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MLG Anaheim Recap Video

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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:58:02
August 09 2011 18:32 GMT
#1


Pretty awesome video put together by IMG recapping MLG Anaheim

With 1,000 players, 20,000 spectators, and $120k at stake, MLG Anaheim was the biggest Event yet. Get an in-depth look at everything that went down.

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/73691-what-happened-in-anaheim
Twitter: MrAdamAp
MLGrben
Profile Joined August 2010
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 19:06:36
August 09 2011 19:05 GMT
#2
Any mod care to help with embed code, can't seem to get it to work.
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norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
August 09 2011 19:06 GMT
#3
I don't think it is easier.
Are you human?
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
August 09 2011 19:11 GMT
#4
I love videos! haha

I get excited waiting for them to be made... Top 10, top 3, best moments, recaps...

Can't wait for Raleigh!
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 09 2011 19:11 GMT
#5
This has multiple sc2 clips from columbus. Sweet video though.
LeFroMaGe
Profile Joined October 2010
United States628 Posts
August 09 2011 19:26 GMT
#6
This is pretty amazing video, in depth review of everything, still really enjoyable.
Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
August 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#7
Oh jeez. 50 minutes of MLG anaheim :OO nice!
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
August 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#8
On August 10 2011 04:11 Doodsmack wrote:
This has multiple sc2 clips from columbus. Sweet video though.



The Columbus portion was part of the video introduction.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
silentblob
Profile Joined June 2011
Great Britain40 Posts
August 09 2011 20:07 GMT
#9
Korean dominance - it was always gonna happen...
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2011 20:22 GMT
#10
I don't understand shooters. I try to watch it and enjoy it but I guess if you don't play the game it is impossible to enjoy it.
I should really buy one of those games just to understand it. Shooting people and trying to get a flag to your base. Meh. It looks so random. You can die as much as you want, mostly it is just a clusterfuck of deaths and then somebody, accidently(?), picks up the flag and jump-trows it home.

I would love to understand it and see why people are cheering. Any chance I can learn that without actually playing the game?

I had a good night of sleep.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:24:52
August 09 2011 20:24 GMT
#11
Pretty awesome recap, what I learned from this video, SC2 is awesome, COD is camping feast, Halo surprising fun to watch.
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 20:42:23
August 09 2011 20:41 GMT
#12
On August 10 2011 05:22 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand shooters. I try to watch it and enjoy it but I guess if you don't play the game it is impossible to enjoy it.
I should really buy one of those games just to understand it. Shooting people and trying to get a flag to your base. Meh. It looks so random. You can die as much as you want, mostly it is just a clusterfuck of deaths and then somebody, accidently(?), picks up the flag and jump-trows it home.

I would love to understand it and see why people are cheering. Any chance I can learn that without actually playing the game?


It's quite difficult without playing, unfortunately. A big portion of the impressiveness of what happens is in the players' skill with the guns, and you need to have played the games to understand how impressive those quick snipes are and such. Plus, with the only spectator option being streaming the players' first person views, it's hard to get a feel for what kind of teamwork is happening. They need to come out with a team shooter that has spectator modes where you can get a top-down view of where everybody is all lit up and easily visible, when and where weapons are going to come up, better stats viewing for spectators, that sort of thing.

For the cheering, a lot of that comes from big multikills or snipes. The kind of plays that an average joe like me looks at and just thinks about how damn lucky I would have to be to land that shot, and these guys do it every game almost.


On August 10 2011 05:24 godemperor wrote:
Pretty awesome recap, what I learned from this video, SC2 is awesome, COD is camping feast, Halo surprising fun to watch.

Halo's main difference between CoD is that gunfights actually go back and forth while CoD is often a hide and seek I saw you first so I killed you game. Makes it more interesting imo.
Have a nice day.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 09 2011 20:50 GMT
#13
Thanks for this, amazing recap. Sad they didn't show much in game bm or the crowd holding signs everywhere
JoshRT
Profile Joined August 2011
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 21:04:38
August 09 2011 21:02 GMT
#14
Here's me hoping MLG picks up CS 1.6 :/
Even in that latest SirScoots interview, he always wanted CS 1.6 to reach the same level of success SC2 has. HALO and COD don't quite reach up to the competitiveness of CS 1.6. At least 1.6 has ESEA lol
GowraK
Profile Joined March 2011
18 Posts
August 09 2011 21:24 GMT
#15
Pretty awesome. Wish I could have watched it.
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
August 09 2011 21:25 GMT
#16
pumped for Raleigh
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 10 2011 00:56 GMT
#17
wow, that was tight. I am gonna go to Raleigh no matter what!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
August 10 2011 01:35 GMT
#18
Great video, except to be honest I think you mixed out a bit too much of the noise we made for you when boxer defeated rain.
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 10 2011 01:36 GMT
#19
Here's another one from Laxx:

