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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 06 2011 18:39 GMT
#1601
On September 07 2011 03:32 TutsiRebel wrote:
he sounds like a little douche


Well, don't judge him yet. According to his statement, he really wants to go to Korea and had already made arrangements with NsHoSeo for free lodging and food. That was the main point why he wanted to part with SJG. Now, blizzard just handed him 10k for winning the Bnet Invitational, so let's see what he does with that.
MustSeeSC
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
September 06 2011 18:43 GMT
#1602
If i had the chance to get contracted on a pro team. id never fuck that up....
"Cry in the Dojo, Laugh in the Battlefield"
Truedot
Profile Joined August 2011
444 Posts
September 06 2011 19:15 GMT
#1603
On September 07 2011 03:00 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 02:27 Brainling wrote:
On September 07 2011 01:50 FliedLice wrote:
How the fuck does he find new teams stupid enough to pick him up all the time?


The same reason pro sports teams still sign guys with rap sheets and mental stability issues: Talent. Every coach and team manager thinks they can be "the one" to tame the talent.

That said, I've been poking around, and I don't even think Maj0r's reputation is deserved. Oh noes, he map hacked in BW years ago, and he called someone an "idiot" in a tournament. None of these things are as bad as things I've seen other pro players do. At worst he's guilty of young male immaturity, something I imagine 99% of this community is guilty of at some point.

Also, someone pointed this out about 70 pages back, but I think it bears repeating: People really overstate the business aspect of SC2. This is still a video game, and we are still a hobby community. Yes, I understand sponsors are involved (they were in BW too), but the amount of money changing hands just doesn't warrant the constant "this is a business!!!!!" you get every time this stuff comes up. No, it's a video game, with a very minor cottage industry cropping up around it. When millions of dollars start changing hands on a regular basis, we can start worrying about team managers having MBA's and the players giving canned answers in every interview because they don't want to upset Campbell's Soup.

Go take a look at the drama caused over standardizing jerseys . Peoples flipped out responses to that topic are basically proof in the pudding that this is still very much a hobby.


If that's the case then you haven't read much into Major's history.

And from what I can tell, your second point is "I believe that SC2 is still just a hobby, so Major can act however he wants". Did I understand that correctly?


pretty much. Serious sports are physically only, and entail that billions of dollars change hands/ are made every year. otherwise its a hobby, even though its full of businesses sponsoring and actual money being won and made for people's livelihood from the "hobby".

I used to spend my time not caring about people's language in chat. Until I got hit by blizz. Now I spend my time instigating people to verbal abusive levels, so I can ban them in turn. The circle of life.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
September 06 2011 19:23 GMT
#1604
On September 07 2011 04:15 Truedot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:00 Sein wrote:
On September 07 2011 02:27 Brainling wrote:
On September 07 2011 01:50 FliedLice wrote:
How the fuck does he find new teams stupid enough to pick him up all the time?


The same reason pro sports teams still sign guys with rap sheets and mental stability issues: Talent. Every coach and team manager thinks they can be "the one" to tame the talent.

That said, I've been poking around, and I don't even think Maj0r's reputation is deserved. Oh noes, he map hacked in BW years ago, and he called someone an "idiot" in a tournament. None of these things are as bad as things I've seen other pro players do. At worst he's guilty of young male immaturity, something I imagine 99% of this community is guilty of at some point.

Also, someone pointed this out about 70 pages back, but I think it bears repeating: People really overstate the business aspect of SC2. This is still a video game, and we are still a hobby community. Yes, I understand sponsors are involved (they were in BW too), but the amount of money changing hands just doesn't warrant the constant "this is a business!!!!!" you get every time this stuff comes up. No, it's a video game, with a very minor cottage industry cropping up around it. When millions of dollars start changing hands on a regular basis, we can start worrying about team managers having MBA's and the players giving canned answers in every interview because they don't want to upset Campbell's Soup.

Go take a look at the drama caused over standardizing jerseys . Peoples flipped out responses to that topic are basically proof in the pudding that this is still very much a hobby.


If that's the case then you haven't read much into Major's history.

