EPTDo you macro like a pro? - Page 31
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LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
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VaultDweller
Romania132 Posts
Although now it shows me an average of 69.77 over 20 games and I'm... ehm... gold. That has me a bit confused, must mean that my micro and decision making suck massively I guess, lol. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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LtLolburger
New Zealand365 Posts
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M1ST
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Reithan
United States360 Posts
However, with zerg it is perfectly possible to OVERdrone. A zerg player can easily spit out a ton of drones early game, waste money on extraneous stuff, like extra OLs, fast expos or extra tech, and keep their money low...but that doesn't mean their macro's good. It's just means they're facerolling the keyboard. T & P don't necessarily work the same way. I don't know what you'd need to add to the equation to make it stand up better to the 'overdroning zerg' test, but Income, Spending, Game Length & Drone Count aren't enough. Otherwise, I wouldn't get results that put me at top of GM league in Drone production and middle-Master with SQ while I'm only Plat league. Sure, there might be other flaws with my play, like bad scouting/decisions and/or unit control, etc. But I doubt that's enough to drop me like 2-3 whole leagues, and still have what basically amounts to god-like macro. Because I don't. | ||
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Knuppe
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riderLyrae
United States45 Posts
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
There is obviously a problem with it when a decent chunk of bronze players score higher than any amount of GM players. | ||
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Reithan
United States360 Posts
On September 17 2011 15:30 kedinik wrote:There is obviously a problem with it when a decent chunk of bronze players score higher than any amount of GM players. I don't think any bronzes have posted to that effect yet. Most of the outliers that have posted are plat or diamond, and all the ones that have mentioned race are Zerg. I really think it's just an issue with Zerg being able to overdrone. | ||
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On September 17 2011 14:53 Azzur wrote: Bronze and GrandMaster overlap (marked area):I believe there are definite gaps between leagues. The empirical data supports what many higher level players know intuitively. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QiOVf.png) Let alone the closer leagues. So we can hardly talk of gaps between leagues. There is scaling in the averages, but there is still quite a lot of variation within a league, and between different games of the same player. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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On September 17 2011 15:49 figq wrote: Bronze and GrandMaster overlap (marked area): Let alone the closer leagues. So we can hardly talk of gaps between leagues. There is scaling in the averages, but there is still quite a lot of variation within a league, and between different games of the same player. I don't see the problem. This is an average measure, and if you compare a 9 minute game of a bronzie where he hits a 3 rax timing attack (just over 600) to a GM micro-intensive game long game, it's much more likely for that bronzie to get a higher score on that one game. It's just a very small number of games. Also, some good players get accounts that they need to play out of bronze, so those 30ish games would contribute to the overlap too. | ||
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Twiggs
United States600 Posts
 )) AAAAAAAA++++++If we assume that each races economy are exactly the same (they are not), we can see that us Protoss players are slipping on each of these graphs! I blame our lack of chronoboost usage into late game  | ||
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StarFox1
United States38 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On September 17 2011 16:00 Ghanburighan wrote: There's no problem, just some comments seem to deduce more from the data than the OP states.I don't see the problem. This is an average measure, and if you compare a 9 minute game of a bronzie where he hits a 3 rax timing attack (just over 600) to a GM micro-intensive game long game, it's much more likely for that bronzie to get a higher score on that one game. It's just a very small number of games. Also, some good players get accounts that they need to play out of bronze, so those 30ish games would contribute to the overlap too. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On September 17 2011 15:49 figq wrote: Bronze and GrandMaster overlap (marked area): Let alone the closer leagues. So we can hardly talk of gaps between leagues. There is scaling in the averages, but there is still quite a lot of variation within a league, and between different games of the same player. there are obviously gaps between the leagues, you just don't know how to read the graph. the overlapping parts are at very low game counts, so essentially the fewer games there are, the more likely the leagues are to overlap. as you increase the sample size, the gaps become more distinguished. | ||
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kaetor
New Zealand292 Posts
High platinum protoss, spending money isn't my problem | ||
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