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EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
September 17 2011 12:31 GMT
#81
not only was he a hacker but iirc he didnt even have the decency to apologize and just passed it off as "lol whateves i was just having fun fuck you".
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 14:49:43
September 17 2011 14:43 GMT
#82
edit
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#83
On September 17 2011 05:18 Azide wrote:
How so? I'm curious to have an example of where you felt we abused the races. As PP it feels like we are constantly at a disadvantage and lack map control (big understatement). Like I said, people do what they have to do to win. A lot of the time we try to play macro style. And we've lost a lot in a macro style game vs TZ/PZ teams like mystik/illusive and power/protech. PP isn't a one build order and you're set type of matchup we have to do something different each matchup, each map. As maps improve, this should change though.


There is so much cheese you can do to me as a Zerg and also i cant apply early pressue due to mass sentry + gate wall off. Also if i go macro style you can feed one for mass voidray and Zergs anti air sucks vs 4 base Protoss when im on 2 You are very good so nothing against your skill level but i think you know what i mean.
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
September 17 2011 14:59 GMT
#84
On September 17 2011 23:56 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 05:18 Azide wrote:
How so? I'm curious to have an example of where you felt we abused the races. As PP it feels like we are constantly at a disadvantage and lack map control (big understatement). Like I said, people do what they have to do to win. A lot of the time we try to play macro style. And we've lost a lot in a macro style game vs TZ/PZ teams like mystik/illusive and power/protech. PP isn't a one build order and you're set type of matchup we have to do something different each matchup, each map. As maps improve, this should change though.


There is so much cheese you can do to me as a Zerg and also i cant apply early pressue due to mass sentry + gate wall off. Also if i go macro style you can feed one for mass voidray and Zergs anti air sucks vs 4 base Protoss when im on 2 You are very good so nothing against your skill level but i think you know what i mean.


So you are how ranked?
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
September 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#85
Muscles glasses
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:03:19
September 17 2011 15:02 GMT
#86
Im high ranked Masters, finished like 9th in NA and 26th Global last season. Azide and Superninja are hands down the best PP team, while i agree vs a T i believe PP may struggle but vs a Zerg id like to know more on this . I think out of the multiple times ive played them ive managed 1 or 2 wins and i try to think of a counter to it but i dont see it possibly.

Also that 400 supply death ball you get to in late game is like unstoppable.
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 17 2011 15:11 GMT
#87
On September 17 2011 18:32 Kennigit wrote:
lol Xeris, i don't think you can say "i believe in innocent until proven guilty" when there is a history of hacking haha.

Either way, they did well in PSTL, congrats on the pick up.


Think he is referring to his sc2 career.

Some1 said about TT1 that has showed to be fair in sc2, and the same reasoning goes for executor, not a single proof but protech whining like a crybaby even winning (he's so cocky he might think he is that good, he wins even cheating opponents)


Nice addition Xeris!
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
September 17 2011 15:13 GMT
#88
On September 18 2011 00:02 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Im high ranked Masters, finished like 9th in NA and 26th Global last season. Azide and Superninja are hands down the best PP team, while i agree vs a T i believe PP may struggle but vs a Zerg id like to know more on this . I think out of the multiple times ive played them ive managed 1 or 2 wins and i try to think of a counter to it but i dont see it possibly.

Also that 400 supply death ball you get to in late game is like unstoppable.


You have heard of rauder/ling pushes and similar things? Guess not...
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:19:37
September 17 2011 15:16 GMT
#89
On September 18 2011 00:13 Skillver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:02 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Im high ranked Masters, finished like 9th in NA and 26th Global last season. Azide and Superninja are hands down the best PP team, while i agree vs a T i believe PP may struggle but vs a Zerg id like to know more on this . I think out of the multiple times ive played them ive managed 1 or 2 wins and i try to think of a counter to it but i dont see it possibly.

Also that 400 supply death ball you get to in late game is like unstoppable.


You have heard of rauder/ling pushes and similar things? Guess not...


Ah yes the AUTO win vs mass sentry and stalkers and cannons! I totally forgot about that!
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 17 2011 15:30 GMT
#90
On September 17 2011 18:32 Kennigit wrote:
lol Xeris, i don't think you can say "i believe in innocent until proven guilty" when there is a history of hacking haha.

