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EDIT: Can a moderator please change the title to "Dreamhack Valencia Sv.Streaminfo" please? Thanks!
Hello Teamliquid,
As most of you already know, Aftonbladet (Big Swedish tabloid) covered the first Dreamhack invitational in Stockholm and has shown an interest in investing a lot more in esport, ecpecially StarCraft2.
And now they are also going to cover Valencia and, if it goes well, a lot more in the future!
I have worked for Aftonbladet through Amok Studios a couple of times now (I did the interviews at Dreamhack Invitational Stockholm) and I'm now going to Valencia.
Aftonbladets stream is going to show Dreamhacks casters (NOTE: Yes the original english casters and stream!), but Aftonbladets stream is going to have exclusive player- and caster interviews between matches, long personal one-on-one talks with the players and the casters.
We have read all comments on our last broadcast and have taken many steps to improve on the things you, the community, gave feedback on.
Aftonbladets stream will cost 1 Swedish Kroner (0,15$), I have not been informed on why this is so I can not answer any questions regarding it, however 0.15 dollars is a quite trivial sum but it goes a long way of supporting esports! So please support the growth of Esports in Sweden!
There will be a free english stream from Justiv.Tv don't worry, it will have the same casters but it will not have the interviews and reportage in between the matches/pauses.
There is alot of discussion regarding Aftonbladet as a source and I understand this, but please understand that this 1 kr or 0.15 cents are not going into the pocket of Aftonbladet but rather shows them that there is an interest in esports worth supporting. It also helps pay our paychecks, travel expenses etc. here at Amok Studious and we've worked with SvT and dreamhack on many occasions before. If you do not wish to pay 1 kr then that is fine there will be a free stream but do not argue saying that you refuse to "support" Aftonbladet; You've watched Simpsons/Futurama/Family Guy with a 99% probability and they're made by Fox whom makes Fox News. This is the same concept.
We at Amok studios are all Esportsfans. Our founders was the first ones outside Korea to manage to send Esports on television, not just online! I am one of the founders of BarCraft in sweden, so we care about the community and want to see more StarCraft2 in sweden. The fact that aftonbladet wants to broadcast more StarCraft2 is awesome for the Swedish community and I hope that you want to support this!
EDIT: The site where you will have to sign up is here ;
http://www.aftonbladet.se/plus/
This count's as a subscription though so if you do not want to subscribe to Aftonbladet PLUS you need to UNSUBSCRIBE as soon as you've paid the initial 1 kr. You'll then have access to the stream and all of Aftonbladets "Plus" stuff for 1 month and you will only ever pay 1kr.
As mentioned in this topic by awesome fans, when asked why you unsubscribe feel free to mention that Starcraft II was the only reason you paid to begin with (if that indeed was your only reason)
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isn't 1 kronor like 10 cent or something? seems a rather silly thing to do - what are they payment options?
Aside from that exciting news :-)
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On September 13 2011 02:31 Magenta wrote:
Hellu TL!
As most of you already know, Aftonbladet (Big Swedish tabloid) covered the first Dreamhack invitational in Stockholm and has shown an interest in investing a lot more in esport, ecpecially StarCraft2.
And now they are also going to cover Valencia and, if it goes well, a lot more in the future!
I have worked for Aftonbladet throug Amok Studios a couple of times now (i did the interviews at Dreamhack Invitational Stockholm) and im now going to Valencia.
Aftonbladets stream is going to show Dreamhacks casters, but we are going to have more interviews between matches, long personal one on one talks with the players and the casters.
We have read all comments on our last broadcast and have taken many steps to improve on the things you, the community, gave feedback on!
Aftonbladets stream costs 1 kronor, i dont know why (even though im part of the team going to Valecia), but still its not expencive! So support the growth of egaming in Sweden!!
We at Amok studios are all esportsfans. Our founders was the first ones outside Korea to manage to send Esports on television, not just online! I am one of the founders of BarCraft in sweden, so we care about the community and want to se more StarCraft2 in sweden! The fact that aftonbladet want to send more StarCraft2 is awesome for the swedish community and I hope that you want to support this!
dude, my brother's office is where amok studios used to have theirs! were you involved in the fifa 09 competition with professional commentators that was on national tv?
great news btw!
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If they're just going to charge 10 cents why charge at all >.> I know a lot of people won't even bother since it's so little
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It's probably to test the viewer count.
How many people really want to see the stream vs how many just click the link to see what's going on.
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On September 13 2011 02:39 Thobrik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 02:31 Magenta wrote:
Hellu TL!
As most of you already know, Aftonbladet (Big Swedish tabloid) covered the first Dreamhack invitational in Stockholm and has shown an interest in investing a lot more in esport, ecpecially StarCraft2.
And now they are also going to cover Valencia and, if it goes well, a lot more in the future!
I have worked for Aftonbladet throug Amok Studios a couple of times now (i did the interviews at Dreamhack Invitational Stockholm) and im now going to Valencia.
Aftonbladets stream is going to show Dreamhacks casters, but we are going to have more interviews between matches, long personal one on one talks with the players and the casters.
We have read all comments on our last broadcast and have taken many steps to improve on the things you, the community, gave feedback on!
Aftonbladets stream costs 1 kronor, i dont know why (even though im part of the team going to Valecia), but still its not expencive! So support the growth of egaming in Sweden!!
We at Amok studios are all esportsfans. Our founders was the first ones outside Korea to manage to send Esports on television, not just online! I am one of the founders of BarCraft in sweden, so we care about the community and want to se more StarCraft2 in sweden! The fact that aftonbladet want to send more StarCraft2 is awesome for the swedish community and I hope that you want to support this!
dude, my brother's office is where amok studios used to have theirs! were you involved in the fifa 09 competition with professional commentators that was on national tv? great news btw!
awesome! but i have only worked at Amok since beginning of -10 so that was before my time! was reporter at DHS -10 and DHW-10 for SVT. Did the the day9 interview at DHW-10 ^^ good times!
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Yeah I agree...I dont think many ppl will bother at all....the charge is silly (15 cents actually  )....just make people register or something for free.....
The only reason people will pay 15 cents... is if the stream was exlusive and the only one that ran the actual games.....
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I think they charge to see how many people would pay to watch their stream. Otherwise, it'd be the most retarded thing ever.
