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Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 00:03:14
August 29 2011 00:01 GMT
#1221
hey guys, guess which race won another big one? zerg has no answers right now, and neither do i
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
August 29 2011 00:02 GMT
#1222
On August 29 2011 09:01 Cartel wrote:
hey guys, guess which race won another big one? hhahaahahahahahah


I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
August 29 2011 00:05 GMT
#1223
On August 29 2011 09:02 Figgy wrote:

I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.


of course im serious, are you serious? how many times does terran have to take it? how well does coca / drg have to play but make a mistake and never recover. how many t's in the top?
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
August 29 2011 00:06 GMT
#1224
On August 29 2011 09:05 Cartel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:02 Figgy wrote:

I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.


of course im serious, are you serious? how many times does terran have to take it? how well does coca / drg have to play but make a mistake and never recover. how many t's in the top?


im pretty sure that just because this is the balance discussion thread doesn't mean that you can call it just based on who won a tournament.
and my axe
Tossup
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States208 Posts
August 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#1225
On August 29 2011 09:02 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:01 Cartel wrote:
hey guys, guess which race won another big one? hhahaahahahahahah


I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.


you're right. Coaca should have won those last two games very convincingly. Especially that Shakuras Plateau game where he should have just traded armies after having done so much economic damage.
Crappy
Profile Joined July 2010
France224 Posts
August 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#1226
On August 29 2011 09:05 Cartel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:02 Figgy wrote:

I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.


of course im serious, are you serious? how many times does terran have to take it? how well does coca / drg have to play but make a mistake and never recover. how many t's in the top?


Coca just threw away too many unit in both games when he had a big advantage , that's it. ( and i don't play terran )
seoulsun
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands80 Posts
August 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#1227
terran are winning every tournament
o/
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
August 29 2011 00:08 GMT
#1228
On August 29 2011 09:05 Cartel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:02 Figgy wrote:

I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.


of course im serious, are you serious? how many times does terran have to take it? how well does coca / drg have to play but make a mistake and never recover. how many t's in the top?


You mean.. the player that made less mistakes won the games? man , that is seriously messed up.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 29 2011 00:10 GMT
#1229
On August 29 2011 09:07 seoulsun wrote:
terran are winning every tournament


Maybe it's because right now, there's A) more terran players at higher levels B) all of them are very good players.As much as I love Coca, he didn't play his best in those games.
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PPTouch
Profile Joined January 2011
99 Posts
August 29 2011 00:12 GMT
#1230
On August 29 2011 09:10 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:07 seoulsun wrote:
terran are winning every tournament


Maybe it's because right now, there's A) more terran players at higher levels B) all of them are very good players.As much as I love Coca, he didn't play his best in those games.


You forgot C) Protoss still are trying to find a way to hold off the 1-1-1 ensuring terran wins in PvT
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
August 29 2011 00:13 GMT
#1231
On August 29 2011 09:08 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:05 Cartel wrote:
On August 29 2011 09:02 Figgy wrote:

I sure hope you aren't serious.

Coca threw the last 2 games away after having a massive advantage. That's hardly any reason to call imbalance.


of course im serious, are you serious? how many times does terran have to take it? how well does coca / drg have to play but make a mistake and never recover. how many t's in the top?


You mean.. the player that made less mistakes won the games? man , that is seriously messed up.

To be fair Bomber made more mistakes, but they weren't as game changing for him (He also played a little better minus the mistakes).

I'm surprised there isn't any mention of toss bombing out hard despite trying all sorts of cute tricks and really playing with the meta game.
What does it matter how I loose it?
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 29 2011 00:15 GMT
#1232
Not getting combat shields isn't game changing? ^^
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 00:26:21
August 29 2011 00:21 GMT
#1233
On August 29 2011 09:10 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 09:07 seoulsun wrote:
terran are winning every tournament


Maybe it's because right now, there's A) more terran players at higher levels B) all of them are very good players.As much as I love Coca, he didn't play his best in those games.

The terran's are just better players argument is so bullshit. They don't get punished near as hard for mistakes, lose/pull half their scv's and can still pull out wins off mules, have tons of potentially game ending harrass options and the best/most micro rewarding T1 in the game. Being the best race both defensively and offensively is why there are so many T's, it's not because they're better players. Getting sick of watching games decided by 1 medivac drop or dirt cheap bunkers/blue flame runbys.

There isn't much mention of Toss bombing out this MLG simply because it's to be expected these days.
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
August 29 2011 00:21 GMT
#1234
What do you think, should Blizzard revert storm's old range?
It might help, no?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 29 2011 00:22 GMT
#1235
On August 29 2011 09:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Not getting combat shields isn't game changing? ^^


Well, to be fair I think it would have been if Coca had actually engaged Bombers army rather than counter attacking.
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highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
August 29 2011 00:25 GMT
#1236
I find it funny how zergs complain about Terran when protoss was not even in semi finals.

Since when did SC2 have 2 races?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 29 2011 00:26 GMT
#1237
On August 29 2011 09:15 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Not getting combat shields isn't game changing? ^^


As game changing as ignoring a major push at your doorstep whilst countering into an already somewhat defended natural? Twice?

Yeaaaah, anyone who says Coca would have won because of balance rather than some poor decision making needs to be lined up for flaming.

Regarding Protoss, there was still decent Protoss representation, but PvT is definitely struggle-street for P players at the moment. I expect 1.4 patch should rectify a lot of this anyway, though I've been of the opinion for some time now that Protoss is probably the race that's been least figured out in the professional scene. That's just my feel on it I guess, since most times Protoss players do something unique it's "cute~" rather than "wow effective!"
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sinvicta
Profile Joined May 2011
United States13 Posts
August 29 2011 00:27 GMT
#1238
Does anyone think Blizzard will do anything about Marines? I saw someone complain that a 75/25 Roach killing a 125/50 Stalker is ridiculous....what about 50/0 Marines killing pretty much everything?
Sukari
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia183 Posts
August 29 2011 00:30 GMT
#1239
On August 29 2011 09:27 sinvicta wrote:
Does anyone think Blizzard will do anything about Marines? I saw someone complain that a 75/25 Roach killing a 125/50 Stalker is ridiculous....what about 50/0 Marines killing pretty much everything?


But the argument is 1 roach killing 1 stalker.

Your argument is a X number of Marines killing everything.
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Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
August 29 2011 00:30 GMT
#1240
On August 29 2011 09:25 highsis wrote:
I find it funny how zergs complain about Terran when protoss was not even in semi finals.

Since when did SC2 have 2 races?


Since Zerg players got the upper hand in the ZvP metagame? :D
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