Either way, they did well in PSTL, congrats on the pick up.


Really, Kennigit? Has he hacked in SC2? What about TT1, Spades, LastShadow? All of those guys have proven that just because you hacked in BW, it doesn't have to translate over to SC2. That argument is so stupid... hacking in 2006 and playing SC2 in 2011. Huge divide.

I've been talking to them for over a month, and didn't make this decision lightly.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:41:14
September 17 2011 15:38 GMT
#91
On September 18 2011 00:16 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 00:13 Skillver wrote:
On September 18 2011 00:02 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Im high ranked Masters, finished like 9th in NA and 26th Global last season. Azide and Superninja are hands down the best PP team, while i agree vs a T i believe PP may struggle but vs a Zerg id like to know more on this . I think out of the multiple times ive played them ive managed 1 or 2 wins and i try to think of a counter to it but i dont see it possibly.

Also that 400 supply death ball you get to in late game is like unstoppable.


You have heard of rauder/ling pushes and similar things? Guess not...


Ah yes the AUTO win vs mass sentry and stalkers and cannons! I totally forgot about that!


not really on a lot of the maps you cant do anything about it because you wont have enough sentries fast enough for the wide ramps. OR, the ramps are too small at the bottom to block (tempest comes to mind). you can build 3 cannons max but as soon as the gate and forge are killed by marauders the lings have a field day running by once the 1 or 2 sentries u have by that time are out of energy. not to mention your gateway is dead so you cant keep making units until your 2nd and 3rd one are up which will be just around the time yours dies. even roach marauder... its very very very possible to lose, and hard to hold

if you dont scout a proxy perfectly or know what they are doing, you lose quit easily its simple as that. the fact that you are zerg means we cant just leave our bases whenever we want and expand in fear of being surrounded by mass mass lings and then a moved with stim by a terran or something similar

the worst is u scout a proxy and they dont go all in with it so you prepare, u mass cannons, u get some kinda tech out... but its faked pressure and they are both expanding and macroing up and you have a useless amount of cannons at your natural.


Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 15:41:06
September 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#92
delete plz
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#93
Like i said Azide, much respect for you as a player, def a top 2v2 player imo. I just feel PP is not as weak as you think coming from a Zergs perspective.
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
September 17 2011 15:47 GMT
#94
Cannons don't help anyway, because the opponents can just go reaper and then ur screwed.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
September 17 2011 15:57 GMT
#95
can't stop proxy marauders and lings? all you have to do is have one or both of you 2 gate zealot. zealots destroy that crappy strategy i haven't lose to marauder ling in so long

Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
September 17 2011 16:02 GMT
#96
Well I don't play PP, but I point out my feelings as a PT team. Well we shouldn't abuse this thread for some 2v2 balance discussions
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
September 17 2011 16:08 GMT
#97
GJ fanatic for picking the most recidive maphacker in SC1. He was caught hacking for years and when you speak to him about it this is what he has to say: "It's just a game, chill bro, I don't care". Really bad move there, we should exclude these players from competitions.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
September 17 2011 16:10 GMT
#98
On September 18 2011 01:02 Skillver wrote:
Well I don't play PP, but I point out my feelings as a PT team. Well we shouldn't abuse this thread for some 2v2 balance discussions


This.

More congratulations/speculation on whether or not eXeCuToR is actually haXeCuToR.

First off, Congrats.

Secondly, a few friends and I have our own personal speculations on just how 'legit' eXeCuToR is. But we haven't yet put it all together to see if there is anything that's actually SUBSTANTIAL rather than, well...speculation.

So for now, once again Congrats on the new additions to your team.
<3 Moonbattles
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
September 17 2011 16:12 GMT
#99
On September 18 2011 00:57 hipsterHobbit wrote:
can't stop proxy marauders and lings? all you have to do is have one or both of you 2 gate zealot. zealots destroy that crappy strategy i haven't lose to marauder ling in so long



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ok ill stop with the balance discussion. too many trollevels
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
September 17 2011 16:16 GMT
#100
lets keep this thread balance free azide! congrats fnatic do.o
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