Thank God and gunrun.
`MemoRY
Profile Joined January 2011
United States80 Posts
August 10 2011 01:59 GMT
#20
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.
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Freeheals
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States488 Posts
August 10 2011 01:59 GMT
#21
Nice video, I missed all of this MLG and this was a good recap, I skipped over the halo and CoD parts admittedly
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mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
August 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#22
It's kind of sad that Cod/Halo grandprizes are 100 000$ US, while it is only 5000$ US for Sc2
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
MLG_Lee
Profile Joined July 2010
279 Posts
August 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#23
On August 10 2011 11:16 mark05 wrote:
It's kind of sad that Cod/Halo grandprizes are 100 000$ US, while it is only 5000$ US for Sc2


Eh?

Prizes for the National Championship StarCraft 2 Event are as follows:

1st Place $50,000
2nd Place $25,000
3rd Place $15,000
4th Place $10,500
5th Place $7,500
6th Place $5,250
7th Place $3,750
8th Place $3000

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/23#event_66_prizes

Regular season events are $5,000 for first place, which is exactly the same, on a PER PLAYER basis as the team games.

Starcraft 2 has the largest per player prize pool on the MLG Pro Circuit.
Twitter: @MLGLee ( https://twitter.com/#!/MLGLee )
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 02:35:52
August 10 2011 02:35 GMT
#24
Thanks a lot for that video. I missed MLG Anaheim and caught most of the important stuff but this really helped fill me in. Glad MLG does stuff like this!

But best of 5 or greater finals next time, please!
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
August 10 2011 02:47 GMT
#25
I really enjoyed that vid, and ya you really have to play the games to realize how clutch some of those kills are. Getting an overkill to win the game is like losing no marines to 100 banelings on creep. Black ops isnt nearly as entertaining since it is easier to kill people, 6 on 6 would be way better. Also I want them to use c4 :/
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R4iD
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
August 10 2011 02:57 GMT
#26
On August 10 2011 05:41 Ladnil wrote:
They need to come out with a team shooter that has spectator modes where you can get a top-down view of where everybody is all lit up and easily visible, when and where weapons are going to come up, better stats viewing for spectators


its called counter strike 1.6 and it came out almost as long ago as SC BW

and i pretty much agree with everyone else CoD is a boring camp fest, halo is decent to watch but SC2 still best imo (maybe mlg should put street fighter 4 or MvC3 or some other fighter game into their lineup it could be interesting to watch)
your either pro or your noob, and thats life
rcg
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia47 Posts
August 10 2011 03:20 GMT
#27
Picking up 1.6 would be such a baller idea. But one can only dream haha, it just doesnt appeal to the sponsors. Id do anything to hear redeye cast again
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 10 2011 03:25 GMT
#28
only way MLG will pick up CS 1.6 is if the community convinces Sundance and the sponsors, which they won't.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 10 2011 03:39 GMT
#29
Sick montage
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
August 10 2011 03:48 GMT
#30
On August 10 2011 10:36 Primadog wrote:
Here's another one from Laxx:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26gZkeWi-kY


that was sooo epic, nerd chills beyond belief
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
August 10 2011 03:53 GMT
#31
This video is better than actually going to MLG. Hahaha
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
August 10 2011 03:55 GMT
#32
The vod for MMA vs Boxer Game 3 is still broken. I'd post a comment there but every comment there says the same thing.

This video was very nice though. I didn't know MMA wept after beating Boxer o.O I keep <3'ing both of those guys more.