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People will not pay that since there is an international stream with better casters anyway that is completely free. You should inform them about this simple fact. I will pay to show my support while Im watching the international stream but it is still retarded.
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On September 13 2011 02:53 Valikyr wrote:
People will not pay that since there is an international stream with better casters anyway that is completely free. You should inform them about this simple fact. I will pay to show my support while Im watching the international stream but it is still retarded.
Sounds like they're going to basically restream the in-game stream, but have extra out of game content that would probably be more interesting than what you'd normally get.
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I think it's good that aftonbladet supports esports, but the "newspaper" over all is the most biased unprofessional paper in sweden, while still having a huge impact on the young people. Therefore I am sad to say that I would never pay for any of it's services.
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Awesome! Will not buy it though cause I dislike Aftonbladet so so much. They are very unproffessional...
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Is the additional content going to be put out in the Swedish language?
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On September 13 2011 04:57 BigLighthouse wrote:
Is the additional content going to be put out in the Swedish language?
Think it's hard to interview HuK in swedish :D
But from what I've heard (from undisclosed sources of great legitimacy) primarily english interviews but the swedish players may be interviewed in Swedish and subtitles added after the live content.
On September 13 2011 04:16 Dikkbutt wrote:
I think it's good that aftonbladet supports esports, but the "newspaper" over all is the most biased unprofessional paper in sweden, while still having a huge impact on the young people. Therefore I am sad to say that I would never pay for any of it's services.
I agree to some extent, I wouldn't waste the poo it would take to shit on aftonbladet but this sum of 1 kr is probably going straight to the esports department of it, hardly think I'm supporting aftonbladet as a whole.
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Might pay but the money is going to Aftonbladet which does sting a bit.
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On September 13 2011 04:43 JoeAWESOME wrote:
Awesome! Will not buy it though cause I dislike Aftonbladet so so much. They are very unproffessional...
Understandable but please realize that the money coming in is mostly going to pay for the stream, travel costs and paychecks for Amok Studios etc. and hardly Aftonbladets bank account.
There is just no way for a stand alone company to spend the money on sending people to spain and stream/film at such quality. All tournaments have their sponsors employers and ours is Aftonbladet and Telia:
Would you skip watching the Olympics in football/hockey because Aftonbladets sponsors them too?
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Haha 1 kr, hilarious Will pay though to show support!
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1kr.
Sorry but i'd rather throw that 1kr on a bum than Aftonbladet.
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I guess the intention to monetize content by the newspaper is very understandable, but as long as paying over the internet is as cumbersome as it is today, I think it'll be hard to get the number of paying customers that they're looking for. I like the idea of the micro-transactions, but the lack of a one-button/one-action payment solution skews the trouble><amount of money in the direction of laziness/inaction. I hope it'll pay off though, I think it's quite original of a big established news-media like Aftonbladet to try to get involved (and make money) of a niche interest like SC2.
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Everybody from Sweden should be supporting this no matter what, 1 kr is nothing.
If you're Swedish and not buying the 1 kr pass you're killing esport.
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As I see it charging 1 kr is a way to test the water and see how many people out there that are actually willing to pay for Starcraft 2 online content. Having an estimate if it's 200,2000,20000 or 200000 potentially paying customers will make it easier to calculate some kind of expected value for later investments.
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I will be paying for the stream, even though Aftonbladet is the devil. The way I see it. I'm not giving 1 kr to Aftonbladet, but to esports.
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Actually you are not paying 1kr to see the event, you are paying 1kr to become a premium user at aftonbladet for 1 month (plus-kund). So if you already are a premium user you can see the event without paying extra for it.
Too bad you cant see the event without being a premium user though, almost 300k watched last Dreamhack and that will be much lower now.
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On September 14 2011 00:38 remember87 wrote:
Actually you are not paying 1kr to see the event, you are paying 1kr to become a premium user at aftonbladet for 1 month (plus-kund). So if you already are a premium user you can see the event without paying extra for it.
Too bad you cant see the event without being a premium user though, almost 300k watched last Dreamhack and that will be much lower now.
Yeah I just think the work to pay 1 kr is the hard part no the 1 kr !
Should've been like 2-5 kr, either way people who'll pay will pay and they'd make perhaps double or triple the amount rather than making it harder just to gain 1 kr
Oh well, you don't want to ruin esports do you?
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Exactly how do I pay the 1 kr?
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Do note that the 1kr deal is a subscription. You can probably unsubscribe the very moment you set your account up, but do not forget to do that or they'll charge you on a monthly basis.
And most importantly: When you do unsubscribe, be sure to take the survey where they ask you why, and state that you only came for SC2.
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This thread might end up fooling a lot of people to become premium users and ending up being charged for a subscription they dont want.
The OP really should be 100% clear about this.
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Extremely stupid...
1 krona? wtf
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On September 14 2011 03:09 Kreb wrote:
This thread might end up fooling a lot of people to become premium users and ending up being charged for a subscription they dont want.
The OP really should be 100% clear about this.
Indeed, updating it now, sorry for this but as mentioned I am not the one handling this, I am just a reporter who wants to share this info with the community since there hasn't (and probably will not) been any official statement regarding this.
Never used Aftonbladet PLUS myself 
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Loved the interviews at the last invitational, also like your work with SVT.
I think I can afford to pay 1kr for this
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I will probably get it just to 'support SC2' and all that, but 1) a payment page in English would be helpful and 2) from what little I know about Aftonbladet I wish someone else was doing it.
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Not gonna happen from my part as long as it is aftonbladet.
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On September 13 2011 07:04 Eee wrote:
Everybody from Sweden should be supporting this no matter what, 1 kr is nothing.
If you're Swedish and not buying the 1 kr pass you're killing esport.
No you are not killing esports, you are supporting a shit tabloid..
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Aftonbladet have tried to get us to pay for viewing their web page for a long time. This is one step closer to have to pay for everything on the web. Keep the web free dont support Aftonbladet. Dont buy the paper dont pay to get access to the page.
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what does this mean? we can't watch any of the DreamHack Valencia without paying?
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1kr Why the fuck bother!! Its the time it takes to pay it that's the pain in the ass. Just so unnecessary.
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holy shit.. all these people going "I WONT PAY 1KR BECAUSE ITS AFTONBLADET HERP DERP" are making my head hurt.....
its not like the CEO of aftonbladet will sit and watch & fistpump every time A WHOLE SEK rolls into his bank account..
aftonbladet wont go bankrupt if you dont pay 1 SEK to watch sc2, only thing you're doing is reducing the chance that a major company will invest in Sc2/ESPORTS in the future.
