EPTNo offence to the NASL but this is a huge mistake. not coming to an agreement with korean teams will take away a huge portion of fans including myself. now the league will be a joke.
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Herry
England681 Posts
No offence to the NASL but this is a huge mistake. not coming to an agreement with korean teams will take away a huge portion of fans including myself. now the league will be a joke. | ||
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Fuoeh
Netherlands486 Posts
On August 12 2011 10:02 momonami5 wrote: wow is this greed or does the 2,000 not cover the travel I don't get it. You probably just don't get it. That's my guess. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 12 2011 10:02 Noocta wrote: Naniwa and Thorzain, who are 2 of our best foreigner, didn't even make it in the first round of code A. The skill difference is getting bigger and bigger, you can't ignore it. :/ You're taking a bunch of bo3 as the gospel and some indictment on their skill? You conveniently ignore how they do in team leagues. Oh god Naniwa and thorzain lost 2 games. | ||
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gurrpp
United States437 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:57 Rasky wrote: NASL steal Korean players? Check No more Koreans allowed? Check Profit??? Wait, could you tell me which Koreans they stole? | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On August 12 2011 10:02 Noocta wrote: Naniwa and Thorzain, who are 2 of our best foreigner, didn't even make it in the first round of code A. The skill difference is getting bigger and bigger, you can't ignore it. :/ Yeah and after + Show Spoiler + killed MVP alone | ||
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storm44
1293 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:59 UnceL wrote: Good points. True, lets look at the bigger picture rather than focusing only on traveling expenses. There is way more to be told. I wish more people could see outside the box and the issue is most likely not the travel costs alone. | ||
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bertu
Brazil871 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:55 R4iD wrote: to be frank, screw em. NASL pretty much bent over backwards and was very accommodating in the talks. and for the Koreans to do this so last minute im quite mad at them. maybe if they had spoken out early (b4 signing contracts herp derp) about possible travel or money issues it could of worked but to at the last minute change their mind and say nah we dont have the money unless you want to cover everything i find that quite disgraceful. time for HERO TO CRUSH The statement doesn`t say contracts have been signed for season 2. We don`t know if the contract for season 1 should apply for all seasons, plus there are new players this time. You can still consider it bad business practice, but it`s not like they are disrespecting a contract. They negotiated in the limit of a time frame that was convenient for them but not for NASL. Also, it really does make sense to negotiate a deal after having players in the qualifiers than before the qualifiers, as it put them in a strong position. Again, maybe BM, but also smart and not disrepectful of a previous agreement. | ||
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Saeglopur
Canada177 Posts
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:09 Midgetman101 wrote: Ret literally lost in like 10 minutes with no shot at redemption and he was number 1 seed... Yeah what happened to Ret really makes me wonder what the 9 weeks was for. If I was a top level Korean player and I had the choice, I'd be someone like Puma and just try to hero the qualifiers rather than wake up at 4am for 9 weeks and play with shitty latency. | ||
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Klaus1986
United States113 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:46 TheStonerer wrote: To those who aren't buying the season pass anymore, you are all killing esports! Seriously though, this news makes me feel like korean players feel they deserve some special treatment. TSL3 was a huge success without any korean player in the finals. If anything, foreign pros have made much more entertaining matches than Koreans in GSL. Even, Koreans playing in foreign tournaments make more exciting games than GSL. Maybe the finals, but the most exciting highest level games ive seen are still always going to be in the GSL. | ||
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babo213
United States266 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
Until then I won't make any comment. | ||
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Thorantham
United States221 Posts
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PrimeTimey
Canada369 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:57 Smancer wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere but a round trip ticket alone, from Korea to LA, his around $1,000 dollars, coach, and that is really cheap, with plenty of notice. But tickets I am looking at on Kayak.com can go up to $2.5k depending on the date. So lets say they have to book, a month in advance, the tickets with all the fees and taxes at best would be $1500. I think that is being very conservative. I would imagine that players once they book would have to plan to stay for the entire finals. That's probably a week. 7 days in a very cheap hotel room in California would run $100 a night per person. I still think I am being very generous. Then there a meals, drinks, traveling around and other day to day expenses that come with traveling. I think a 2k Stipend would Barely cover it for these players. If I was traveling for work I would simply want to know that I would be completely covered and not have to worry about spending my own money. I think the Koreans were in the right to ask for more, so that they know nothing would come out of pocket, otherwise what is the point? NASL isn't their "work" .. the team that supports them and sponsors them is their "work". NASL SHOULDNT have to pay stipends but they do to be generous. OGS, Slayers, IM, MVP, etc. etc. etc. are the ones who are supposed to cover the travel arrangements for their players. | ||
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Fleebenworth
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