And from what I can tell, your second point is "I believe that SC2 is still just a hobby, so Major can act however he wants". Did I understand that correctly?


pretty much. Serious sports are physically only, and entail that billions of dollars change hands/ are made every year. otherwise its a hobby, even though its full of businesses sponsoring and actual money being won and made for people's livelihood from the "hobby".


The majority of people here will disagree with you.
Just saying.
Truedot
Profile Joined August 2011
444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 19:30:46
September 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#1605
On September 07 2011 04:23 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 04:15 Truedot wrote:
On September 07 2011 03:00 Sein wrote:
On September 07 2011 02:27 Brainling wrote:
On September 07 2011 01:50 FliedLice wrote:
How the fuck does he find new teams stupid enough to pick him up all the time?


The same reason pro sports teams still sign guys with rap sheets and mental stability issues: Talent. Every coach and team manager thinks they can be "the one" to tame the talent.

That said, I've been poking around, and I don't even think Maj0r's reputation is deserved. Oh noes, he map hacked in BW years ago, and he called someone an "idiot" in a tournament. None of these things are as bad as things I've seen other pro players do. At worst he's guilty of young male immaturity, something I imagine 99% of this community is guilty of at some point.

Also, someone pointed this out about 70 pages back, but I think it bears repeating: People really overstate the business aspect of SC2. This is still a video game, and we are still a hobby community. Yes, I understand sponsors are involved (they were in BW too), but the amount of money changing hands just doesn't warrant the constant "this is a business!!!!!" you get every time this stuff comes up. No, it's a video game, with a very minor cottage industry cropping up around it. When millions of dollars start changing hands on a regular basis, we can start worrying about team managers having MBA's and the players giving canned answers in every interview because they don't want to upset Campbell's Soup.

Go take a look at the drama caused over standardizing jerseys . Peoples flipped out responses to that topic are basically proof in the pudding that this is still very much a hobby.


If that's the case then you haven't read much into Major's history.

And from what I can tell, your second point is "I believe that SC2 is still just a hobby, so Major can act however he wants". Did I understand that correctly?


pretty much. Serious sports are physically only, and entail that billions of dollars change hands/ are made every year. otherwise its a hobby, even though its full of businesses sponsoring and actual money being won and made for people's livelihood from the "hobby".


The majority of people here will disagree with you.
Just saying.


I was stating it from the point of view of the person who was calling it a hobby. so noone really disagrees with me here. In order to illustrate his silliness in both thinking its just a hobby and that as something less serious people deserve act how they want. I'm neither pro nor anti-major, I'm simple anti-bad argument.
I used to spend my time not caring about people's language in chat. Until I got hit by blizz. Now I spend my time instigating people to verbal abusive levels, so I can ban them in turn. The circle of life.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 06 2011 19:32 GMT
#1606
On September 07 2011 04:23 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 04:15 Truedot wrote:
On September 07 2011 03:00 Sein wrote:
On September 07 2011 02:27 Brainling wrote:
On September 07 2011 01:50 FliedLice wrote:
How the fuck does he find new teams stupid enough to pick him up all the time?


The same reason pro sports teams still sign guys with rap sheets and mental stability issues: Talent. Every coach and team manager thinks they can be "the one" to tame the talent.

That said, I've been poking around, and I don't even think Maj0r's reputation is deserved. Oh noes, he map hacked in BW years ago, and he called someone an "idiot" in a tournament. None of these things are as bad as things I've seen other pro players do. At worst he's guilty of young male immaturity, something I imagine 99% of this community is guilty of at some point.

Also, someone pointed this out about 70 pages back, but I think it bears repeating: People really overstate the business aspect of SC2. This is still a video game, and we are still a hobby community. Yes, I understand sponsors are involved (they were in BW too), but the amount of money changing hands just doesn't warrant the constant "this is a business!!!!!" you get every time this stuff comes up. No, it's a video game, with a very minor cottage industry cropping up around it. When millions of dollars start changing hands on a regular basis, we can start worrying about team managers having MBA's and the players giving canned answers in every interview because they don't want to upset Campbell's Soup.

Go take a look at the drama caused over standardizing jerseys . Peoples flipped out responses to that topic are basically proof in the pudding that this is still very much a hobby.


If that's the case then you haven't read much into Major's history.

