On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote: Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote: Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote: Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote: Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote: Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
On July 11 2013 08:22 Plansix wrote: Your wrong and your examples are bad. You prove nothing and only claim that protoss is easier because you want it to be that way to justify your losses to it.
When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
come on guys... I have a trollish nature and even I think this is sad.
My understanding of the situation has always been that it is harder to get good with terran than it is to get good with protoss, but that once you're good, once you've reached that level of actually mastering the game and making few mistakes, then it becomes harder to win with protoss than with terran. Can't we get behind something like that? It explains both why scrubs are raging so hard ITT, and why protoss has historically less titles than the other two races.
On July 11 2013 08:23 Wobaq wrote: [quote] When's the last time you saw a 1/1/1 in HotS?
Protoss is easier. Everyone knows this. I never said anything about my losses and my best win rate is in TvP.
Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
On July 11 2013 08:45 Nebuchad wrote: come on guys... I have a trollish nature and even I think this is sad.
My understanding of the situation has always been that it is harder to get good with terran than it is to get good with protoss, but that once you're good, once you've reached that level of actually mastering the game and making few mistakes, then it becomes harder to win with protoss than with terran. Can't we get behind something like that? It explains both why scrubs are raging so hard ITT, and why protoss has historically less titles than the other two races.
On July 11 2013 08:26 Plansix wrote: [quote] Just because you say it a lot doesn't make it true. I know you want to think your so much better than the people in your league that play other races, but it just isn't that case.
Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
On July 11 2013 08:26 Wobaq wrote: [quote] Protoss is the objectively easier race in PvT.
All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote: [quote] All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
On July 11 2013 08:28 Plansix wrote: [quote] All right, this argument is over, you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about. I know your new to TL, but you want to avoid discussions like this outside of this thread. Calling one race easier generally goes over poorly.
The race that requires the least apm and mechanical skill is the easiest, I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Its ok to be wrong and have a warped view on the world. After all, Grubby and MC have really low APM.
(seriously kids, if you keep saying protoss is easier because I say so, I am just going to keep mocking you)
You are denying that Protoss requires less apm to be played effectively than the other races?
and don't know why you are bringing up Grubby. He is a slow player.
And one of the best WC3 players in the world, loved in China and known as the King of the Orcs. You know what WC3 players are known for? Their micro and APM.
Why bring up another game, especially one less demanding than SC2? Stay on topic please.
Yeah, kid, the discussion was over when you said Grubby was a slow player. Nothing to discuss further.
Sjow is pretty good, against both protoss and zerg. He has not reached full terran boss level, raking in the ladies and ruining lives, but he is up there. I liked his game against life and he can only get better once he speeds up his game.
On July 11 2013 09:53 Shiori wrote: You may not have realized this, but MC and Oz are both on that page with APMs of over 200.
Meanwhile, Sjow has an APM barely over 100 and he beat Life.
What else has Sjow ever done?
And that's TvZ and not TvP so why are you even bringing it up.
What has Grubby done lately? Not a whole lot, as far as I can tell.
I'm bringing it up because, according to you, Terran is some sort of super duper hard race whereas Protoss is ezmode when, in fact, that's obviously not the case.
On July 11 2013 08:27 GreenGringo wrote: Protoss players tend to be nerds, Terran players tend to be jocks. That's the general rule of thumb.
If it's any consolation to Terrans, I'm sure girls find them more attractive (at least before the age of 30).
Nah. Terran players are the nerds and Protoss players are the creative hipsters. The Protoss players get way more girls while the Terran players remain single till 30. At least from my group of SC2 friends.
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