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On September 13 2011 04:16 Dikkbutt wrote:
I think it's good that aftonbladet supports esports, but the "newspaper" over all is the most biased unprofessional paper in sweden, while still having a huge impact on the young people. Therefore I am sad to say that I would never pay for any of it's services.
i can understand unprofessional... but on what do you base the most biased on? I don't really read much in newspaper way but i have never got this impression.
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Dont buy, aftonbladet is the worst "newspaper" out there.
Pay for good streams with real casters, not popular-media like this thats just in it for the traffic.
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Last time they streamed Dreamhack invitational at stockholm it was flawless, much better than dreamhack own stream at justin.tv, so will probably pay 15 cent to see it at aftonbladet.se
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The stream quality was good last time but the casters were so bad that I actually felt embarrased watching it.
It just feels greedy to make ppl pay for watching it this time, even tho its only 1kr.
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Holy crap swedes, that is awesome.
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I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials
Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15.
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On September 14 2011 05:01 Vralaren wrote:I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15.
so because they have dumb stories in their newsper, you wont support their esport section? cool logic bro
what other major newspapers are investing into esports?
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On September 14 2011 05:08 kankerganker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 05:01 Vralaren wrote:I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15. so because they have dumb stories in their newsper, you wont support their esport section? cool logic bro what other major newspapers are investing into esports?
It is an excellent reason not to support their esports section, the whole newspaper is basically shit. Would you support an sc2 stream run by the sun?
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Well this is pretty stupid. Not many people will pay because you´re still going to get the games for free on another stream. Why bother?
And Aftonbladet is not exactly liked by sensible people.
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1 kr is so silly I don't even bother. And why would I when I can see the official stream for free anyway. T_T
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1kr is relaly a great price :D i would be willing to pay that if i can pay via a super easy payment method such as paypal or somethin xd
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On September 14 2011 04:53 Fwm wrote:
The stream quality was good last time but the casters were so bad that I actually felt embarrased watching it.
It just feels greedy to make ppl pay for watching it this time, even tho its only 1kr.
On September 14 2011 04:42 Knuppe wrote:
Dont buy, aftonbladet is the worst "newspaper" out there.
Pay for good streams with real casters, not popular-media like this thats just in it for the traffic.
It will be the english casters, Day9 etc. so no change there. Please read the OP.
On September 14 2011 05:01 Vralaren wrote:I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15.
I understand that alot of people feel like this but in all honesty, FOX makes Futurama, Family Guy, Simpsons etc. and how many of you have not indirectly paid to watch those shows? Same logic, you're sponsoring Fox News just asmuch.
Once again ; This 1 kr does not go directly to Aftonbladet but to support their esports division and the contractors, including Amok Studies of which has been engaged with esports with both SvT and Dreamhack for a long time.
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On September 14 2011 05:16 Termit wrote:
1 kr is so silly I don't even bother. And why would I when I can see the official stream for free anyway. T_T
Because.... "Aftonbladets stream is going to have exclusive player- and caster interviews between matches, long personal one-on-one talks with the players and the casters. "
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This sounds awsome I think! Good that esports becomes more mainstream!
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Wow, people are acting like aftonbladet have killed their cat or something. Not every part of the paper is bad (or evil). If they provide good sc2 content that you want to see, why wouldn't you pay for it? Positive reinforcement and all that.
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More support for esports is always a good thing.
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I'm glad that Aftonbladet is doing these sorts of things for esports, even though it's an absolutely horrendous newspaper.
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On September 14 2011 05:22 Magenta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 04:53 Fwm wrote:
The stream quality was good last time but the casters were so bad that I actually felt embarrased watching it.
It just feels greedy to make ppl pay for watching it this time, even tho its only 1kr. Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 04:42 Knuppe wrote:
Dont buy, aftonbladet is the worst "newspaper" out there.
Pay for good streams with real casters, not popular-media like this thats just in it for the traffic. It will be the english casters, Day9 etc. so no change there. Please read the OP.Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 05:01 Vralaren wrote:I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15. I understand that alot of people feel like this but in all honesty, FOX makes Futurama, Family Guy, Simpsons etc. and how many of you have not indirectly paid to watch those shows? Same logic, you're sponsoring Fox News just asmuch. Once again ; This 1 kr does not go directly to Aftonbladet but to support their esports division and the contractors, including Amok Studies of which has been engaged with esports with both SvT and Dreamhack for a long time.
That is not true though. They have no idea if we payed for SC2 or their regular plus membership. As far as any of us know, the money could be spent on more plus articles about which cars to buy.
If they do get enough new subscribers that it's actually very noticable, obviously nothing bad will come out of that, but the 1kr payment isn't going directly to ESPORTS. It's going to Aftonbladet Plus, that has been a subscription plan far longer than SC2 has been around.
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I do not care that Aftonbladet is Swedens version of the Sun. If Stalin supported E-sports he would be my number one comrade.
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On September 14 2011 05:10 FreddYCooL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 05:08 kankerganker wrote:On September 14 2011 05:01 Vralaren wrote:I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15. so because they have dumb stories in their newsper, you wont support their esport section? cool logic bro what other major newspapers are investing into esports? It is an excellent reason not to support their esports section, the whole newspaper is basically shit. Would you support an sc2 stream run by the sun?
Yes. Why wouldn't I if the sc2 stream was good? It makes absolutely no sense. You guys aren't sticking it to Aftonbladet, you're just basically telling a potential sponsor of E-sports events to screw off.
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On September 14 2011 05:37 ribboo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 05:22 Magenta wrote:On September 14 2011 04:53 Fwm wrote:
The stream quality was good last time but the casters were so bad that I actually felt embarrased watching it.
It just feels greedy to make ppl pay for watching it this time, even tho its only 1kr. On September 14 2011 04:42 Knuppe wrote:
Dont buy, aftonbladet is the worst "newspaper" out there.
