Posts
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zHarveLi
Belgium29 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:08 FlyingDike wrote: Idra thinks he's better than he actually is...It's kinda sad. Don't think that's true at all, actually, he doesn't even rate himself as the star of EG so really, the guy is actually quite realistic 'bout himself, you're just hating on him because it IS him, that's even more sad. | ||
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:13 SC2NeCro wrote: Lol, and how good is he actually, oh informed one? Oh lord.. and a delusional fanboy comes in his defense.. I can name about 40 players that are better than him in almost every single way, including multitasking, micro, macro, and decision making. MVP is 5x as good as idra, and even MVP is a mediocre player compared to bw pros. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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zHarveLi
Belgium29 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:32 FlyingDike wrote: Oh lord.. and a delusional fanboy comes in his defense.. I can name about 40 players that are better than him in almost every single way, including multitasking, micro, macro, and decision making. MVP is 5x as good as idra, and even MVP is a mediocre player compared to bw pros. you can stop right there as this isn't about bw nor does bw have anything to do with this. & calling the other guy a delusional fanboy, maybe he is a fanboy but calling him delusional without him having said anything delusional is a bit silly. idra's a guy you either like or hate, it's quite obvious it's the latter one with you but that still doesn't mean you can just start insulting people who actually like him, whether they're delusional or not. | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
Listen I'm not a fanboy but IdrA is way better than everyone | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:32 FlyingDike wrote: Oh lord.. and a delusional fanboy comes in his defense.. I can name about 40 players that are better than him in almost every single way, including multitasking, micro, macro, and decision making. MVP is 5x as good as idra, and even MVP is a mediocre player compared to bw pros. Of all the threads to introduce BW vs SC2 to, one involving Idra is really a bad choice. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1538 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:32 zHarveLi wrote: Don't think that's true at all, actually, he doesn't even rate himself as the star of EG so really, the guy is actually quite realistic 'bout himself, you're just hating on him because it IS him, that's even more sad. He says that he is really good here: But, he's actually aweful and bashes people who are at his skill level. If idra says a player is good, it's because that player is several times better than him (ie MMA). I like to imagine idra as a frustrated, little boy with emotional problems, ranting and whining every time things don't go his way. This video highlights that aspect and will always be a gem to the Starcraft community. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:32 FlyingDike wrote: Oh lord.. and a delusional fanboy comes in his defense.. I can name about 40 players that are better than him in almost every single way, including multitasking, micro, macro, and decision making. MVP is 5x as good as idra, and even MVP is a mediocre player compared to bw pros. If anyone is delusional it's you, there are NOT 40 sc2 pros that are better in every single way than him, maybe 40 better players, but not in every aspect. If we include BW pros there would be way more than 40, but with the current sc2 competition he is pretty close to the top. On December 27 2011 01:45 FlyingDike wrote: He says that he is really good here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZ6pkm2wOU But, he's actually aweful and bashes people who are at his skill level. If idra says a player is good, it's because that player is several times better than him (ie MMA). I like to imagine idra as a frustrated, little boy with emotional problems, ranting and whining every time things don't go his way. This video highlights that aspect and will always be a gem to the Starcraft community. Oh, I get it now. You're a delusional anti-fan, makes sense now. He IS really good, and at that time he was probably a top 15 player in the world. He didn't say "I'm the best player in the world" so your link does nothing to strengthen your argument. And if he's "awful" and still winning international tournaments, well, I don't know what you define "good" as. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:45 FlyingDike wrote: He says that he is really good here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZ6pkm2wOU But, he's actually aweful and bashes people who are at his skill level. If idra says a player is good, it's because that player is several times better than him (ie MMA). I like to imagine idra as a frustrated, little boy with emotional problems, ranting and whining every time things don't go his way. This video highlights that aspect and will always be a gem to the Starcraft community. If he's so bad, why does he consistently do well in tournaments? (recently obviously after his slump) | ||