The other games are hard for me to follow (mostly as I haven't played), but the video does them justice. It's ironic that another person, in addition to team Instinct, concluded a perfect run through a huge tournament that same weekend--Nestea.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 05:04:15
August 10 2011 05:03 GMT
#33
On August 10 2011 10:36 Primadog wrote:
Here's another one from Laxx:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26gZkeWi-kY

With the way this video ends, I think this would be absolutely perfect for a pre MLG Raleign hype video for MVP. MVP needs help getting hype IMO because he doesn't generate it by himself with any trash talk or drama so casual viewers have a harder time getting hyped for MVP. Its sad because hes without a doubt the best and most accomplished terran in sc2 yet (it seemed like) everyone was going crazy for DRG and MMA instead
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 10 2011 06:59 GMT
#34
Awesome video, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and not just the SC2 portions either. Nice to see milkis getting some face time in there too
Jieun <3
DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
August 10 2011 07:00 GMT
#35
Great video thank you
montysaurus
Profile Joined August 2011
United States27 Posts
August 10 2011 07:06 GMT
#36
I love these videos. they may sound discouraging for foreigners, but I think that players can either step up or step out. It's decision time and I know many of the foreigners are die hard competitors.
Alltomata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States66 Posts
August 10 2011 07:24 GMT
#37
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.
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Timestreamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel157 Posts
August 10 2011 07:32 GMT
#38
Oh man, this reminded me of the nuke Jinro called down...one of the happiest moments ever
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#39
Watched all of it, really good sum-up imo
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
August 10 2011 08:14 GMT
#40
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.

That's Instinct, the bonwja of halo, dont think they have lost a match this year yet.

Anyways awesome highlights video.
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Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
August 10 2011 08:26 GMT
#41
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


So did I, I spend like 3-4 hours a day on SC2 usually so it surprised me.
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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
August 10 2011 10:59 GMT
#42
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Me too, being dedicated in games such as 1.6 & CS:S and so forth requires up to 7-8 hours (for CS) and even more for SC2..
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
inn5013orecl
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
August 10 2011 12:50 GMT
#43
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Haha same. Wonder when Koreans would dominate if they entered the world of competitive FPS in as big a scale as SC:BW and SC2 given their practice methods.

+ Show Spoiler +
Notice the use of when rather than how
i live with a korean who doesnt play sc...wtf
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 13:21:40
August 10 2011 12:59 GMT
#44
7 minutes in and this is amazing. Do not lose IMG as a sponsor. I'm gonna go get some lunch and watch it while i eat.

YOU BETTER KEEP MAKING THESE ^_____^.

Btw are there any for past events or is this the first?

Does black ops not use extended series O.O? It doesn't seem like they do from the video :S
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Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 13:55:55
August 10 2011 13:55 GMT
#45
On August 10 2011 21:50 inn5013orecl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Haha same. Wonder when Koreans would dominate if they entered the world of competitive FPS in as big a scale as SC:BW and SC2 given their practice methods.

+ Show Spoiler +
Notice the use of when rather than how


just curious, if ure good at a FPS game, will that help in SC2 and vice versa? or do u need different skillsets.

I know one of the gross differences is team games require teamwork and in SC2 the builds and meta game affects the outcome alot. just a small question for people who have tried dominating at both a FPS and a RTS.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 10 2011 14:12 GMT
#46
On August 10 2011 22:55 Ryukku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 21:50 inn5013orecl wrote:
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Haha same. Wonder when Koreans would dominate if they entered the world of competitive FPS in as big a scale as SC:BW and SC2 given their practice methods.

+ Show Spoiler +
Notice the use of when rather than how


just curious, if ure good at a FPS game, will that help in SC2 and vice versa? or do u need different skillsets.

I know one of the gross differences is team games require teamwork and in SC2 the builds and meta game affects the outcome alot. just a small question for people who have tried dominating at both a FPS and a RTS.



The most important thing probably is the mindset, if you played any game 8hours a day competitively it defintately makes it easier picking up another one and stuff like mouse accuracy and stuff will definately help both ways around... But apart from that I don't think you can make a real call on stuff like this...

I think MoMaN is the only FPS player I know of who managed to be somewhat successful in SC2
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 10 2011 14:25 GMT
#47
Very nice
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
August 10 2011 14:41 GMT
#48
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.



3-4 hours AS A TEAM. The Halo players practice all day in custom games, but getting 4 players together for team practice is difficult considering they're usually college kids living in disparate parts of the country.

In any case, anyone that can compete at that level deserves respect, regardless of the title.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 10 2011 14:45 GMT
#49
Awesome vid! Lols at halo and cod tho, all 15 year old american xbox live kids
no dude, the question
Clues
Profile Joined April 2010
United States186 Posts
August 10 2011 14:51 GMT
#50
On August 10 2011 23:41 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.



