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rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
September 16 2011 19:33 GMT
#21
eXeCuToR will always be tainted by the fact he was a cheater in SC:BW, and rightly so.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 16 2011 19:33 GMT
#22
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#

Like fnatic.TT1?
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
September 16 2011 19:34 GMT
#23
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


Obviously he's concerned about his professionalism as a representative of the team. Getting defensive about it is probably not going to help as much as a generic "He's changed his ways and is dedicated to becoming a better person" comment.

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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
September 16 2011 19:34 GMT
#24
isn't TT1 like 5-0 in 2v2 EGMC clan wars thingy?
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 16 2011 19:42 GMT
#25
On September 17 2011 04:34 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


Obviously he's concerned about his professionalism as a representative of the team. Getting defensive about it is probably not going to help as much as a generic "He's changed his ways and is dedicated to becoming a better person" comment.



I'm not defensive at all... but bringing up stuff that people did years ago isn't really helpful? TT1 used to hack, Lastshadow cheated, Spades was banned as a cheater, and there are various others as well. All of the above mentioned people have solid reputations in SC2 and are well known for being honest gamers today.

Therefore, what point does bringing up someone's past have to do with this discussion. New game, new year, new era.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 16 2011 19:42 GMT
#26
On September 17 2011 04:34 ReignFayth wrote:
isn't TT1 like 5-0 in 2v2 EGMC clan wars thingy?


He is... read my earlier post.
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pavement ist rad
Profile Joined January 2007
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 19:44:31
September 16 2011 19:42 GMT
#27
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


eXeCuToR was caught hacking in SCBW and TeamWizards' recent performance in PTSL has been called into question by members of the 2v2 community (namely Protech) also for possibly hacking. Anyone who watched PTSL knows the questionable play to which I am referring.

In light of this information, do you wish to make another comment about their trustworthiness?
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 16 2011 19:45 GMT
#28
protech calls a lot of people hackers and just because he /danced or w/e doesn't mean hes hacking lol
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 16 2011 19:46 GMT
#29
On September 17 2011 04:42 pavement ist rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


eXeCuToR was caught hacking in SCBW and TeamWizards' recent performance in PTSL has been called into question by members of the 2v2 community (namely Protech) also for possibly hacking. Anyone who watched PTSL knows the questionable play to which I am referring.

In light of this information, do you wish to make another comment about their trustworthiness?


I followed that entire debate, yes.
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pavement ist rad
Profile Joined January 2007
United States226 Posts
September 16 2011 19:48 GMT
#30
On September 17 2011 04:46 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 04:42 pavement ist rad wrote:
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


eXeCuToR was caught hacking in SCBW and TeamWizards' recent performance in PTSL has been called into question by members of the 2v2 community (namely Protech) also for possibly hacking. Anyone who watched PTSL knows the questionable play to which I am referring.

In light of this information, do you wish to make another comment about their trustworthiness?


I followed that entire debate, yes.


Ok, tight. I personally never thought the incident was very convincing so I have no strong opinions. I hope the 2v2 community grows. I LOVE FNATIC!!!!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 16 2011 19:50 GMT
#31
On September 17 2011 04:48 pavement ist rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 04:46 Xeris wrote:
On September 17 2011 04:42 pavement ist rad wrote:
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


eXeCuToR was caught hacking in SCBW and TeamWizards' recent performance in PTSL has been called into question by members of the 2v2 community (namely Protech) also for possibly hacking. Anyone who watched PTSL knows the questionable play to which I am referring.

In light of this information, do you wish to make another comment about their trustworthiness?


I followed that entire debate, yes.


Ok, tight. I personally never thought the incident was very convincing so I have no strong opinions. I hope the 2v2 community grows. I LOVE FNATIC!!!!


I've been in communication with the Wizards guys for over a month, when they first approached me, I've been following their results on ladder and of course in the PTSL. I believe in being innocent until proven guilty, and I believe that there is nowhere near conclusive enough evidence to make any valid assumptions about them cheating
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ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
September 16 2011 19:50 GMT
#32
I dunno executor but me and iezael used to 2v2 a lot on iCCup. Good player, and I love to see teams pick up 2v2 teams in the hopes that it will develop and become a more viable competitive matchup.
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 16 2011 19:56 GMT
#33
On September 17 2011 04:04 gullberg wrote:
There's a 2v2 scene?

Gz IeZaeL and eXeCuToR.


Sc2 is still a baby .. in every clan wars , country matches etc are 2vs2 Games.
Whit time 2vs2 will be more and more popular
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Floobie
Profile Joined February 2011
England296 Posts
September 16 2011 20:03 GMT
#34
Love it. After watching the PSTL 2v2 deffinately has caught my attention as something worthy of watching and developing!

Cant wait to see what these 2 have in store (Although Fnatics 2v2 so far has hardly been weak!)
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 16 2011 20:04 GMT
#35
Wizards such a great 2v2 team, congratulations on the pickup! Great, great players.
MattO1337
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
September 16 2011 20:11 GMT
#36
On September 17 2011 04:32 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 04:31 JiYan wrote:
im assuming this is only going to be effective online. i dont think fnatic would send these players to LANs


If there ever happened to be a really big 2v2 LAN... we'd send them. Unfortunately this doesn't exist right now =[

I currently have something in the works, I plan on using my lan center to host 2v2 tournaments soon. We only have 8 pc's right now, but once we get about 14-20 I feel that's enough to host an invite only 2v2 lan. The problem of course now is just finding money.
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DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 16 2011 20:14 GMT
#37
i played them several times with an random mate (rt) and i gotta say, that all they do is abuse the current strengh of T Z earlygame. Strange decision by fnatic in my opinion, but best of luck to them. maybe i got the wrong impression after all.
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Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:22:36
September 16 2011 20:18 GMT
#38
^ I gotta agree here. Being a PP team you realize it is just so easy to be abused by TZ teams and it's quite hard to stop on a lot of the maps. I respect TZ teams a lot more when their play tries to encourage a macro game or atleast a game longer than 5 minutes. I understand doing what you have to do to win, but I feel as maps for 2v2 improve, a lot of that "cheese/all in" style play from teams won't be as effective and some teams that abuse that will fall from the spotlight.
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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
September 16 2011 20:31 GMT
#39
This is really cool. I like that 2v2 keeps getting more attention. It's a really fun game type and still works well enough to have competitive teams.

The 2v2 atmosphere is currently so far behind the 1v1 that it's almost impossible to compare the two. 2v2 still has a LONG way to go, but with stuff like this happening it's gaining ground quickly, Once there's a good competitive setting for 2v2 we'll see things improving. Hell, compare old GSLs to the current ones and you'll see how poor play and cheesy play dominated the first couple, and suddenly things began to improve.

So it's really great to see Fnatic doing this!
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:50:26
September 16 2011 20:49 GMT
#40
On September 17 2011 05:18 Azide wrote:
^ I gotta agree here. Being a PP team you realize it is just so easy to be abused by TZ teams and it's quite hard to stop on a lot of the maps. I respect TZ teams a lot more when their play tries to encourage a macro game or atleast a game longer than 5 minutes. I understand doing what you have to do to win, but I feel as maps for 2v2 improve, a lot of that "cheese/all in" style play from teams won't be as effective and some teams that abuse that will fall from the spotlight.



You abuse the hell out of PP vs me in 2v2 Random Team


Also very good pickup. They are better then protech team but just lacked the practice. One of the best 2v2 teams.
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