Pay for good streams with real casters, not popular-media like this thats just in it for the traffic. It will be the english casters, Day9 etc. so no change there. Please read the OP.On September 14 2011 05:01 Vralaren wrote:I woud honestly pay for any stream like this, but for 1 exception...Aftonbladet. That newspapper is just horrible :/ It just writes lies and make HUGE articles about a Example; a cat stuck in a tree. Woudent surprise me if they made a follow up on it and asked evrybody that knew the cat how they felt and made up questions about their time in their life when the cat were gona etc. Now im not here to whine. I just think its silly they charge so little, also we dont know if the keep it or not! Cause i dont want them to earn money on me. They do enuff on commercials Sorry for bad english grammar I'm just 15. I understand that alot of people feel like this but in all honesty, FOX makes Futurama, Family Guy, Simpsons etc. and how many of you have not indirectly paid to watch those shows? Same logic, you're sponsoring Fox News just asmuch. Once again ; This 1 kr does not go directly to Aftonbladet but to support their esports division and the contractors, including Amok Studies of which has been engaged with esports with both SvT and Dreamhack for a long time. That is not true though. They have no idea if we payed for SC2 or their regular plus membership. As far as any of us know, the money could be spent on more plus articles about which cars to buy. If they do get enough new subscribers that it's actually very noticable, obviously nothing bad will come out of that, but the 1kr payment isn't going directly to ESPORTS. It's going to Aftonbladet Plus, that has been a subscription plan far longer than SC2 has been around.
Sorry but if suddenly 1000-5000+ people pay for Aftonbladet Plus the same weekend as Dreamhack Valencia, and the stream then gets alot of viewers, then yes, ofcourse it will directly show and invest in Esports.
Will you be paying us directly for our work in esports? No. But trust me the NASL/GSL/IGN premium passes do not cost 5$+ because of the fat paychecks of the casters or the people burning for esports but rather the necessity to pay for streams, technicians, sound and video editing etc.
Point is; there is a reason it will only cost 1 kr or 0.15 cents and why there is still a free stream. This is because of the sponsors and contractors.
On September 14 2011 05:42 MockHamill wrote:
I do not care that Aftonbladet is Swedens version of the Sun. If Stalin supported E-sports he would be my number one comrade.
<3 Thank you !
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What's with all the hate? Aftonbladet is arguably the first newspaper in the world taking esports this seriously. The 1kr fee is probably, as many already stated, to test how many people would make the effort to pay for the extra content. They provide this awesome service basically free. If one just want's to watch the stream and skip it that's totally fine, but please don't flame them for doing something this awesome.
Personally I don't like Aftonbladet very much, I never buy their newspaper, hardly ever browse their site, but this is just a great initiative, and in my eyes they are increasing thier "goodwill" a lot. Although Aftonbladet and Dreamhack most likely have a deal of some sort, I doubt Dreamhack alone would be providing the same level of coverage with interviews and stuff if they did it on their own(the quality of Aftonbladets coverage is yet to be seen ofc and can only be evaluated afterwards). However, Aftonbladet are going to be there focusing on one thing, namely coverage of the event and players outside of the game. The streaming of the games will still be produced by Dreamhack.
Hopefully they will do a good job, I for one am happy to pay the small ammount of 1 SEK to get access to extra interviews and more. Can't wait!
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1 kr is nothing, will pay simply to support ESports, plus, I might be able to get my dad to watch a game or two to make him realize that starcraft is actually a sport equal in standard to football and tennis, simply not as popular. he claims I play too much on a few hours per day, where about 1 hour is actually playing the game -.-
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On September 14 2011 05:42 MockHamill wrote:
I do not care that Aftonbladet is Swedens version of the Sun. If Stalin supported E-sports he would be my number one comrade.
I feel the same way if they do ESPORTS they deserve my 1 kr to spend as they wish. The Fox News thing is spot on, If fox decided to broadcast MLG for .15 cent for extra interviews I would pay for it .
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For non-Swedish posters Aftonbladet is a fairly average tabloid therefore it shouldn't be your only source of news. Like most tabloids it is all about the headlines and little else. however, the Swedish posters here are overexaggerating the awfulness of the site, and you can bet that most of them visit the site regularly. It is pretty much the biggest Swedish site on the web.
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On September 14 2011 06:02 Eury wrote:
For non-Swedish posters Aftonbladet is a fairly average tabloid therefore it shouldn't be your only source of news. Like most tabloids it is all about the headlines and little else. however, the Swedish posters here are overexaggerating the awfulness of the site, and you can bet that most of them visit the site regularly. It is pretty much the biggest Swedish site on the web.
Yeah, it's pretty much a mix of a super gossip/Fox news/tabloid newspaper, isn't as bad as Fox but it's pretty much widely considered to be moronic.
Aslong as they keep their hands out of the production I don't mind the hassle, loved the interviews by magenta of day9 at dreamhack etc. but I hope they keep that whitehaired dude away from the production this time... I really can't stand him 
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Just paid my 1kr for plus to support this event. Go Swedish ESPORTS. (Still think its a dumb choice by them though)
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I would love to pay for it but not when it has anything to do with Aftonbladet. It's the biggest crap news paper in Sweden (the world?). Aftonbladet is not in it for the love of e-sport, they are looking for ways to make money.
It's sad that this post got made because it will make Aftonbladet look like a cool news paper when it's not. So fuck Aftonbladet and everything it stands for, no sane swede reads it.
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To people who refuse to pay 1 kr due to Aftonbladets "evil nature":
Think about what you've spent your money on the last couple of days... Are there any saints on the receiving end? You think the 10 kr you paid for that coke last night is gonna help some 10 year old starving girl in Somalia?
It makes no sense to boycott Aftonbladets stream if you are a true fan of esport.
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The fee of 1kr is because you need a "Plus" account on their website to view the tournament, and that costs 1kr for the first month. After that it's 29kr per month, but you can just cancel it after signing up and it'll last for a month and grant you access to the tournament. So you're not actually paying for the stream itself, you're paying for a service they provide that includes the stream among other things.
There are LOTS of bad things to say about Aftonbladet, but this isn't one of them imo.
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On September 14 2011 16:20 Freud wrote:
To people who refuse to pay 1 kr due to Aftonbladets "evil nature":
Think about what you've spent your money on the last couple of days... Are there any saints on the receiving end? You think the 10 kr you paid for that coke last night is gonna help some 10 year old starving girl in Somalia?
It makes no sense to boycott Aftonbladets stream if you are a true fan of esport.
I hate AB and everything they do, it's no moral aspect to it. I like coke and I don't give a shit what they do around the world. I wouldn't even watch the stream from AB if it was free. If I don't like it I won't interact with it, simple.
