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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
August 12 2011 02:08 GMT
#1141
The costs vary significantly depending on the time of year. It's ~1100-1600 depending.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 12 2011 02:08 GMT
#1142
On August 12 2011 11:00 virgintlmoderators wrote:
Inside Scoop: Korean teams don't like player replays getting out so they don't want their players playing in NASL. Same reason MLG didn't want to release replays after lots of koreans started playing in it cause they threatened to withdraw. Then they promised replays cause people threw a hissy fit here but still havent released any. Yea...they mad..


Let's see some sources to your claim. Otherwise, what you're spouting is just pure BS. While we're at it, let's also say the moon landing is a government conspiracy and 9-11 is an inside job. Why the hell not?
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
Veritask
Profile Joined November 2010
260 Posts
August 12 2011 02:08 GMT
#1143
On August 12 2011 11:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 11:05 Veritask wrote:
On August 12 2011 10:34 NASL.tv wrote:
On August 12 2011 10:31 epik640x wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:34 NASL.tv wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:31 masterbreti wrote:
tbh good for the Koreans for sticking to their guns.

Has anyone here auctally tried to caculate the cost of a 1 week trip to cali from seoul and back. its damn expensive. Being almost 3k with hotel and airfare and such. For the chance at $500, which would still lose them $500 if NASL paid 2k.

I can understand why the teams would do this tbh. They are not in a healthy state in Korea and of course they would want people to pay, since they can't temselves.


I can answer this question. We paid for Korean players to come to NASL Season 1. We bought tickets for MC, PuMa, Zenio, and Squirtle. We paid $1,192 for each ticket. The hotel cost was $353 for the entire event. Travel cost was about $80 per person (shuttle service to and from). This averages out about $1650, factoring in meals ($50 per day even) ... giving each player $2,000 should cover that.


$1,192 for a ticket is just one way though, right? Round trip is usually almost $3,000.

So $2,000 wouldn't nearly be enough.


Nope -- $1,192 round trip.

Alright, if it doesn't cost over $2000 why wouldn't NASL agree to pay 100%?


they agreed to pay $2000 ($1000 stipend; $1000 guaranteed prize money). what are you smoking?

If you read the OP, it says the Korean demands were for NASL to pay 100% of travel stipends, which NASL didn't agree to.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#1144
to be honest this will probably make me not bother watching nasl. i honestly don' t care to go from beautiful play in the GSL to mistake-fests of foreign players. i wish sc2con wasn't being so stupid.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#1145
I feel like there's something fishy going on here. Simple traveling costs are almost definitely not the actual cause of this - there's gotta be something else going on that we're not hearing about.

That said, I'm gonna have to say that I won't be watching much NASL any more. Without those players the level of competition significantly drops. Sad to see it happen.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
August 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#1146
noooooo no more NaDa weekly matches (
and my axe
Xirdain
Profile Joined October 2010
United States28 Posts
August 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#1147
This is sad, and the quality of the competition in the NASL won't be as good. I will still watch it, however, and it should still produce very good matchups and games (just not necessarily as many as it could have w/ the koreans).
Seems unlikely.
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
August 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#1148
I am just finding some flights for 930 - 970 US-Dollars (12. 9. to LA, 16. 9. back)
Don´t know were there is any problem with 2.000 US-Dollars?

Just enough to get an good five-star-hotel and an brilliant dinner every day...
http://www.fragster.de - editor in chief
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#1149
On August 12 2011 11:08 Veritask wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 11:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
On August 12 2011 11:05 Veritask wrote:
On August 12 2011 10:34 NASL.tv wrote:
On August 12 2011 10:31 epik640x wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:34 NASL.tv wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:31 masterbreti wrote:
tbh good for the Koreans for sticking to their guns.

Has anyone here auctally tried to caculate the cost of a 1 week trip to cali from seoul and back. its damn expensive. Being almost 3k with hotel and airfare and such. For the chance at $500, which would still lose them $500 if NASL paid 2k.

I can understand why the teams would do this tbh. They are not in a healthy state in Korea and of course they would want people to pay, since they can't temselves.


