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PlayXP article on NASL, S2CON situation - Page 2

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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 14 2011 13:12 GMT
#21
dont even know what to believe anymore!!! : d

everything seems so drama-full at the moment, maybe soon someone can actually just explain wtf is going on
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
August 14 2011 13:15 GMT
#22
On August 14 2011 22:01 flakmonkey wrote:
sC didn't wish to participate in NASL? That doesn't make any sense to me. Why would he attempt to qualify for the tournament in the first place?

I'm wondering this as well. Didn't he win the Season 2 qualifiers? Seems very strange to express a will to not compete after that. :v

That said, this whole situation with NASL/SC2Con is very confusing.
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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
August 14 2011 13:15 GMT
#23
On August 14 2011 22:01 flakmonkey wrote:
sC didn't wish to participate in NASL? That doesn't make any sense to me. Why would he attempt to qualify for the tournament in the first place?

Perhaps he re-evaluated his short-term goals since his qualification attempt.
Williammm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia908 Posts
August 14 2011 13:16 GMT
#24
They saw what happened with the experience of the players that participated and the outcome of NASL. Whether those problems have been addressed or not, it leaves a very bitter after taste and aversion of the players to participate in the events.

For example if you've been to a restaurant once and you've experienced terrible service, and served disgusting food; as well as everyone else saying the place is shit. Would you want to go there again? The likelihood you're going to give it a second chance is slim.

The players and coaches/managers attempted to request some benefits from NASL as repercussions to the disadvantages the players may suffer such as a disrupted sleep routine which may affect their play in other events (GSL which is vastly more important than NASL to the Koreans) as well as the fact that the teams themselves do not have much money to support so many securities deposits for their players that do qualify let alone the flight. FXO (previous Fou's budget was very tight as mentioned by Choya quoted by FXOBoss). I doubt other teams are in much better conditions except maybe Slayers. Even Slayers themselves do not wish to participate as shown by Boxer's withdrawal from season 2.

After all this shitstorm, I doubt the players would want to participate in season 2 as shown by many players withdrawal and aversion to even participate in the event.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 14 2011 13:18 GMT
#25
There is the smell of bullshit everywhere. The only things we know for sure are that korean players DID sign contracts to play. Then they tried to renegotiate, then they decided that they didnt want to play after all. Somewhere in between that mess was negotiating collectively with mr chae and players pulling out without reason. "Did not want to participate" is the poorest excuse ive ever heard. Why qualify and put your name down on paper?
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
August 14 2011 13:21 GMT
#26
On August 14 2011 22:15 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:01 flakmonkey wrote:
sC didn't wish to participate in NASL? That doesn't make any sense to me. Why would he attempt to qualify for the tournament in the first place?

Perhaps he re-evaluated his short-term goals since his qualification attempt.

i think sC attempted while they're still discussing with NASL about the money for plane tickets and hotels, but now since NASL declined that, sC refused to participate.
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Azureflames
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
August 14 2011 13:21 GMT
#27
Doesn't seem as if we'll ever know how it actually went down. Stinks of poor communication and everyone trying to save face.
Williammm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia908 Posts
August 14 2011 13:21 GMT
#28
On August 14 2011 22:18 T0fuuu wrote:
There is the smell of bullshit everywhere. The only things we know for sure are that korean players DID sign contracts to play. Then they tried to renegotiate, then they decided that they didnt want to play after all. Somewhere in between that mess was negotiating collectively with mr chae and players pulling out without reason. "Did not want to participate" is the poorest excuse ive ever heard. Why qualify and put your name down on paper?


We don't know who signed yet and who didn't. But it does sound like Korean players signed, then heard how shit it was since the finals took place after qualifiers. Then got disgusted and are trying to find ways to withdraw. Honestly NASL were piss poor in their whole management of the tournament.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
August 14 2011 13:21 GMT
#29
Right, all the teams just happened to withdraw independently, after all (most?) signing contracts and having their players even attempt to qualify
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
August 14 2011 13:22 GMT
#30
So wtf is actually going on then? Im slightly lost here. why did the Korean teams drop out then? So late too. Something must have happened if you ask me.
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 14 2011 13:22 GMT
#31
never trust one side, thats all there is to it, actually...dont believe anything =)
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 14 2011 13:23 GMT
#32
Lol this is such a big clusterfuck now I really don't know what's going on anymore.
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
August 14 2011 13:23 GMT
#33
On August 14 2011 22:22 eu.exodus wrote:
So wtf is actually going on then? Im slightly lost here. why did the Korean teams drop out then? So late too. Something must have happened if you ask me.

The teams and the players decided to not participate for their own reasons that were not related to SC2Con
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Azureflames
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
August 14 2011 13:23 GMT
#34
On August 14 2011 22:21 Williammm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:18 T0fuuu wrote:
There is the smell of bullshit everywhere. The only things we know for sure are that korean players DID sign contracts to play. Then they tried to renegotiate, then they decided that they didnt want to play after all. Somewhere in between that mess was negotiating collectively with mr chae and players pulling out without reason. "Did not want to participate" is the poorest excuse ive ever heard. Why qualify and put your name down on paper?