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Every one should make like.. 10 accounts and pay with all of them.
What the should do however, is make it possible to buy ONLY the HD stream, not the entire plus-package. And charge 10 kr. We'll all pay anyway!
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I can't even begin to fathom the stupidity in adding a 1kr fee to watching the stream. If they really wanted any significant ammount of money they would atleast have it at 20kr or something. They are NOT going to get more than 10k paying streamwatchers and with less than 10k kr how are they going to fund even travel expenses?
All they are doing by this is ensuring that less people will actually watch their stream. That is all they are going to get out of it.
I would actually consider paying if I knew the money were actually going to do some good but this low ammount of moey isn't even going to be enough to acomplish anything. The 500 or so swedes that are going to be interested in interviews might be buying this but I sure wont be.
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On September 14 2011 16:25 Vond wrote:The fee of 1kr is because you need a "Plus" account on their website to view the tournament, and that costs 1kr for the first month. After that it's 29kr per month, but you can just cancel it after signing up and it'll last for a month and grant you access to the tournament. So you're not actually paying for the stream itself, you're paying for a service they provide that includes the stream among other things. There are LOTS of bad things to say about Aftonbladet, but this isn't one of them imo.
Ok well this actually clears things up. I thought they added a 1kr fee to the starcraft stream specifically which would have been beyond retarded in all aspects. That makes way more sense.
However they are still going to lose a vast majority of the viewers due to this. Most people would rather skip the extra content just for the hassle of setting up an account of doing a pointless transaction plus cancling the account etc.
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Paid, even though I never ever will read Aftonbladet, im supporting esports! ;P
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Making SVT's stream exclusive and taking something like $5 or $10 would be alot more solid information, if they're looking for statistics.
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On September 14 2011 15:50 Firewood wrote:
I would love to pay for it but not when it has anything to do with Aftonbladet. It's the biggest crap news paper in Sweden (the world?). Aftonbladet is not in it for the love of e-sport, they are looking for ways to make money.
It's sad that this post got made because it will make Aftonbladet look like a cool news paper when it's not. So fuck Aftonbladet and everything it stands for, no sane swede reads it.
So what you are actually saying is that you do not want people to make money out of e-sports? Why do you think huge companies sponsor footballteams? Why do you think that Viasat has bought the rights to Champions League for tremendous amounts of money.
I'll tell you, and it will probably change the way you view the world. They don't do it to be nice to you. They do it to make money. Of course Aftonbladet gets involved in e-sports and SC2 because they can earn money from it. What we need to do, is prove to them that they do can make a lot of money out of E-sports. That's the reason for this post. I actually get annoyed reading your silly post. Everyone else in this thread think it's amazing that they believe that there is money to be earned, following the SC2-scene. Aftonbladet may not be the most trust-worthy News Paper in Sweden. However, I think it is amazing that they have realized that there is money in e-sports. It's great and will evolve the scene in Sweden, something we're all trying to achieve...
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On September 14 2011 16:58 Tryxtira wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 15:50 Firewood wrote:
I would love to pay for it but not when it has anything to do with Aftonbladet. It's the biggest crap news paper in Sweden (the world?). Aftonbladet is not in it for the love of e-sport, they are looking for ways to make money.
It's sad that this post got made because it will make Aftonbladet look like a cool news paper when it's not. So fuck Aftonbladet and everything it stands for, no sane swede reads it. So what you are actually saying is that you do not want people to make money out of e-sports?
No I wasn't? I really don't see the logics in that.
Let me make it easier for all of you who like to paint your own picture, I don't want Aftonbladet to make money off anything, they are a bad company, that I don't support.
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The Aftonbladet hate in this thread is hillarious, and I'm pretty sure the most vocal "haters" are Expressen readers. Expressen is the exact same shit as aftonbladet, but with a right-wing twist on things.
Personally I'm just bothered by the hassle of paying 1SEK and that it will put alot of people off watching the stream at all, just cause it's a silly low amount and that it feels stupid to break out a creditcard or paypal/whatever to pay it.
I would much rather SVT(play) doing the streaming seeing as they did a good job with their ESPORTS show on the web.
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On September 14 2011 17:12 Firewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 16:58 Tryxtira wrote:On September 14 2011 15:50 Firewood wrote:
I would love to pay for it but not when it has anything to do with Aftonbladet. It's the biggest crap news paper in Sweden (the world?). Aftonbladet is not in it for the love of e-sport, they are looking for ways to make money.
It's sad that this post got made because it will make Aftonbladet look like a cool news paper when it's not. So fuck Aftonbladet and everything it stands for, no sane swede reads it. So what you are actually saying is that you do not want people to make money out of e-sports? No I wasn't? I really don't see the logics in that. Let me make it easier for all of you who like to paint your own picture, I don't want Aftonbladet to make money off anything, they are a bad company, that I don't support.
I think it's a silly stand-point. Your hatred for a news paper that with this recent decision support supposedly big love of yours. I don't see the logic in not supporting a big, powerful news paper who has decided to support e-sports. It doesn't make any sense. You can at least support that Aftonbladet has decided to make an investment in e-sports, but you don't and your biggest argument seems to be that they are evil. I just don't see how a paper can be evil by default.
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List of assets owned by News Corporation (Fox News)
These include: Hulu, IGN, the FX cable channel and 20th Century Fox - you know, these guys.
So, none of you people should ever watch Star Wars, Die Hard, Alien, Planet of the Apes, Home Alone, Predator, the Simpsons, Family Guy, or X-Men ever again and that is only a tiny, tiny selection of everything you'd have to boycott to avoid giving Rupert Murdoch money. You've got some serious research to do. Have fun!
Anyway....
This count's as a subscription though so if you do not want to subscribe to Aftonbladet PLUS you need to UNSUBSCRIBE as soon as you've paid the initial 1 kr.
That is one reason why it is so cheap: they are hoping you don't realize it is a subscription or forget to cancel it and end up paying them more money. Pretty crappy, in my mind, but showing them that StarCraft 2 is a profitable market to be exploited is really in everyone's best interests here, unless you're one of those people who only likes things until they are popular. In which case, you can just go right ahead and screw yourself, anyway.