3-4 hours AS A TEAM. The Halo players practice all day in custom games, but getting 4 players together for team practice is difficult considering they're usually college kids living in disparate parts of the country.

In any case, anyone that can compete at that level deserves respect, regardless of the title.


It is interesting the large variance in work required to become the best. You can't argue with Instinct's results. The question is will their dominance spark other teams to up the ante and start practicing more?

Really it just speaks to the poorness of competition than it does Instinct's lack of dedication. If everyone practiced 3-4 hours a day then those at the top would have to practice more, feeding a cycle and maybe we'd see the numbers we see in SC2 and such. But really I don't think the money is there. Outside of MLG I don't think Halo Reach has tons of $100 tournaments per week and the option to fly to an Assembly or a Dreamhack or an IEM or a GSL or a GSTL or....

I think SC2 and Halo: Reach are on different plateaus of work to put in and money to get out.
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 14:54:38
August 10 2011 14:54 GMT
#51
On August 10 2011 23:51 Clues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 23:41 MLG_Adam wrote:
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.



3-4 hours AS A TEAM. The Halo players practice all day in custom games, but getting 4 players together for team practice is difficult considering they're usually college kids living in disparate parts of the country.

In any case, anyone that can compete at that level deserves respect, regardless of the title.



It is interesting the large variance in work required to become the best. You can't argue with Instinct's results. The question is will their dominance spark other teams to up the ante and start practicing more?

Really it just speaks to the poorness of competition than it does Instinct's lack of dedication. If everyone practiced 3-4 hours a day then those at the top would have to practice more, feeding a cycle and maybe we'd see the numbers we see in SC2 and such. But really I don't think the money is there. Outside of MLG I don't think Halo Reach has tons of $100 tournaments per week and the option to fly to an Assembly or a Dreamhack or an IEM or a GSL or a GSTL or....

I think SC2 and Halo: Reach are on different plateaus of work to put in and money to get out.




You're misunderstanding me. They practice their craft all day. But as a team, they play 3-4 hours together going over strats, etc. It is not to say they only practice 3-4 hours, just 3-4 hours in one team session together.

Twitter: MrAdamAp
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 10 2011 15:06 GMT
#52
Great video, I really enjoyed the epic story of Instinct. I think more could have been made of the amazing crowd response to Boxer's awesomeness, but Starcraft definitely got its due.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 10 2011 15:08 GMT
#53
Awesome recap video! I love when these come out so I can find out who won Halo and COD since i spend all my time watching SCII. I'm hoping to be able to walk around at Raleigh and film each stage a little bit each day during the weekend.
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qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
August 10 2011 16:01 GMT
#54
So why are Artosis and Tasteless mentionend as casters in the credits?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 16:35:57
August 10 2011 16:35 GMT
#55
Hadn't watched that much Halo before Anaheim. It was way more interesting than I'd expected. Great recap and great event!
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
August 10 2011 17:05 GMT
#56
loved it, having been there, this brought back memories =]
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Cashmere
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 17:33:35
August 10 2011 17:22 GMT
#57
Awesome, thank you for this.

Will this be available on the iinet freezone for Australian viewers?
Jeramus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States37 Posts
August 10 2011 17:23 GMT
#58
Do they only play on one map for Halo? They switched it up for COD, but Halo all looked the same. Maybe I just can't tell. Interesting to see the team dynamics.
Alexl
Profile Joined January 2011
288 Posts
August 10 2011 17:32 GMT
#59
On August 10 2011 21:50 inn5013orecl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Haha same. Wonder when Koreans would dominate if they entered the world of competitive FPS in as big a scale as SC:BW and SC2 given their practice methods.

+ Show Spoiler +
Notice the use of when rather than how

Actually, I don't recall any dominating/top3 team or player on either quake or cs 1.6. Only ex estro/wemadefox and before them lunatic-hai could compete but they never won anything international I believe (maybe estars once?). I don't think fps games reward 12 hours of training a day as much, 6-8 hours and better adaptation seems to be better.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 19:26:03
August 10 2011 19:20 GMT
#60
It's shame this topic has turned into mainly a discussion over the "3-4 hours" thing instead of the absolutely amazing montage video.

Thanks so much MLG. I bought Gold after seeing Anaheim and haven't regretted one second of it. You guys rock.

Edit: rofl "I don't think it is possible to be effective with this weapon on this map"
*headshot*
*double kill*
*triple kill*
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 19:50:43
August 10 2011 19:49 GMT
#61
Awesome video.