And from what I can tell, your second point is "I believe that SC2 is still just a hobby, so Major can act however he wants". Did I understand that correctly?


pretty much. Serious sports are physically only, and entail that billions of dollars change hands/ are made every year. otherwise its a hobby, even though its full of businesses sponsoring and actual money being won and made for people's livelihood from the "hobby".


The majority of people here will disagree with you.
Just saying.


Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz there.

I wonder how Artosis feels about all this
Yargh
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
September 06 2011 19:34 GMT
#1607
On September 07 2011 04:29 Truedot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 04:23 Roggay wrote:
On September 07 2011 04:15 Truedot wrote:
On September 07 2011 03:00 Sein wrote:
On September 07 2011 02:27 Brainling wrote:
On September 07 2011 01:50 FliedLice wrote:
How the fuck does he find new teams stupid enough to pick him up all the time?


The same reason pro sports teams still sign guys with rap sheets and mental stability issues: Talent. Every coach and team manager thinks they can be "the one" to tame the talent.

That said, I've been poking around, and I don't even think Maj0r's reputation is deserved. Oh noes, he map hacked in BW years ago, and he called someone an "idiot" in a tournament. None of these things are as bad as things I've seen other pro players do. At worst he's guilty of young male immaturity, something I imagine 99% of this community is guilty of at some point.

Also, someone pointed this out about 70 pages back, but I think it bears repeating: People really overstate the business aspect of SC2. This is still a video game, and we are still a hobby community. Yes, I understand sponsors are involved (they were in BW too), but the amount of money changing hands just doesn't warrant the constant "this is a business!!!!!" you get every time this stuff comes up. No, it's a video game, with a very minor cottage industry cropping up around it. When millions of dollars start changing hands on a regular basis, we can start worrying about team managers having MBA's and the players giving canned answers in every interview because they don't want to upset Campbell's Soup.

Go take a look at the drama caused over standardizing jerseys . Peoples flipped out responses to that topic are basically proof in the pudding that this is still very much a hobby.


If that's the case then you haven't read much into Major's history.

And from what I can tell, your second point is "I believe that SC2 is still just a hobby, so Major can act however he wants". Did I understand that correctly?


pretty much. Serious sports are physically only, and entail that billions of dollars change hands/ are made every year. otherwise its a hobby, even though its full of businesses sponsoring and actual money being won and made for people's livelihood from the "hobby".


The majority of people here will disagree with you.
Just saying.


I was stating it from the point of view of the person who was calling it a hobby. so noone really disagrees with me here. In order to illustrate his silliness in both thinking its just a hobby and that as something less serious people deserve act how they want. I'm neither pro nor anti-major, I'm simple anti-bad argument.

Sorry, I should have read the whole quotation, but didnt bothered because of the wall of text.
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
September 06 2011 19:39 GMT
#1608
he should join EG
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 06 2011 19:43 GMT
#1609
If I had a team I would sign Major in a heartbeat and put him in that Korean House. His skills are sick and with sage and company he would become a player thats skill would overshadow all of his actions.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 06 2011 19:45 GMT
#1610
On September 06 2011 14:24 CatNzHat wrote:
Threatening to sue.... well threatening someone with a lawsuit is illegal....


You are incorrect. Also the word "threat" is misused by the majority of TL users when it comes to lawsuits. Informing someone you will take legal action can be considered a threat if it if used to intimidate. However, informing someone that you entered a contract with that you intend take legal action if they attempt to break their contract is fine and should be expected.

If you fail to pay your mortgage, the bank will send a letter that you are in default. In that letter, they will "threaten" to foreclose on you. That is not illegal and is required in almost every state.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
September 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#1611
On September 07 2011 03:00 Sein wrote:
And from what I can tell, your second point is "I believe that SC2 is still just a hobby, so Major can act however he wants". Did I understand that correctly?


I'm saying that constantly screaming "it's a business, you have to act like one" is overblown. It's not a business yet by the strictest sense, it's a cottage industry. It's still very much driven by outspoken, controversial, personalities (see: Destiny being one of the most successful streamers in the world, mostly because of his crazy personality).

If we are going to now start treating this as a strict corporate world business, then more than just Maj0r has some personality overhauling to do. We just went through this same BS when Destiny was cut from Complexity (for remarkably similar reasons). Now in the end, who do you think got the better end of that deal? The team who was trying to act suit and tie business, or the player who decided to be himself and just do his thing. If you answered the player, you'd be correct. Destiny's stream numbers are stronger than ever, and Complexity is still a middle tier team.