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On September 14 2011 17:51 Tryxtira wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2011 17:12 Firewood wrote:On September 14 2011 16:58 Tryxtira wrote:On September 14 2011 15:50 Firewood wrote:
I would love to pay for it but not when it has anything to do with Aftonbladet. It's the biggest crap news paper in Sweden (the world?). Aftonbladet is not in it for the love of e-sport, they are looking for ways to make money.
It's sad that this post got made because it will make Aftonbladet look like a cool news paper when it's not. So fuck Aftonbladet and everything it stands for, no sane swede reads it. So what you are actually saying is that you do not want people to make money out of e-sports? No I wasn't? I really don't see the logics in that. Let me make it easier for all of you who like to paint your own picture, I don't want Aftonbladet to make money off anything, they are a bad company, that I don't support. I think it's a silly stand-point. Your hatred for a news paper that with this recent decision support supposedly big love of yours. I don't see the logic in not supporting a big, powerful news paper who has decided to support e-sports. It doesn't make any sense. You can at least support that Aftonbladet has decided to make an investment in e-sports, but you don't and your biggest argument seems to be that they are evil. I just don't see how a paper can be evil by default.
Are you retarded? Because retarded people can make anything happen. I never said it was evil, where did you get that from? I think what they do is crap. Lesser educated white trash people might like the gossip like news that AB brings to the table, but i don't.
I don't like AB and if I can get the same content withouth having anything to do with them why wouldn't I?
And please stop making up shit, you did it twice already.
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On September 14 2011 17:49 Fayfay wrote:
The Aftonbladet hate in this thread is hillarious, and I'm pretty sure the most vocal "haters" are Expressen readers. Expressen is the exact same shit as aftonbladet, but with a right-wing twist on things.
Why would anyone read either of them?
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Thank all of you who have paid!
Like i stated before, We at Amok are responsible for the StarCraft2-streams and interviews and Aftonbladet contracts us. Do you not watch GSL just cause pepsi drain water from Indian villages? Everything about AB is not agreeable but esport don't exist without sponsors. I pay for almost every tournament I watch because I know how manny people work with esport without getting paid. Someone need to invest money. This time its aftonbladet.
In the end i think you got to choose - sponsors that you don't always agree with, or no growth in esports.
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On September 14 2011 03:25 busbarn wrote:Loved the interviews at the last invitational, also like your work with SVT. I think I can afford to pay 1kr for this
Thank you! awesome to hear!
My day9-interview was the best thing I have ever done <3 he's such a nice guy.
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Bought it! I don't give a flying poodle who the sponsor is, if they provide me with aweosme esports I pay!
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At the end of the day.People do what they want with their money. Telling someone to do it for E-sports is a pretty lame argument.
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You better be able to pay with a text or this is absurd. Articles about sc2 just keep on popping up and they are not terrible. Gotta respect aftonbladets sports section, always been considered strong and now esports (all though they don't place it with sports)
edit: it's a first month deal for their "aftonbladet plus" deal. I don't want that deal even if they pay me
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On September 13 2011 07:04 Eee wrote:
Everybody from Sweden should be supporting this no matter what, 1 kr is nothing.
If you're Swedish and not buying the 1 kr pass you're killing esport.
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO0xspHN0Vw"
And im doing my part! Just got Plus for 1kr.
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Yep bought it! Gonna cancel subscription after 1 month though  a lot of people read aftonbladet online or the paper, supporting this means that they will be motivated to continue cover esports, which may eventually be more normalized and appealing to the "everyday" people.
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On September 17 2011 18:29 drdreggor wrote:Yep bought it! Gonna cancel subscription after 1 month though a lot of people read aftonbladet online or the paper, supporting this means that they will be motivated to continue cover esports, which may eventually be more normalized and appealing to the "everyday" people.
Will do the same. To get the exclusive esport content is fine, but I'm not interested in the rest of the content provided by this subscription option. I have no need to pay for "Learn who is the most well payed man over 50 in your state" or "Learn 10 pro tips to get the washboard stomach before beach 2012" etc.
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On September 14 2011 18:03 Tehs Tehklz wrote:List of assets owned by News Corporation (Fox News)These include: Hulu, IGN, the FX cable channel and 20th Century Fox - you know, these guys. So, none of you people should ever watch Star Wars, Die Hard, Alien, Planet of the Apes, Home Alone, Predator, the Simpsons, Family Guy, or X-Men ever again and that is only a tiny, tiny selection of everything you'd have to boycott to avoid giving Rupert Murdoch money. You've got some serious research to do. Have fun! Anyway.... Show nested quote +This count's as a subscription though so if you do not want to subscribe to Aftonbladet PLUS you need to UNSUBSCRIBE as soon as you've paid the initial 1 kr. That is one reason why it is so cheap: they are hoping you don't realize it is a subscription or forget to cancel it and end up paying them more money. Pretty crappy, in my mind, but showing them that StarCraft 2 is a profitable market to be exploited is really in everyone's best interests here, unless you're one of those people who only likes things until they are popular. In which case, you can just go right ahead and screw yourself, anyway.
Ty for a great post, I agree 100%
+1
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will they bother me about continuing this aftonbladet+ thing after the first month if I pay this? I would gladly pay for this event but I want to have nothing to do with any other aftonbladet+ related thing.
edit: Just payed and unsubscribed a moment ago and it went smoothly. Payed with a code from an sms
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Same, simple enough. Listed "more starcraft" as the reason when I unsubscribed. Hoping enough people do it to get aftonbladet to pay more attention to starcraft coverage.
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The whole Aftonbladet Plus thing is pretty bad imo. E-sport/Sc2 fans will pay the 1kr and perhaps the 30kr for some following events, but most normal users do not have Plus, so even though a mainstream newspaper is covering it, it wont reach the mainstream audience in the same way :/ Wish they'd keep it free just so it wouldn't halt the expansion of sc2.
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Hmm, should I or shouldn't I sell my soul to the Devil for 1kr?
So hard to decide!
Aftonbladet is 1 of the shittiest papers ever but at the same time I want to show support when a mainstream paper invests in Sc2.
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Well since they are going for a more in-depth coverage this time I gladly give my 1kr for a glimpse of it even if it ends with me just switching stream to the DH one.
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On September 17 2011 19:25 Zalman wrote:
Hmm, should I or shouldn't I sell my soul to the Devil for 1kr?
So hard to decide!
Aftonbladet is 1 of the shittiest papers ever but at the same time I want to show support when a mainstream paper invests in Sc2.
