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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 23:29:59
July 10 2013 23:29 GMT
#11001
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote:
Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.

When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

User was temp banned for this post.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 10 2013 23:32 GMT
#11002
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote:
Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.

When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 23:39:34
July 10 2013 23:39 GMT
#11003
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote:
Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.

When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 10 2013 23:40 GMT
#11004
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote:
Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.

When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 10 2013 23:42 GMT
#11005
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote:
Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.

When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 10 2013 23:43 GMT
#11006
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote:
Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.

When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.


User was warned for this post
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12365 Posts
July 10 2013 23:45 GMT
#11007
come on guys... I have a trollish nature and even I think this is sad.

My understanding of the situation has always been that it is harder to get good with terran than it is to get good with protoss, but that once you're good, once you've reached that level of actually mastering the game and making few mistakes, then it becomes harder to win with protoss than with terran. Can't we get behind something like that? It explains both why scrubs are raging so hard ITT, and why protoss has historically less titles than the other two races.
No will to live, no wish to die
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 23:50:32
July 10 2013 23:50 GMT
#11008
On July 11 2013 08:43 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote:
[quote]
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?

Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.

Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.





17 minute 17 seconds

sup son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
July 11 2013 00:05 GMT
#11009
On July 11 2013 08:45 Nebuchad wrote:
come on guys... I have a trollish nature and even I think this is sad.

My understanding of the situation has always been that it is harder to get good with terran than it is to get good with protoss, but that once you're good, once you've reached that level of actually mastering the game and making few mistakes, then it becomes harder to win with protoss than with terran. Can't we get behind something like that? It explains both why scrubs are raging so hard ITT, and why protoss has historically less titles than the other two races.


Pretty much.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 00:34:29
July 11 2013 00:33 GMT
#11010
On July 11 2013 08:50 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:43 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.

Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu622rogbsA&t=17m17s

17 minute 17 seconds

sup son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clearly that proves it, you have it. The opinion of one player makes it fact.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 11 2013 00:40 GMT
#11011
On July 11 2013 09:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 08:50 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:43 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote:
[quote]
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.

All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu622rogbsA&t=17m17s

17 minute 17 seconds

sup son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clearly that proves it, you have it. The opinion of one player makes it fact.



His opinion certainly matters a lot more than yours.


Also, http://www.sc2replays.eu/search/player/?v=Grubby

what excuse for that?
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 11 2013 00:42 GMT
#11012
On July 11 2013 09:40 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:50 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:43 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu622rogbsA&t=17m17s

17 minute 17 seconds

sup son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clearly that proves it, you have it. The opinion of one player makes it fact.



His opinion certainly matters a lot more than yours.


Also, http://www.sc2replays.eu/search/player/?v=Grubby

what excuse for that?

Kid I am done with you, move on. Your just another terran martyr trying to prove how hard your life is playing your race.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 11 2013 00:44 GMT
#11013
On July 11 2013 09:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:40 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:50 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:43 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
[quote]


The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu622rogbsA&t=17m17s

17 minute 17 seconds

sup son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clearly that proves it, you have it. The opinion of one player makes it fact.



His opinion certainly matters a lot more than yours.


Also, http://www.sc2replays.eu/search/player/?v=Grubby

what excuse for that?

Kid I am done with you, move on. Your just another terran martyr trying to prove how hard your life is playing your race.



Claims Grubby is a fast player

Shown that Grubby is not a fast player

"kid"

:D

User was warned for this post
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 11 2013 00:53 GMT
#11014
On July 11 2013 09:40 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:50 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:43 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:42 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:40 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:39 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:32 Plansix wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:29 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.



The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.

Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.

(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)



You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?

and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.

And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.


Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.

Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu622rogbsA&t=17m17s

17 minute 17 seconds

sup son? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clearly that proves it, you have it. The opinion of one player makes it fact.



His opinion certainly matters a lot more than yours.


Also, http://www.sc2replays.eu/search/player/?v=Grubby

what excuse for that?

You may not have realized this, but MC and Oz are both on that page with APMs of over 200.

Meanwhile, Sjow has an APM barely over 100 and he beat Life.
Wobaq
Profile Joined June 2011
United States22 Posts
July 11 2013 01:02 GMT
#11015
On July 11 2013 09:53 Shiori wrote:
You may not have realized this, but MC and Oz are both on that page with APMs of over 200.

Meanwhile, Sjow has an APM barely over 100 and he beat Life.

What else has Sjow ever done?

And that's TvZ and not TvP so why are you even bringing it up.
sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
July 11 2013 01:05 GMT
#11016
On July 11 2013 10:02 Wobaq wrote:
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On July 11 2013 09:53 Shiori wrote:
You may not have realized this, but MC and Oz are both on that page with APMs of over 200.

Meanwhile, Sjow has an APM barely over 100 and he beat Life.

What else has Sjow ever done?

And that's TvZ and not TvP so why are you even bringing it up.


Sjow has won IEM!

http://aligulac.com/players/224-SjoW/

Check his rating goinnngg upppppppppp.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 11 2013 01:51 GMT
#11017
On July 11 2013 10:05 sibs wrote:
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On July 11 2013 10:02 Wobaq wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:53 Shiori wrote:
You may not have realized this, but MC and Oz are both on that page with APMs of over 200.

Meanwhile, Sjow has an APM barely over 100 and he beat Life.

What else has Sjow ever done?

And that's TvZ and not TvP so why are you even bringing it up.


Sjow has won IEM!

http://aligulac.com/players/224-SjoW/

Check his rating goinnngg upppppppppp.

Sjow is pretty good, against both protoss and zerg. He has not reached full terran boss level, raking in the ladies and ruining lives, but he is up there. I liked his game against life and he can only get better once he speeds up his game.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 02:41:01
July 11 2013 02:39 GMT
#11018
On July 11 2013 10:02 Wobaq wrote:
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On July 11 2013 09:53 Shiori wrote:
You may not have realized this, but MC and Oz are both on that page with APMs of over 200.

Meanwhile, Sjow has an APM barely over 100 and he beat Life.

What else has Sjow ever done?

And that's TvZ and not TvP so why are you even bringing it up.

What has Grubby done lately? Not a whole lot, as far as I can tell.

I'm bringing it up because, according to you, Terran is some sort of super duper hard race whereas Protoss is ezmode when, in fact, that's obviously not the case.
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
July 11 2013 02:41 GMT
#11019
When did this stop being a balance and not a player skill discussion thread?
C=('. ' Q)
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
July 11 2013 02:46 GMT
#11020
On July 11 2013 08:27 GreenGringo wrote:
Protoss players tend to be nerds, Terran players tend to be jocks. That's the general rule of thumb.

If it's any consolation to Terrans, I'm sure girls find them more attractive (at least before the age of 30).


Nah. Terran players are the nerds and Protoss players are the creative hipsters. The Protoss players get way more girls while the Terran players remain single till 30. At least from my group of SC2 friends.
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