We don't know who signed yet and who didn't. But it does sound like Korean players signed, then heard how shit it was since the finals took place after qualifiers. Then got disgusted and are trying to find ways to withdraw. Honestly NASL were piss poor in their whole management of the tournament.


On August 13 2011 02:57 NASL.tv wrote:
WeMadeFox contract signed July 25th. Prime contracted signed July 26th. oGs contracts signed July 26th. So from the period in which they were signed (July 25-26), it took TEN days for Mr.Chae (not even a person from SC2Con) to tell me that the Korean players had issues. After I responded, it took another FIVE days (August 9th) for Mr.Chae to notify the NASL that Koreans would not play in Season 2.


So we know at least those three teams signed.
Williammm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia908 Posts
August 14 2011 13:24 GMT
#35
On August 14 2011 22:22 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
never trust one side, thats all there is to it, actually...dont believe anything =)


QFT, all we can say now is NASL just took a dive in star studdedness and skill level
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 14 2011 13:24 GMT
#36
On August 14 2011 22:18 T0fuuu wrote:
There is the smell of bullshit everywhere. The only things we know for sure are that korean players DID sign contracts to play. Then they tried to renegotiate, then they decided that they didnt want to play after all. Somewhere in between that mess was negotiating collectively with mr chae and players pulling out without reason. "Did not want to participate" is the poorest excuse ive ever heard. Why qualify and put your name down on paper?

FXOboss confirmed that sC did not wish to play in the FXO leaves sc2con thread.
Williammm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia908 Posts
August 14 2011 13:25 GMT
#37
On August 14 2011 22:23 Azureflames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:21 Williammm wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:18 T0fuuu wrote:
There is the smell of bullshit everywhere. The only things we know for sure are that korean players DID sign contracts to play. Then they tried to renegotiate, then they decided that they didnt want to play after all. Somewhere in between that mess was negotiating collectively with mr chae and players pulling out without reason. "Did not want to participate" is the poorest excuse ive ever heard. Why qualify and put your name down on paper?


We don't know who signed yet and who didn't. But it does sound like Korean players signed, then heard how shit it was since the finals took place after qualifiers. Then got disgusted and are trying to find ways to withdraw. Honestly NASL were piss poor in their whole management of the tournament.


Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 02:57 NASL.tv wrote:
WeMadeFox contract signed July 25th. Prime contracted signed July 26th. oGs contracts signed July 26th. So from the period in which they were signed (July 25-26), it took TEN days for Mr.Chae (not even a person from SC2Con) to tell me that the Korean players had issues. After I responded, it took another FIVE days (August 9th) for Mr.Chae to notify the NASL that Koreans would not play in Season 2.


So we know at least those three teams signed.


Yeah but which players though? This seems more like an individual thing, then the players went crying to their teams about the change of heart
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
August 14 2011 13:29 GMT
#38
Right now Sc2Con seems like the most worthless SC2 entity that keeps on appearing in bad SC2 press releases.
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Azureflames
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 13:32:13
August 14 2011 13:29 GMT
#39
On August 14 2011 22:25 Williammm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 22:23 Azureflames wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:21 Williammm wrote:
On August 14 2011 22:18 T0fuuu wrote:
There is the smell of bullshit everywhere. The only things we know for sure are that korean players DID sign contracts to play. Then they tried to renegotiate, then they decided that they didnt want to play after all. Somewhere in between that mess was negotiating collectively with mr chae and players pulling out without reason. "Did not want to participate" is the poorest excuse ive ever heard. Why qualify and put your name down on paper?


We don't know who signed yet and who didn't. But it does sound like Korean players signed, then heard how shit it was since the finals took place after qualifiers. Then got disgusted and are trying to find ways to withdraw. Honestly NASL were piss poor in their whole management of the tournament.


On August 13 2011 02:57 NASL.tv wrote:
WeMadeFox contract signed July 25th. Prime contracted signed July 26th. oGs contracts signed July 26th. So from the period in which they were signed (July 25-26), it took TEN days for Mr.Chae (not even a person from SC2Con) to tell me that the Korean players had issues. After I responded, it took another FIVE days (August 9th) for Mr.Chae to notify the NASL that Koreans would not play in Season 2.


So we know at least those three teams signed.


Yeah but which players though? This seems more like an individual thing, then the players went crying to their teams about the change of heart


The way it's phrased seems to imply all the players from those teams expected to participate signed, but I suppose that could also not be the case. Meh.

edit: And as far as an 'individual' thing, what makes you think it was an individual thing? The way the Korean articles seem to be portraying it is that every single person made their own independent decision and they all made the same one. Seems really odd that not even a single person would opt to go, especially after the announcement that nearly all Korean players were pulling out. You'd think at least ONE, if not more, would opt to go due to the very high probability of placing higher and making some good money.
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
August 14 2011 13:31 GMT
#40
Now that FXO has left the SC2con organization I'm inclined to believe that Koreans are lying about this. I think there is a conspiracy within most of the korean teams to either get their way or the highway.

I mean think about it, if they can pose special requirements to NASL, what stops them for posing requirements to dreamhack, ISL, IPL, etc...

Hopefully Blizzard steps in if things get too out of hand and realize that global e-sports is more important than few korean teams.

I also think GOMTV has a lot of saying just because of the new partnership with MSL.
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