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On August 14 2011 21:57 farnham wrote: in other words sc2con did nothing and got blamed for a crime they didnt commit and the korean teams just did not want to deal with NASL
lol yeah of course not, las time a korean team lost a member there. You gotta remember that.
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LOL I knew sc2con had no power over these kind of things... they are just an organization set out to protect Korean players from injustice within Korea (as they stated).
Basically, this article is saying NASL is full of crap and they lied to everyone in the foreign scene how it's all the Korean's fault. (I'm not surprised because even Boxer doesn't like NASL)
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On August 15 2011 14:01 FidoDido wrote: LOL I knew sc2con had no power over these kind of things... they are just an organization set out to protect Korean players from injustice within Korea (as they stated).
Basically, this article is saying NASL is full of crap and they lied to everyone in the foreign scene how it's all the Korean's fault. (I'm not surprised because even Boxer doesn't like NASL) All this article is saying that it isn't an official sc2con decision and that they aren't preventing players from being in the NASL.
There is still the whole Korean teams signing contracts and then breaking them thing though, you know the thing that completely screwed the NASL.
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America + Canada = nasl bashes koreans + SC2con, fuck SCSI2.con!!!!!!
SC2-teams explain, america + Canada=ihop lord i just dont know what to think..
I have one word for u all
BIAS
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On August 14 2011 23:00 SimDawg wrote: If Boss withdrew from SC2Con because of 1 person, then there's no reason that all of this couldn't be true from SC2Con's point of view as far as NASL goes. I don't know how NASL managed to piss off every single Korean in the world, but seems like that might be the case.
You piss off Boxer and you pretty much piss off every other Korean related to e-sports.
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On August 15 2011 14:01 FidoDido wrote: LOL I knew sc2con had no power over these kind of things... they are just an organization set out to protect Korean players from injustice within Korea (as they stated).
Basically, this article is saying NASL is full of crap and they lied to everyone in the foreign scene how it's all the Korean's fault. (I'm not surprised because even Boxer doesn't like NASL)
Boxer and NASL are on good terms with each other. That puts a needle in your bubble.
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On August 15 2011 15:01 whateverpeeps wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 14:01 FidoDido wrote: LOL I knew sc2con had no power over these kind of things... they are just an organization set out to protect Korean players from injustice within Korea (as they stated).
Basically, this article is saying NASL is full of crap and they lied to everyone in the foreign scene how it's all the Korean's fault. (I'm not surprised because even Boxer doesn't like NASL) Boxer and NASL are on good terms with each other. That puts a needle in your bubble.
On such good terms that his entire team has pulled out of NASL? A team that has no association with SC2con?
He might not be angry with them, but he wasn't pleased with the arrangements either.
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NASL is just going to have to be a foreigner based tournament until korean teams can find a way to get proper sponsors.
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This is why you wait for the whole story to come out before passing judgment.
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Xeris is a good guy though. He didn't mean to steal those chairs.
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On August 15 2011 16:28 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 15:01 whateverpeeps wrote:On August 15 2011 14:01 FidoDido wrote: LOL I knew sc2con had no power over these kind of things... they are just an organization set out to protect Korean players from injustice within Korea (as they stated).
Basically, this article is saying NASL is full of crap and they lied to everyone in the foreign scene how it's all the Korean's fault. (I'm not surprised because even Boxer doesn't like NASL) Boxer and NASL are on good terms with each other. That puts a needle in your bubble. On such good terms that his entire team has pulled out of NASL? A team that has no association with SC2con? He might not be angry with them, but he wasn't pleased with the arrangements either. Sure, he may not have liked NASL's arrangements, but you know what he didn't do? Sign the contract, and then back out on it.
He withdrew from the NASL on his own volition and that's fine. There wouldn't be any problem if the Koreans withdrew before signing contracts and what not. But some of them signed contracts and are now breaking them.
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Is it just me or do Korean coaches seem kinda shady........every Korean "individually" chose to back out? I don't buy that, and $50,000 isn't worth the hassle? All these guys do is live in the same house and play starcraft! In fairness NASL seems like they need to make it easier for the players.
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Didn't Mr. Chae once tell us that Koreans would sacrifice a lot to participate in GSL if it was american or european?
Because, I'm confused. Mr. Chae obviously thinks more foreigners should come to Seoul, one of the more expensive cities in the entire world, and participate in the GSL.
Now, the koreans won't even participate in a foreign online league where Ro16 are played 'on LAN' over a weekend?
LOLK.
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Did anyone actually expect MVP to speak out agaisn't Sc2con?
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Thank you for the translation! Hard to make sense of this situation at the moment!
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Koreans laying the smackdown even in the arena of PR..
I believe I speak for NASL when I say... aaawwwwkwwwaaaarrddd...
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embarrassing actions by nasl
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Honestly, who gives a crap about all this PR bullshit?
Nobody denies that the Korean players were given a totally reasonable offer.
Nobody denies that they, as a whole, are refusing to play.
I realize that, as Starcraft fans, we all are inclined to treat Koreans like deities who can do no wrong, but sure seems like they're being sort of snobbish in this case. I would _love_ to see Koreans participating in more foreign tournaments, particularly as their scene is cash-strapped, but it's downright asinine for people to expect that they get super-special treatment for every one.
Don't see what NASL could have done.
-Cross
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There seems to be a huge ongoing communication problem on many fronts among Korean SC2 Teams and Non-Korean SC2 Teams as well as the SC2Com. It was first with EG and now this.
Hopefully, we can get thing resolved and continue to have a good relationship with Korean teams/SC2Com.
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