Honestly, no it's not. The Aftonbladet hate in this thread is just silly and unwarranted. It's the cool thing to do though these days so I'm not surprised.
No I don't read Aftonbladet regularly, i get most of my news from DN/teh intrawebz, but I sometimes do due to some of their excellent comlumnists. Wolfgang Hansson and Staffan Heimersson are teo excellent writers and as I'm a big football fan, I appreciate the two best football journalists in Sweden bar none, Erik Niva and Simon Bank. No one delivers such insightful and deep coverage as Erik Niva, a rare gem in todays sport coverage.
My point is, there is great content in Aftonbladet if you can see past the average tabloid BS.
And comparing it to Fox or something is way off, Fox sucks mostly because the strong political bias, AB got very little of that. Compare it to The Sun or something instead.
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On September 17 2011 19:48 Longshank wrote:
Fox sucks mostly because the strong political bias, AB got very little of that. Compare it to The Sun or something instead.
You're telling me Aftonbladet is not politically biased..?
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Can't watch the HuK interview, wtf?
(Yes I've bought "Aftonbladet+")
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_All_ major swedish newspapers have a political bias, your point?
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On September 17 2011 20:16 Traveller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 19:48 Longshank wrote:
Fox sucks mostly because the strong political bias, AB got very little of that. Compare it to The Sun or something instead. You're telling me Aftonbladet is not politically biased..?
All news outlets are, but not even close to the extent that Fox is
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hmm, iirc from last time they covered DH it was pretty bad quality on the casters etc.
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On September 13 2011 07:04 Eee wrote:
Everybody from Sweden should be supporting this no matter what, 1 kr is nothing.
If you're Swedish and not buying the 1 kr pass you're killing esport.
I'm sorry to single you out but this is just too good of an example of what I truly hate. I despise Aftonbladet more than any other tabloid mostly because they are being passed of as a true newspaper. I would never ever pay Aftonbladet a single cent, they are completely with out morals, and if not paying 1 kr is killing eSports, then you are killing football(soccer) for not buying that fruity pink ribbon. That post is exactly something you could read in this tabloid, "Buy this subscription or you are killing eSports". If you don't, they will publish your picture and name with the caption "This man is killing eSports and he lives near you".
You money WILL NOT go to eSports in any way, you are buying a subscription to the "plus" features of their online content. This is mainly horrific biased bullshit, political propaganda and single mothers describing how to lose weight. If neo nazis or left wing fear mongers were streaming SC2 would pay them 1 kr? No? Why not, you are killing eSports. My personal beliefs that you should not judge people without proof and that you should not ruin someones life to make easy money direclty contradicts what Aftonbladet is about. Protect pedophiles but print pictures, names and approximate address' of people that Aftonbladet hope are guilty of trivial "popular" crimes then comtinue to write stuff about them for weeks to make them look like mass murderers. Is that really something you want to support?
The most frightening thing about this tabloid is what i mentioned earlier, they are being passed of as a real newspaper! This is Swedens leading source of news for the younger generations and I won't support it. It disgust me to no end as I have been a subject for the lies and bullshit spewed by them, now I'm so mad I won't be able to sleep for the next couple of weeks. Thank you.
/ End of rant
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This is sooooo great!
Interveiw with Idra atm!
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On September 17 2011 20:16 Traveller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 19:48 Longshank wrote:
Fox sucks mostly because the strong political bias, AB got very little of that. Compare it to The Sun or something instead. You're telling me Aftonbladet is not politically biased..?
Compared to Fox News, no, not even close and it's dishonest to compare the two.
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On September 17 2011 21:26 terrancake wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 13 2011 07:04 Eee wrote:
Everybody from Sweden should be supporting this no matter what, 1 kr is nothing.
If you're Swedish and not buying the 1 kr pass you're killing esport. I'm sorry to single you out but this is just too good of an example of what I truly hate. I despise Aftonbladet more than any other tabloid mostly because they are being passed of as a true newspaper. I would never ever pay Aftonbladet a single cent, they are completely with out morals, and if not paying 1 kr is killing eSports, then you are killing football(soccer) for not buying that fruity pink ribbon. That post is exactly something you could read in this tabloid, "Buy this subscription or you are killing eSports". If you don't, they will publish your picture and name with the caption "This man is killing eSports and he lives near you". You money WILL NOT go to eSports in any way, you are buying a subscription to the "plus" features of their online content. This is mainly horrific biased bullshit, political propaganda and single mothers describing how to lose weight. If neo nazis or left wing fear mongers were streaming SC2 would pay them 1 kr? No? Why not, you are killing eSports. My personal beliefs that you should not judge people without proof and that you should not ruin someones life to make easy money direclty contradicts what Aftonbladet is about. Protect pedophiles but print pictures, names and approximate address' of people that Aftonbladet hope are guilty of trivial "popular" crimes then comtinue to write stuff about them for weeks to make them look like mass murderers. Is that really something you want to support? The most frightening thing about this tabloid is what i mentioned earlier, they are being passed of as a real newspaper! This is Swedens leading source of news for the younger generations and I won't support it. It disgust me to no end as I have been a subject for the lies and bullshit spewed by them, now I'm so mad I won't be able to sleep for the next couple of weeks. Thank you. / End of rant
Do you not watch Family guy or watch 20 century fox movies too? Otherwise you are probably a hypocrite.
On September 17 2011 21:35 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 20:16 Traveller wrote:On September 17 2011 19:48 Longshank wrote:
Fox sucks mostly because the strong political bias, AB got very little of that. Compare it to The Sun or something instead. You're telling me Aftonbladet is not politically biased..? Compared to Fox News, no, not even close and it's dishonest to compare the two.
AB is tabloid, its not biased like at all from what I have seen. From the limited amount of info I have seen they are about as biased as SVT.
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On September 17 2011 21:35 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +
Compared to Fox News, no, not even close and it's dishonest to compare the two.
AB is tabloid, its not biased like at all from what I have seen.
It's a liberal socialdemocratic(obunden socialdemokratisk) paper actually, but yeah it's very loose in it's ideology.
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I think people need some perspective on things.
I absolutely loathe Aftonbladet. It's a terrible newspaper published by a terrible organisation staffed by terrible people with terrible morals. I should know, they published lies and slander about my family years ago that still hurts us.