I can answer this question. We paid for Korean players to come to NASL Season 1. We bought tickets for MC, PuMa, Zenio, and Squirtle. We paid $1,192 for each ticket. The hotel cost was $353 for the entire event. Travel cost was about $80 per person (shuttle service to and from). This averages out about $1650, factoring in meals ($50 per day even) ... giving each player $2,000 should cover that.


$1,192 for a ticket is just one way though, right? Round trip is usually almost $3,000.

So $2,000 wouldn't nearly be enough.


Nope -- $1,192 round trip.

Alright, if it doesn't cost over $2000 why wouldn't NASL agree to pay 100%?


they agreed to pay $2000 ($1000 stipend; $1000 guaranteed prize money). what are you smoking?

If you read the OP, it says the Korean demands were for NASL to pay 100% of travel stipends, which NASL didn't agree to.


they wanted 100% of the travel plus prize money. NASL offered $1000 stipend plus guaranteed $1000 prize money. thats not the same, now is it?
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
August 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#1150
guys, don't buy from koreanair.com. use a discount website (aka expedia), you guys need to travel more. heck, just using a travel agent could probably get you a cheaper price.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1405 Posts
August 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#1151
On August 12 2011 11:00 virgintlmoderators wrote:
Inside Scoop: Korean teams don't like player replays getting out so they don't want their players playing in NASL. Same reason MLG didn't want to release replays after lots of koreans started playing in it cause they threatened to withdraw. Then they promised replays cause people threw a hissy fit here but still havent released any. Yea...they mad..


Good use of your first post rumor mongering.
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 02:12:03
August 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#1152
On August 12 2011 11:10 JimSocks wrote:
guys, don't buy from koreanair.com. use a discount website (aka expedia), you guys need to travel more. heck, just using a travel agent could probably get you a cheaper price.


Just one expert of traveling (part of my work). Even expedia is not the cheapest way at all^^ But even this one is much cheaper than the airlines themselves
http://www.fragster.de - editor in chief
Deception-35
Profile Joined February 2011
United States113 Posts
August 12 2011 02:12 GMT
#1153
On August 12 2011 10:44 DueSs wrote:
Well, I'm MORE interested in Season 2. Buying a pass.


i will definitely buy the pass. im actually more exited with them out of it.
kraut
Profile Joined April 2010
374 Posts
August 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#1154
i kinda like this news :/
Freefall
Profile Joined May 2011
Bahamas46 Posts
August 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#1155
Sad=( I think it's quite unprofessional of them to wait until the last minute to bring this up and am surprised they didn't accept NASLs offer...

Ahwell, will still be an amazing tournament=)
m0s1n0
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany575 Posts
August 12 2011 02:14 GMT
#1156
Just found one flight for around 600 euros (750 dollars) with one stop to LA (12,9 - 16. 9)

Don´t know what they are really doing^^
http://www.fragster.de - editor in chief
bnanaPEEL
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada138 Posts
August 12 2011 02:14 GMT
#1157
So the spokesperson from GSL, not the team managers, has withdrawn all SC2con teams from the NASL...

big surprise

I think NASL will be more interesting now that they're gone though, not sure everyone shares my opinion though.
unintentionally intoxicated
generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
August 12 2011 02:14 GMT
#1158
Even though I can understand the reasoning behind the actions of the Koreans, I am very disappointed by how they chose to handle this situation. I mean, it almost felt like they were trying to hold the NASL hostage. Why wouldn't they raise this issue sooner? It's like they are banking on the fact that NASL will feel compelled to bend over to their demands (and NASL was more than willing to try to resolve this situation) because they will be afraid they will lose viewers.

I'm interested in to hear their side of the story, but as of right now, it is a pretty low move by the Koreans. Yes, their reasons might be valid, but it's like they were trying to bully NASL into their demands, rather than working with them. Even if things couldn't have worked out, at least inform them earlier so they won't be screwed over. Might have been unintentional, but it does feel like a pretty disturbing calculated move.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
August 12 2011 02:14 GMT
#1159
NASL and GOM should do an exchange program like MLG.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
August 12 2011 02:15 GMT
#1160
Sounds like they were being arrogant dicks who thought that their participation is so important that they can demand what they liked...don't mean to be too harsh but given the terms offered it is plain unreasonable.
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