• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:15
CET 10:15
KST 18:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket7Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA11
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2370 users

PlayXP article on NASL, S2CON situation - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
538 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 25 26 27 Next All
MagnusHyperion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States288 Posts
August 14 2011 13:31 GMT
#41
Wait, if this is true then why did FXOBoss just withdraw FXO from SC2Con?

I really wish we could get a straight run-down

I hope things work out for the best though! I've always felt that NASL is a wonderful organization. I think, despite the loss of Koreans, I will still buy a ticket for next season! Just to show my support.
UC Davis Fighting!!! Support CSL visit their webpage and watch their streams!
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
August 14 2011 13:32 GMT
#42
This Drama is getting really confusing, I can only make out that there's a heavy dispute between all these parties, I hope this can be worked out, or clarified
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 14 2011 13:34 GMT
#43
This shit is so ridiculous. Whether it's EG, Coach Lee, NASL, SC2Con, FXO or whatever, these organizations need to act like professionals and work out their differences in private behind the scenes rather than taking the fight onto community sites and writing kneejerk QQ posts at every first slight.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
August 14 2011 13:34 GMT
#44
On August 14 2011 22:31 MagnusHyperion wrote:
Wait, if this is true then why did FXOBoss just withdraw FXO from SC2Con?

I really wish we could get a straight run-down

I hope things work out for the best though! I've always felt that NASL is a wonderful organization. I think, despite the loss of Koreans, I will still buy a ticket for next season! Just to show my support.


You realize these are two completely different situations, right?
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 14 2011 13:35 GMT
#45
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
August 14 2011 13:37 GMT
#46
On August 14 2011 22:34 red4ce wrote:
This shit is so ridiculous. Whether it's EG, Coach Lee, NASL, SC2Con, FXO or whatever, these organizations need to act like professionals and work out their differences in private behind the scenes rather than taking the fight onto community sites and writing kneejerk QQ posts at every first slight.


agree, this never ending drama is so absurd. Im getting tired of it. (at first it was fun, now i just get tired and sick of it)

please, sit down in the boat
If you dont do it, someone else will
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
August 14 2011 13:37 GMT
#47
On August 14 2011 22:35 Talin wrote:
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.


so dont sign the contract?

nasl have done nothing wrong.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 14 2011 13:38 GMT
#48
On August 14 2011 22:34 red4ce wrote:
This shit is so ridiculous. Whether it's EG, Coach Lee, NASL, SC2Con, FXO or whatever, these organizations need to act like professionals and work out their differences in private behind the scenes rather than taking the fight onto community sites and writing kneejerk QQ posts at every first slight.

You are right. This is getting ridiculous and very confusing. If this is a new kind of PR then wow it's a mindboggling technique.
o choro é livre
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
August 14 2011 13:39 GMT
#49
On August 14 2011 22:35 Talin wrote:
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.


You obviously have no idea how business works. You ALWAYS have contracts. A deal without a contract is no deal at all.
Moderator
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 14 2011 13:39 GMT
#50
Okay. Several things/possibilities going on in my mind.

1. Korean politics between the teams and the S2CON. The usual blackmail stuff.
2. Lack of communication between NASL and effectively anyone in Korea. They should get a Korean liason or PR rep. Using the media/public forums to establish communication is stupid.
3. S2CON, NASL and other parties using TL.net as their media outlet. It's ridiculous. It's unprofessional. Use twitter or your own website or a proper news outlet, and let a TL member link that source here. Using TL as the first means of public communication is amateurish.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Azz
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia65 Posts
August 14 2011 13:40 GMT
#51
It seems like S2CON has expressed their opinion of participation in NASL but has made them 'aware' that they 'may choose to make their own decisions' hint hint WE DONT WANT YOU TO BUT U CAN IF U WANT TO ANYWAYS.

politics.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 14 2011 13:43 GMT
#52
Here we go again.
We really need sub-forum for sc2 drama
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 14 2011 13:46 GMT
#53
On August 14 2011 22:39 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:35 Talin wrote:
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.


You obviously have no idea how business works. You ALWAYS have contracts. A deal without a contract is no deal at all.

Well maybe in USA but I know a couple of countries where a lot of deals are sealed with a nothing more than a formality.
o choro é livre
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
August 14 2011 13:46 GMT
#54
On August 14 2011 22:39 tyCe wrote:
Okay. Several things/possibilities going on in my mind.

1. Korean politics between the teams and the S2CON. The usual blackmail stuff.
2. Lack of communication between NASL and effectively anyone in Korea. They should get a Korean liason or PR rep. Using the media/public forums to establish communication is stupid.
3. S2CON, NASL and other parties using TL.net as their media outlet. It's ridiculous. It's unprofessional. Use twitter or your own website or a proper news outlet, and let a TL member link that source here. Using TL as the first means of public communication is amateurish.