I think a lot of us just roll our eyes when people in this community start talking about SC2 being a business. Especially because so many people pick and choose the pieces of "being a business" they want to support (for instance, they want the sponsor dollars, but god forbid someone try and mandate a professional looking uniform). This is still a cottage industry, driven by a fan base that is remarkably male and young. Trying to conform the community into something safe for prime time TV is going to fail, horribly. It's just not there yet, both from a maturity and a dollars point of view. The money isn't big enough to cause people to think about it.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
September 06 2011 20:51 GMT
#1612
On September 07 2011 04:39 devPLEASE wrote:
he should join EG



iNcontroL would probably not put up with Major at all...
Zileas is my Homeboy
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#1613
On September 07 2011 05:51 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 04:39 devPLEASE wrote:
he should join EG



iNcontroL would probably not put up with Major at all...

Ow, if by any chance Maj0r ends up owning the foreign scene they'll make it work.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
September 06 2011 20:59 GMT
#1614
On September 07 2011 04:43 Mattchew wrote:
If I had a team I would sign Major in a heartbeat and put him in that Korean House. His skills are sick and with sage and company he would become a player thats skill would overshadow all of his actions.


You should use your hard earned money and start a SC2 team.
Put countless hours into it and try to maybe make it a profitable venture.
Make sure and setup a large number of clan wars and events for your players to attend etc..

Maybe try and get some marketing arrangements and advertising contracts based on the talent and notoriety of your players led by princess/terran/major/kitty.

Then please post how you feel when you lose clan wars because you star player doesn't feel like playing.

Please let us know how the meetings with sponsors go when the promised publicity of uniform adspace never materializes because your start player can't remember to pack his bags properly.

Please tell us about your profit/loss as a team as your contracted star player asks for a raise after a few months and one major tournament (don't forget to included how your angry sponsors affect your bottom line).

Also I would love to know about your personal stress when you need to be on constant PR duty putting out the flames when your pro star player BM's his team mates, his opponents, and lies repeatedly to win a few hundred dollars in a tournament he isn't eligible for.

Finally after you have delt with all of the headache above please let us know how you feel when your star gets a case of the grumpies because you didn't give him everything he wanted and leaves your team.
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:28:54
September 06 2011 21:21 GMT
#1615
edit wrong thread
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:29:13
September 06 2011 21:23 GMT
#1616
Sorry
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:25:35
September 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#1617
His career in SC2 isn't over unless he chooses it to be. Idra was independent for the better part of Starcraft 2. Matter of fact it was when he had his best results. You don't need with this so called "Greater Organization".

What specificity of his attitude doesn't belong in pro-gaming? My opinion is your attitude doesn't belong on forums, involving discussions you know very little of. His attitude may not belong in SixJax gaming or in most "Greater Organization".

But, most definitely his attitude is welcome in pro-gaming.
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
September 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#1618
On September 07 2011 06:25 inamorato wrote:
His career in SC2 isn't over unless he chooses it to be. Idra was independent for the better part of Starcraft 2. Matter of fact it was when he had his best results. You don't need with this so called "Greater Organization".

What specificity of his attitude doesn't belong in pro-gaming? My opinion is your attitude doesn't belong on forums, involving discussions you know very little of. His attitude may not belong in SixJax gaming or in most "Greater Organization".

But, most definitely his attitude is welcome in pro-gaming.


What do you mean independent? Idra was picked up by EG quite shortly after he left CJ.
Liudo
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
September 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#1619
On September 07 2011 05:51 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 04:39 devPLEASE wrote:
he should join EG



iNcontroL would probably not put up with Major at all...



He would not be given a choice if EG recruited MajOr.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
September 06 2011 21:41 GMT
#1620
On September 07 2011 06:40 Liudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 05:51 RoyaleBrainSlug wrote:
On September 07 2011 04:39 devPLEASE wrote:
he should join EG



iNcontroL would probably not put up with Major at all...



He would not be given a choice if EG recruited MajOr.


Yes he would as incontrol is the Captain of EG.
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