Saddens me that people constantly rip on other games in these forums because they don't meet the "standards" of BW or SC2(I know it is a BW and SC2 website). It helps make a lot of StarCraft fans seem like assholes to outsiders and puts us all under the same stereotype.

FPS games are different practice, the teamwork comes first and the skill compliments it. SC2 is more about the build orders, reading the opponent and getting your timings correct.

Hopefully they have one of these after Raleigh!
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JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
August 10 2011 20:48 GMT
#62
Awesome video <3
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 10 2011 22:30 GMT
#63
This topic has been slightly derailled but I wanted to thanks the creator of this video That's exactly what I needed; MLG produces so many games that's it's hard to keep all of them in mind.
Also I enjoyed the part about Halo, I've been a fan of the franchise since the beginning and I'm a casual console gamer, so that's fine by me.
ps: We need bigger prize pools
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Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
August 10 2011 23:05 GMT
#64
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.

I was like whtf at that moment :D
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
August 10 2011 23:25 GMT
#65
On August 11 2011 08:05 Knightess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.

I was like whtf at that moment :D

At that moment, I knew a ton of folks here would assume that that was /total/ practice and not just the time they spent playing together as a team. See below.

On August 10 2011 23:41 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.



3-4 hours AS A TEAM. The Halo players practice all day in custom games, but getting 4 players together for team practice is difficult considering they're usually college kids living in disparate parts of the country.

L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
August 10 2011 23:37 GMT
#66
On August 11 2011 04:49 Kralic wrote:
Awesome video.

Saddens me that people constantly rip on other games in these forums because they don't meet the "standards" of BW or SC2(I know it is a BW and SC2 website). It helps make a lot of StarCraft fans seem like assholes to outsiders and puts us all under the same stereotype.

FPS games are different practice, the teamwork comes first and the skill compliments it. SC2 is more about the build orders, reading the opponent and getting your timings correct.

Hopefully they have one of these after Raleigh!


I think there are fps games tht most starcraft players respect, like cs and quake. halo/cod not so much. and ive competed in cod4 so im not trying to be a dick here its just the truth. competitive fps games have been going downhill for a long time now.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 11 2011 00:53 GMT
#67
Aren't they splicing in the main SC2 crowd cheering as they show FPS clips? The two columns of seats, fully filled?

Curious if anybody else saw this or was I mistaken.
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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 11 2011 01:03 GMT
#68
Great video! Nice recap!
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
August 11 2011 01:09 GMT
#69
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


MLG is like the only big tournament for Halo wheareas SC2 seems to have something big every week. My guess is Halo players need to have jobs aswell to support themselves so 3-4 hours per day may be all they can afford?
Fangzhou
Profile Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
August 11 2011 01:10 GMT
#70
Sick video, gave amazing insight into the other games there, will start following Instinct in future MLGs now!
ScienceGun
Profile Joined August 2011
United States10 Posts
August 11 2011 03:05 GMT
#71
Great video. MLG should look into setting up mics on the crowd to give a better sense of how loud it was. The crowd at Anaheim threw down the gauntlet. You're up, Raleigh!
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 11 2011 03:08 GMT
#72
I'm kinda sad that there will only be 4 events next year sigh..
Mastertouch
Profile Joined October 2010
United States136 Posts
August 11 2011 03:50 GMT
#73
On August 11 2011 10:09 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


MLG is like the only big tournament for Halo wheareas SC2 seems to have something big every week. My guess is Halo players need to have jobs aswell to support themselves so 3-4 hours per day may be all they can afford?

halo players play a lot. but they fuck around a lot too. like adam said, the instinct team had 3-4 hours of practice everyday. thats pretty good for a team imo.

hey hey hey
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
August 11 2011 04:46 GMT
#74
50 minutes is a bit long for a recap video. Of course that's just my opinion. I spent hours watching the event. I don't really feel like watching another hour of it. It's the thought that counts, and I appreciate the time it took y'all to put it together, and I'm sure others will enjoy it, but I would prefer something around the 10-15 minute mark.
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Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
August 11 2011 05:20 GMT
#75
The best part: Idra vs Cruncher, JP saying: "Shake hands if you're going to" and Idra just walks away, missed that live.
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HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
August 11 2011 07:31 GMT
#76
I very much enjoyed this recap, thanks.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
August 11 2011 07:38 GMT
#77
On August 11 2011 13:46 Devolved wrote:
50 minutes is a bit long for a recap video. Of course that's just my opinion. I spent hours watching the event. I don't really feel like watching another hour of it. It's the thought that counts, and I appreciate the time it took y'all to put it together, and I'm sure others will enjoy it, but I would prefer something around the 10-15 minute mark.