S2CON made official statements, one regarding NASL and another regarding FXO in their website, which are translated by TL members.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 13:49:20
August 14 2011 13:48 GMT
#55
On August 14 2011 22:46 AlBundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:39 Myles wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:35 Talin wrote:
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.


You obviously have no idea how business works. You ALWAYS have contracts. A deal without a contract is no deal at all.

Well maybe in USA but I know a couple of countries where a lot of deals are sealed with a nothing more than a formality.


Really? That's crazy imo. I don't see how you can agree to something and not put it in writing. Don't get me wrong, I understand preliminary agreements and such are often made on a verbal basis, but they're always written into contracts at some point before everything is supposed to happen.
Moderator
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 14 2011 13:50 GMT
#56
Well it seems communicating with Korean teams is hard. Even FXO, and they are in Korea, were dealing supposedly with someone from sc2con, but later we find out he actually does not speak for teams/managers and players. It seems that sc2con is kind of disorganized as rumors are flying everywhere and since there is no proper channel they are the only thing people trying to communicate with sc2con have to work with.

NASL should not have publicized the rumors (about sC and MvP team), on the other hand all this denial from sc2con and Korean teams at this point is starting to look more than suspicious. Especially since it is not like this is the only case of them not really having good grasp on the situation as seen in the whole TSL thing. A lot of coverup going everywhere and for the time being it seems noone is to be trusted, so frankly responses from sc2con and Korean teams are just as useless and untrustworthy as NASL statements (probably more).
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 14 2011 13:51 GMT
#57
On August 14 2011 22:48 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:46 AlBundy wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:39 Myles wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:35 Talin wrote:
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.


You obviously have no idea how business works. You ALWAYS have contracts. A deal without a contract is no deal at all.

Well maybe in USA but I know a couple of countries where a lot of deals are sealed with a nothing more than a formality.


Really? That's crazy imo. I don't see how you can agree to something and not put it in writing.

It may be related to the country's culture, some people have a traditionnal way of doing business. But in this case, you are right, NASL and Koreans absolutely need contracts, and need to enforce them.
o choro é livre
Ferox77
Profile Joined October 2010
United States59 Posts
August 14 2011 13:53 GMT
#58
Why can’t NASL just realize that the Koreans do not want to participate in the league. IMO they look kind of pathetic begging the Koreans to play. NASL should not cater to anyone, just let the players who want an opportunity “apply” and then pick from those.
no amount of creativity is gonna get a zergling past a wallin or an overlord past a marine - IdrA
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
August 14 2011 13:53 GMT
#59
Wow nasl really jumped the gun on their accusations. They should have said that "korean teams are not participating in NASL anymore" and left it at that instead of making baseless accusations.

Pretty ridiculous and unproffesional on NASL's part since they seem to pretty much have no idea whats going on.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 14 2011 13:55 GMT
#60
On August 14 2011 22:48 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:46 AlBundy wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:39 Myles wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:35 Talin wrote:
To be honest, requiring contracts and deposits just to participate in what's technically an online qualifier tournament (which the whole online portion of NASL is) is just not sensible at all in the first place.


You obviously have no idea how business works. You ALWAYS have contracts. A deal without a contract is no deal at all.

Well maybe in USA but I know a couple of countries where a lot of deals are sealed with a nothing more than a formality.


Really? That's crazy imo. I don't see how you can agree to something and not put it in writing. Don't get me wrong, I understand preliminary agreements and such are often made on a verbal basis, but they're always written into contracts at some point before everything is supposed to happen.

In more than few places oral contracts are as binding as written one, but you need to be able to prove that they actually happened in case of court dispute.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 25 26 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
07:30
Playoffs
Classic vs ReynorLIVE!
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
Crank 1134
Tasteless754
IndyStarCraft 136
Rex81
3DClanTV 48
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Crank 1134
Tasteless 754
IndyStarCraft 136
Rex 81
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2196
Shuttle 1772
Hyuk 1137
actioN 875
Zeus 823
Flash 815
EffOrt 578
BeSt 444
Killer 411
Aegong 142
[ Show more ]
Soma 115
Backho 111
Mind 71
ToSsGirL 69
Dewaltoss 55
soO 52
zelot 48
Sacsri 39
Light 28
sorry 26
yabsab 22
Shinee 17
Movie 16
Sharp 16
Sexy 13
Pusan 11
HiyA 10
Bale 10
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm88
League of Legends
JimRising 539
Counter-Strike
olofmeister567
shoxiejesuss431
zeus3
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr28
Other Games
summit1g14541
ceh9487
crisheroes346
C9.Mang0258
Fuzer 208
Mew2King83
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10883
Other Games
gamesdonequick633
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH256
• LUISG 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo896
• Stunt500
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 46m
BSL: GosuLeague
11h 46m
RSL Revival
22h 16m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
BSL 21
2 days
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
IPSL
3 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
3 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.