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FnaticMSI Adds 2v2 Team: IeZaeL + eXeCuToR - Page 3

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NapoleonBonaparte
Profile Joined September 2011
France64 Posts
September 16 2011 20:52 GMT
#41
old bw maphackers...
HotS...
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
September 16 2011 20:53 GMT
#42
Grats to the both of them
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:58:06
September 16 2011 20:55 GMT
#43
On September 17 2011 05:49 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 05:18 Azide wrote:
^ I gotta agree here. Being a PP team you realize it is just so easy to be abused by TZ teams and it's quite hard to stop on a lot of the maps. I respect TZ teams a lot more when their play tries to encourage a macro game or atleast a game longer than 5 minutes. I understand doing what you have to do to win, but I feel as maps for 2v2 improve, a lot of that "cheese/all in" style play from teams won't be as effective and some teams that abuse that will fall from the spotlight.



You abuse the hell out of PP vs me in 2v2 Random Team


Also very good pickup. They are better then protech team but just lacked the practice. One of the best 2v2 teams.



How so? I'm curious to have an example of where you felt we abused the races. As PP it feels like we are constantly at a disadvantage and lack map control (big understatement). Like I said, people do what they have to do to win. A lot of the time we try to play macro style. And we've lost a lot in a macro style game vs TZ/PZ teams like mystik/illusive and power/protech. PP isn't a one build order and you're set type of matchup we have to do something different each matchup, each map. As maps improve, this should change though.

Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
September 16 2011 20:59 GMT
#44
These guys rampaged the PTSL, losing first round, then making it to the finals through the lower bracket to lose to PowerTech in the finals.

Very impressive. Congrats to them and Fnatic.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
September 16 2011 21:01 GMT
#45
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#

He's been caught SO many times. Again and again and again. What the hell Xeris.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
September 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#46
I don't get it ^^
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
September 16 2011 21:06 GMT
#47
On September 17 2011 06:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#

He's been caught SO many times. Again and again and again. What the hell Xeris.

Agreed with jimminy_kriket. I think it's a pity that repeated previous offenses are just completely washed away regardless of what they've proved about themselves in the past. Executor was also known for his extreme bm towards admins and other competitors and was banned a lot of times for gratuitous flaming as well as hacking.
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
September 16 2011 21:23 GMT
#48
Love that you are supporting multiplayer - Would love to learn the advanced strategies for it

Not happy about u picking up BM hackers (if that is true)
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:33:57
September 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#49
This is a real shame, Executor is probably the worst hacker from bw and a huge douche on top of that.
He has ruined so many cw and his resume is atrocious. All of his achievements because of mh...

Btw IeZael = KiLLaH ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
September 16 2011 21:38 GMT
#50
Yea I don't know how I feel about this...these guys shouldn't just get a fresh new start in sc2 just because it's a new game considering how bad they were (at least executor was) in bw.

In general I like the Fnatic team but I really question this decision. However, it's not for me to decide, so good luck Fnatic!
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:43:49
September 16 2011 21:42 GMT
#51
Its not just eXeCuToR

IeZaeL was banned too because he maphacked.
http://starcraft2.ingame.de/forum/archive/index.php/t-174211.html
( http://www.gosugamers.net/general/thread/470347-the-gg-net-blacklist )

I have nothing against Iezael at all btw.

Xeris why people brings this up is because most of them never forgives a maphacker. Its not that eXeCuToR did it just once he did it more than once. And got caught every time of them.

Spades never cheated, he maphacked. And yes hes matured now but some people thinks without proof that some people doesn't really change.

Anyways gl too executor/iezael i like these guys
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
September 16 2011 21:52 GMT
#52
Sorry to be negative but the past cannot simply be washed away. Executor was a dbag (and that is putting it lightly) in BW. It's just strange to see a respectable organization recruit someone whose resume is HIGHLY tainted.

I want the 2v2 scene to grow but I would hope for better ambassadors.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
September 16 2011 21:53 GMT
#53
On September 17 2011 06:23 Roxy wrote:
Love that you are supporting multiplayer - Would love to learn the advanced strategies for it

Not happy about u picking up BM hackers (if that is true)

Not to be a dick but doesn't TT1 ring a bell?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:56:52
September 16 2011 21:55 GMT
#54
On September 17 2011 04:26 Xeris wrote:
So were a ton of people who are currently good/known/reputable in SC2 ? What's your point #_#


I think his point is that you have 3 people on your team who were hackers...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
September 16 2011 22:00 GMT
#55
i remember when having every other letter in your name capitalized was the cool thing to do...

PS: it looks dumb
elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
September 16 2011 22:02 GMT
#56
haha nice team
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 22:06:00
September 16 2011 22:05 GMT
#57
On September 17 2011 06:52 IPA wrote:

I want the 2v2 scene to grow but I would hope for better ambassadors.



Like who, protech? LOL!

manner and 2v2 don't particularly go hand in hand, trust me.

Azide, please stop playing the "we're PP and so abused" card, it's not valid. PP has some of the strongest one base pushes and deathball scenarios in the game all the way up from double 4 gate and you know it. You guys probably win 95% of your games that last from 8-13 minutes.

yeah it's easy to lose early, but that's because you're trying to eek out an advantage by both going cy core, if one of you forged and one of you fast stalker'd every game your mid game might not be as strong with the double tech you two like to do, but your bitching about being exploited early would cease.

By the way, nice pick up.. These guys seem very dedicated from what I've seen, and they're super nice and willing to discuss the game.
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
September 16 2011 22:05 GMT
#58
if marine = zealot = zergling, i could see 2v2 being a real MU, but as it stands its all about sling/smarine bumrushing the shit out of eachother with little real skill involved. so i don't see how picking up people for 2v2 makes any sense at all.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
September 16 2011 22:05 GMT
#59
On September 17 2011 06:53 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 06:23 Roxy wrote:
Love that you are supporting multiplayer - Would love to learn the advanced strategies for it

Not happy about u picking up BM hackers (if that is true)

Not to be a dick but doesn't TT1 ring a bell?

TT1 has already showed that he can be a legit player in bw ( Top 16 TSL2 ) and Sc2 ( #2 at MLG ).
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
September 16 2011 22:08 GMT
#60
On September 17 2011 07:05 VTPerfect wrote:
if marine = zealot = zergling, i could see 2v2 being a real MU, but as it stands its all about sling/smarine bumrushing the shit out of eachother with little real skill involved. so i don't see how picking up people for 2v2 makes any sense at all.

I don't know what a smarine is (speed marine? lol), but that's not at all what 2v2 is.
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