50 minutes is perfect. Maybe you are thinking of a highlights video.
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leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
August 11 2011 08:54 GMT
#78
awesome content. mooooaaar pleeeaaase :3 ?

also this reminds me to the documentaries which are made. can´t wait.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 11 2011 08:57 GMT
#79
StarNation, Good Game, and My Life for Aiur were all present at MLG Anaheim and coming together nicely.


Looking forward to when they're out of the oven.
Thank God and gunrun.
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
August 11 2011 10:17 GMT
#80
On August 11 2011 01:01 qqK wrote:
So why are Artosis and Tasteless mentionend as casters in the credits?
Haha, I am not the only one who noticed :D
More GGs, more skill
Smapz
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway405 Posts
August 11 2011 13:04 GMT
#81
Awesome video! I gotta say though, it looks like the fps games are played on a low level. However, it's probably harder then it looks with console controllers I guess.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
August 11 2011 14:26 GMT
#82
On August 11 2011 22:04 Smapz wrote:
Awesome video! I gotta say though, it looks like the fps games are played on a low level. However, it's probably harder then it looks with console controllers I guess.

There's much much more to Halo than how hard/easy it is to out-shoot opponents using a controller. Individual skill, to the extent that it can be expressed via the limitations of a console, takes a backseat to a team's collective skill in things like influencing/controlling teammate/opponent spawns, baiting/feints, setups/map control, opening strats, coordinated pushes/setup breaking, power weapon/item control, etc. None of those elements really came through in the video. When you're at an event and can see all 8 screens at once, though, it can be pretty amazing.
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
August 11 2011 14:33 GMT
#83
I dunno, Halo looks like Quake CTF, but much slower and less weapons. And CoD is only played due to CS graphics not being fancy enough.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
August 11 2011 16:53 GMT
#84
why are they playing fps on consoles ?
I have to return some videotapes.
thethingexe
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia28 Posts
August 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#85
I don't think so much of it being people here disliking halo/cod, and not disliking cs/quake, it's more pc vs console, a generation gap.

Though all games are really going down in terms of difficulty, sc2 is easier than scbw, halo is easier than quake and cod is easier than cs, or maybe streamlined is a more accepted word.

+ Show Spoiler +
At least they are going for headshots in halo... cod on the other hand...
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
August 11 2011 18:19 GMT
#86
There is a culture gap between BW/SC2 fans and FPS fans. For myself, I don't even own a console, and the only reason I upgraded my computer was specifically to play SC2. I'm sure it's takes similar effort and skill to play at the top levels of Call of Duty and CS.

It's just...click for elitist BW opinion.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's just...no offence, but I'm going to offend you...if you were going to dedicate your life to mastering one game, would you choose chess or Hungry Hungry Hippos?

"OMG! Double-kill! He ate two white balls with an amazingly timed tap on his hippo trigger."
"What a perfect nudge to send the last white ball into the mouth of his teammate's hippo! Great teamwork!"

That's what it looks like to me. I'm sure it's hard to master, but practicing to railgun the four-pixel square that is the top of the head of your opponent...vs. the utter psychological dominance that is Flash...


You must construct additional pylons.
KarneEspada
Profile Joined May 2011
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 20:13:37
August 11 2011 20:12 GMT
#87
I'M ON TV. "Several of the top North American players" 3:26 blue shirt / white jesus pants 3rd person down at a computer..apparently I'm good...not
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#88
Ok, which other game can you spend over an hour at over 250 actions per minute. -.- Starcraft may not need a lot of teamwork, but skillwise, I think it definetly takes the cake.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
pyaar
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 02:57:58
August 12 2011 02:57 GMT
#89
they kept spelling "DonRaeGu's"s name wrong

good video though
ExSaint
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada70 Posts
August 12 2011 03:51 GMT
#90
So awesome glad to see our Foreigners are doing so well over there even if Code A went poorly for them :D
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
August 14 2011 11:53 GMT
#91
Just wanna tell you this is incredably awesome, not just for the SC2, I love watching Halo highlights (tho I can't stand COD, it's just not a spectator sport).

