Korean teams withdraw from NASL - Page 56

On August 12 2011 10:49 ComusLoM wrote:

$2000 guaranteed is more than enough to cover for flights and expenses.

On August 12 2011 10:51 Veritask wrote:

It isn't though. I just looked up a round trip flight over a weekend from Seoul to LA and it's $2100 per person just for the plane tickets

On August 12 2011 10:52 k!llua wrote:


Can someone, for the love of fucking God, convince the SC2Con to start acting professionally. Not tomorrow, not next week, not when HotS is release, but TODAY.

Absolutely fucking appaling.

Now that I've gone and said that, can someone apply some "journalistic ethics" (while the bile slowly creeps up my throat, burning my oesophagus) and get some quotes from the Koreans?

On August 12 2011 10:52 mcc wrote:

This is stupid argument. Not all tournaments/leagues are about best of the world. Was Assembly about best of the world, was IEM, is some local European cup ? Competitive league means there is competition present, you do not need Koreans for that.

If you call foreigner games low level, watch GSL and ignore NASL, others might do it the other way around and others might watch both. (Just to note I play low level games, not top NA/EU players).

On August 12 2011 10:51 JSy wrote:
Was looking around PlayXP for any response. Didn't find anything official, but here are some comments on the story (which was translated by ColdViolet) from PlayXP users.

Link to PlayXP: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/global/view.php?article_id=3284548


GxPray (2011-08-12 09:21:52 KST)
[Who] are they kidding? They'll fail to draw a large audience without Koreans
장난하나 한국애들 안하면 흥행 실패인데


케이스 (2011-08-12 09:26:25 KST)
Hrm.. It's true that Korean players have merit as [SC2] stars/celebrities but.. to say 'we will participate for you, so you should do this for us' doesn't seem right. It should be a festive[?] gathering.

It's just... rather than 'Due to several difficult circumstances, we will withdraw' saying 'We need you to this and that for us because we are experiencing some hardship. You've done some things but it's not enough' frankly does look bad.
흠.. 한국 선수들이 스타성이든 뭐든 분명 메리트 있는 집단이긴 하지만.. 우리 참가하니까 이거 저거 해줘~ 라는건 좀 아닌 거 같네요.. 말그대로 축제의 한 장으로 이뤄져야 할 곳임이 분명한데...
그냥.. 우린 여러가지 여건으로 참가하기 힘드니까 빠질께... 가 아니고.. 우리 힘드니까 이러저러 해줘.. 몇개 해줬찌만 부족하니까 빠질께... 는 참.. 좀 안좋게 보이는건 사실이네요.


아이유토스 (2011-08-12 09:27:15 KST) (lol username: IUtoss)
Seems sending many players will be difficult [note: for Korean teams or NASL?]. Maybe just the winner and runner-up? That might be best. Expenses and all..
이제 많이 가는것은 힘들듯 하구요, 우승자나 준우승자 정도? 이렇게 뽑아서 가는게 좋을 듯 합니다. 경비 문제도 그렇고 ...


피베 (2011-08-12 09:33:11 KST)
This is actually for the best. 4~5 participants is about right. We almost had so many Korean players that the roster would be almost 50% Korean...

A Korean-dominated roster might enhance performance or raise the quality of games but I think it ruins the flavor [of NASL] as a foreign tournament and might actually harm its popularity [or growth].

We [Korean palyers] shouldn't over-extend ourselves trying to participate and though both parties may be a little disappointed by what has happened, I don't think the result itself is bad.
차라리 잘됐습니다. 4~5명씩만 참가하는게 맞지 이번에보면 정말 대거 참여해서
완전 한국선수들이 50%를 넘어갈정도였으니..
한국선수판이 되면 경기력이나 게임의 질은 높아지겠지만
해외대회라는게 무색해지고 흥행에도 안좋은영향을 끼칠수있다고 생각합니다.
우리도 무리해서 가는건 안좋다고 보고 서로 아쉬운부분은 있겠지만 나쁘지않은 결과라고 봐요.