If people don't want to support Aftonbladet (and as people have said, that krona IS going to Aftonbladet, however they then pay their producers is an entirely different matter) because of political or moral beliefs, I don't think they should. It's in every person's right to refuse to pay for material produced by people he/she doesn't want to support. I will never pay them a single krona, ever, just as I wouldn't pay neo nazis or communists (well, Aftonbladet are pretty close) for the same content.
However, that doesn't mean that I wouldn't take whatever content is given for free. And it also doesn't mean I don't like the initiative, because hopefully that means someone better will join in in the future.
And to the guy saying people are hypocrites for watching 20th Century Fox movies but not wanting to support Aftonbladet...what's wrong with you? How are those things even remotely related? If I don't want to support Scan because I don't like their practices, does that mean I can't ever eat meat again, ever? It's a stupid argument.
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On September 17 2011 21:43 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 21:35 Eppa! wrote:
Compared to Fox News, no, not even close and it's dishonest to compare the two.
AB is tabloid, its not biased like at all from what I have seen. It's a liberal socialdemocratic(obunden socialdemokratisk) paper actually, but yeah it's very loose in it's ideology.
If you think Aftonbladet is even remotely liberal, you haven't read enough Aftonbladet.
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how many viewers are using Aftonbladet stream right now?
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On September 17 2011 21:48 Dwarsen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 21:43 Longshank wrote:On September 17 2011 21:35 Eppa! wrote:
Compared to Fox News, no, not even close and it's dishonest to compare the two.
AB is tabloid, its not biased like at all from what I have seen. It's a liberal socialdemocratic(obunden socialdemokratisk) paper actually, but yeah it's very loose in it's ideology. If you think Aftonbladet is even remotely liberal, you haven't read enough Aftonbladet.
Liberal as in "obunden" obviously, but I don't know if that's the correct english term.
This is way off-topic though, point was that their nothing like Fox News.
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Don't support this shit newspaper, the amount of mental abuse they put out regularly is just disgusting. It's like every headline (and even the articles most of the time) is designed to be manipulative. I just put this out there to be one of the people who have pointed this out, hopefully that'll make people not supporting them.
That deal where you have to sign up for aftonbladet plus is another dirty thing, trying to fish for people to join that by putting out a cheap offer for this specific thing.
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You should know that you will be charged each month when doing this.
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On September 17 2011 22:40 Nivity wrote:
You should know that you will be charged each month when doing this.
Reading is hard.
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Uhh... just wanted to point out that if esports ever belonged in a publication it would probably be tabloids. People that read tabloids read them for entertainment which is why the sports sections and gossip sections of tabloids are proportionally bigger than in proper newspapers. People just pick them up, read what happened in a league, look at some boobs and move on. So saying that its a garbage thing to read for news is kind of pointless.
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Lots of really angry people here.
Let me say that's it's great that Aftonbladet is in on this, giving a little more spotlight for SC2 among the non-gamers out there (in Sweden).
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I don't see how people come to the conclusion that it is bad that Aftonbladet are doing this. The 1kr price is obviously a token fee to decide the interest around SC2 (and I guess esports as a whole).
We all want Esports to grow. However, when it is actually covered by the country's biggest (by far) news corporation, people can't wait for the first chance to discourage everyone from showing that the interest for Esports is actually big enough to deserve a place in the mainstream spotlight.
And the arguments for it? That Aftonbladet is a newspaper that is spewing out filthy lies and destroying everything in its path. This is a very subjective truth. Aftonbladet is a tabloid in newspaper form. A concept that was developed some 30-40 years ago and today more or less is on top in every country. The other big tabloids in Sweden; Expressen and GT are no better when it comes to portraying the objective truth without exaggerating headlines and first pages. The same goes for most newspapers abroad who sell single newspapers rather than subscriptions. The fact that Aftonbladet is the biggest means that it is also a symbol for this type of journalism. It's not worse than any other competitor, it's just more well known and successful at what it does.
If you want some good Swedish journalism, go to Dagens Nyheter or Svenska Dagbladet, but I wouldn't advice you to hold your breath when it comes to them introducing Esports as one of their top stories.
The reach that Aftonbladet has in Sweden is incredible. Last week they had 5.8 million unique visitors in a country with little over 9 million people (http://kiaindex.net/). In terms of publicity, you wont find anything even remotely close to that within our borders. I wonder if any type of mainstream media organization in the world this big has ever given Esports this much attention.
During the course of the tournament today, Aftonbladet had DH Valencia as their second story on their website - Sweden's biggest. After Thorzain won his semi finals I got a text message from a friend. He bought SC2 a few months back, played through the campaign and never started it again. As far as I know he never watched a single casted game. In the message he asked me if I was watching, and saying how he was glued to the screen. That he was waiting for the other semi final and was looking forward to watching Thorzain in the finals. How did he even knew about the tournament? Through Aftonbladet. That's good enough for me to see that this is actually a good thing for esports.
Say what you want about the tabloid format newspapers have nowadays. Im not too fond of it myself. But if I put all the bullshit aside and try to view this from an objective perspective for Esports, I don't see this as anything else than a great opportunity and a major step. It would be a damn shame not to capitalize from it.
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Aftonbladet attracts very different audiences, those who buy the newspaper afk/irl (for various reasons, be it sports, gossip, opinion pieces or whatever) and those who read it online for the same reasons and those who are interested in the internet tv shows or internet exclusive material. If you like reading the sports section but not the gossip news is logical to stop reading the sports news? Yes, if you are a very ideological person and no, if you are an average slob.
If you want to read/watch about e-sports material created by aftonbladet employees than you should support aftonbladet because if they see an interest in their material they will create more e-sports material. That will generate interest from corporations, (sponsorship) casual gamers and perhaps non-gamers to create even more buzz about this industry.
If you can't read their opinion pieces or angled news stories than you are very narrow minded. Because even if you are of the opposing view you should respect and be able to absorb their arguments as it might change your view. If you can't stand other peoples opinions than you are an intolerant person and sadly, confines yourself within a bubble that reinforces your own opinions and ideas.
If you for some reason believes that there political tone is reflected in the sports section or the e-sports section you are taking your criticism very far. There sensationalistic news reporting does reflect most of their reporting but in the sports section and perhaps in the future their e-sports section gives good coverage, analysis and background stories.
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i dont have visa nor mastercard.
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