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:38 zHarveLi wrote: you can stop right there as this isn't about bw nor does bw have anything to do with this. & calling the other guy a delusional fanboy, maybe he is a fanboy but calling him delusional without him having said anything delusional is a bit silly. idra's a guy you either like or hate, it's quite obvious it's the latter one with you but that still doesn't mean you can just start insulting people who actually like him, whether they're delusional or not. You're right. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have assumed that without further evidence. On December 27 2011 01:39 SeaSwift wrote: Of all the threads to introduce BW vs SC2 to, one involving Idra is really a bad choice. I think you're right, but I'm only referring to raw skill. | ||
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zHarveLi
Belgium29 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:45 FlyingDike wrote: He says that he is really good here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZ6pkm2wOU But, he's actually aweful and bashes people who are at his skill level. If idra says a player is good, it's because that player is several times better than him (ie MMA). I like to imagine idra as a frustrated, little boy with emotional problems, ranting and whining every time things don't go his way. This video highlights that aspect and will always be a gem to the Starcraft community. If you think one or two videos prove you right about him lmao but then again, you just can't stand him for whatever the reason may be so there's no point in talking some sense into you as that's just impossible. If you look at his interviews & you have any kind of decent experience in starcraft then you know that most things that he brings up about sc2 is pretty much spot on, unless you're hating him so much you can't even see that. Oh well, i'll be the smart one in this little discussion & call it quits right here, would rather not see another reply coming from the likes of you. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:48 Skwid1g wrote: If anyone is delusional it's you, there are NOT 40 sc2 pros that are better in every single way than him, maybe 40 better players, but not in every aspect. If we include BW pros there would be way more than 40, but with the current sc2 competition he is pretty close to the top. Oh, I get it now. You're a delusional anti-fan, makes sense now. He IS really good, and at that time he was probably a top 15 player in the world. He didn't say "I'm the best player in the world" so your link does nothing to strengthen your argument. And if he's "awful" and still winning international tournaments, well, I don't know what you define "good" as. he hasn't won anything for a while though and arguably hasn't ever won a major tourney with proper koreans etc | ||
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:52 FlyingDike wrote: You're right. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have assumed that without further evidence. I think you're right, but I'm only referring to raw skill. Rofl, wtf is "Raw Skill" How in the hell do you define that? Flash has 22 skill points, where as idra only has 15? | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On December 27 2011 02:02 mememolly wrote: he hasn't won anything for a while though and arguably hasn't ever won a major tourney with proper koreans etc But fact is there aren't 40 players who have. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
On December 27 2011 01:32 FlyingDike wrote: Oh lord.. and a delusional fanboy comes in his defense.. I can name about 40 players that are better than him in almost every single way, including multitasking, micro, macro, and decision making. MVP is 5x as good as idra, and even MVP is a mediocre player compared to bw pros. So, you didn't actually give any reasons of why he's worse than he thinks he is, you just stated your opinions. Good to know you can't come up with even a half-decent argument. | ||
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OzkanTheFlip
United States246 Posts
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Seiferz
United States640 Posts
On December 27 2011 02:05 Bonkarooni wrote: Rofl, wtf is "Raw Skill" How in the hell do you define that? Flash has 22 skill points, where as idra only has 15? lol that was exactly what i was thinking when i read that. btw its the same video, quality is just really bad at start. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
On December 29 2011 06:19 OzkanTheFlip wrote: this video has been out for quite awhile..except this one is way worse quality What? | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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OzkanTheFlip
United States246 Posts
this video was made and released way way back when idra did his "streaming with commentary week", i dont know why this guy posted such a old video in worse quality then the original | ||
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HeliBadger
538 Posts
On December 29 2011 09:13 OzkanTheFlip wrote: this video was made and released way way back when idra did his "streaming with commentary week", i dont know why this guy posted such a old video in worse quality then the original You have no idea what you're talking about. If you actually looked at the date of the OP, you'd see that it was posted the week after that commentary week, and it's an original post. The poster of this thread is the maker of the video. I should know, given it was me who made it. Please stop propagating false information and instead, keep your ignorance to yourself. Mods, please ban this person for either ignorance or trolling. | ||
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
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Cupine
Canada51 Posts
^_^ thanks for posting. | ||
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