Frostmourne. (2011-08-12 10:05:32 KST)
But NASL offering $2000 was a [thoughtful] concession on their part...
It's true Korean players are good but I wonder if they aren't expecting too much special treatment.
Furthermore, because the NASL format is different from MLG, an invited player may drop out early and return a lot less [to NASL] on their investment.
근데 nasl측에서도 2천불이면 나름 배려해준거같은데...
한국선수가 잘하는건 맞지만 너무 특권을 바라는건 아닌지..
게다가 nasl은 mlg와 경기방식이 달라서 초대했다가 바로 광탈하면 투자 대비 효율도 별로고


And some humorous ones..


CarlitoXPn (2011-08-12 09:08:53 KST)
Assuming this is true.. wtf Mr. Chae??? Emphasizing that being a GSL champion more than covers travel expenses and leaves plenty of profit he calls players not participating strange, and then he says something like this..;
이게 사실이라는 전제하에, 채정원은 모하는 놈인지 모르겠네요. 지에셀 상금을 볼때, 1등하면 모든 소요 경비를 다 회수하고도 이익이 엄청나다는 걸 강조하면서, 안오는 놈들 이상하다 그랬던 놈이, 어찌 저런 소릴 하누;


CarlitoXPn (2011-08-12 09:09:53 KST)
I got too excited and read the ps too late. Mr. Chae, I'm sorry.
흥분해서 ps를 늦게 봤네요. 채정원 해설님 미안합니다.
GxPray (2011-08-12 09:21:52 KST)

감염된불사조 (2011-08-12 09:54:32 KST)
All because too many Kimchi-mans participatingㅋㅋ ㅋㅋ It should be fine if only 4~5 players went.
김치맨이 너무많이참가해서 그런가보네 ㅋㅋ ㅋㅋ4~5명만 가면 괸찮을거같은데


crowley (2011-08-12 10:09:07 KST)
Mr. Chae is busy enough already and now he's gonna be troll'd by kids who didn't read this carefully [i.e., who didn't RTFA!]

Even though I and everyone knows and understand that the Korean teams are struggling financially, it is still a little disappointing [that they won't be able to participate] T T
채정원님 안그래도 일도 많으실텐데 이거 글 대충 읽은 애들 때문에 까일까봐 걱정이 일단 되네요
한국팀들이 재정 상황이 매우 어려운건 누구나 다 아는 사실이지만 개인적으로는 좀 많이 아쉽네요ㅠㅠ

On August 12 2011 10:53 m0s1n0 wrote:
I am not really interested in ALL the comments. Can just someone say me shortly if there is anything new about NaDa and MC.

As i know so far NASL contacted SK Gaming? Is there anything more yet?

On August 12 2011 10:54 Quesa wrote:


Out of curiosity, I just went to Koreanair.com and checked how much an economy flight booked 2 weeks in advance from Seoul to LAX. Round trip for the cheapest option: $2,404.83

On August 12 2011 10:55 dAPhREAk wrote:


try not buying the ticket at the last minute; there was no reason for this to become a last minute issue.

On August 12 2011 10:56 Xeris wrote:


I have contacted SK Gaming and compLexity about their partnership with oGs and MVP, respectively, asking if those players are bound by SC2Con decisions. I've also talked to FXO. I am waiting for responses.

I'm sure the Koreans will post their side of the story sometime tonight or tomorrow, and we'd be glad to respond to that as well. We were a bit forced to act today unfortunately due to someone leaking this information publicly...

On August 12 2011 10:57 eggs wrote:


You expect them to buy tickets for the Finals today, when they haven't even played a single game in pool play yet? I don't think you're very familiar with making travel arrangements in the professional world.

On August 12 2011 10:55 eggs wrote:


What? They were given a deadline and they gave their decision before that deadline. it doesn't say "The Korean Committee waited until AFTER the final hour." How is it unprofessional to meet deadlines after using all available resources of time allowed?