Man tho, it seems like Halo is starting to step up it's fandom after Columbus.

Actually, best line in that whole thing is from halo to be honest.

"We're 36 and one in tournament play... come at us."

Pretty baller just saying.
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 13:55:50
August 16 2011 13:54 GMT
#92
Halo and CoD are no QL, that's for sure.


Good stuff with the SC2 segments, though. Very professionally done, definitely TV production quality.


On August 10 2011 10:36 Primadog wrote:
"Barcraft" is the longest word that can be typed entirely with your left hand.

What about
"Barcrafts"?
"Barcrafter"?
"Barcrafters"?
"Barcraftered"?

?!?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 14:05:16
August 16 2011 14:02 GMT
#93
Reach only looks boring because it's like 99% teamwork these days, and all the work that goes into set ups/opening strats/coordinating pushes etc. pp. was not visible at all in this video so it looked a lot more like what halo originally was, a console version of quake arena. Previous Halo games had a way bigger skill gap in terms of individual skill, so highlights were a lot more fun to watch, and the gameplay used to be a lot quicker.

Anyways the video was pretty baller, I love that they keep doing these for the events, it's pretty tough to keep track over 4 streams at once, given that starcraft has soooooo many commentated games these days it's pretty much impossible to catch all the starcraft action and follow the other 2 games, so these videos are a nice and easy way to see what was going on over at halo/cod (even though cod has to be one of the worst games to watch).
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
August 16 2011 14:08 GMT
#94
Awesome recap video! Thanks.
FlyingPetals
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5 Posts
August 16 2011 17:09 GMT
#95
Those Halo games seem pretty intense.
SNSD & SC
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
August 16 2011 17:14 GMT
#96
rofl DonRaeGu or DongRaeGu?
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
August 19 2011 00:49 GMT
#97
watched all 51 minutes

and i hate cod

mlg must be doing something right!
Xyl
Profile Joined July 2011
United States25 Posts
August 20 2011 18:40 GMT
#98
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.
This has probably been addressed. However...

Unlike SC2 professionals, most Halo pros don't play the game full time. They have classes, a job, or both. If you look at the age ranges, most Halo players are still in high school, while SC2 players are in college, or early 20s. Another important thing to realize is that in professional Halo games (hyper-competitive custom/matchmaking), there is a point of diminishing returns. You cannot put in 8-12 hours a day without noticing a dive in your reflexes and decision making at the 6-hour mark. And unlike SC, there are a lot more opportunities for big plays in every game, which can make a frustrating situation increasingly more so as time passes. This is in stark contrast to regular multiplayer games, or playing with non-pros, where your team can roll through a day having fun and not getting chills from too much adrenaline.

On topic: I enjoy watching professional Halo play (have since 2005) and Starcraft games (started playing SC in 1999). Unfortunately, watching Black Ops games involves watching excessively ADHD players, and therefore not as enjoyable as the way I play COD 4.
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pecore
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany62 Posts
August 20 2011 19:43 GMT
#99
Nice video. Looks like a lot of work has been put into this. I think the COD part was a little bit too long, anyway good job.

It is kind of amazing to see what these Halo players can pull off in that game, but I always wonder how much better they could be if they would use "proper" equipment for a FPS. When I remember and see what the guys in Quake and CS do with their mouse and keyboard.. I cannot help but think that playing a FPS with a gamepad is wrong.
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
August 20 2011 19:50 GMT
#100
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Me2
So much for taking console shooters seriously :X
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 20:48:07
August 20 2011 20:46 GMT
#101
There are a lot of things you could do better in order to cut the recap down.

Repetition, repetition, repetition. The summaries could be cut down by a ton if you explain each point once while the action is happening over the casters voices instead of summarizing what you are about to see, show the highlight footage and summarize the same point again otherwise it becomes redundant.

Same thing can be applied to SC2 revisited at the 38 minute mark.

There could have been a lot more polish on this and I mean a lot more.

Still a good video, but I would repackage it a little differently.
delo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States333 Posts
August 20 2011 20:52 GMT
#102
On August 21 2011 04:50 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.


Me2
So much for taking console shooters seriously :X

*sigh* Apparently have to quote this again:

On August 10 2011 23:41 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.



3-4 hours AS A TEAM. The Halo players practice all day in custom games, but getting 4 players together for team practice is difficult considering they're usually college kids living in disparate parts of the country.

In any case, anyone that can compete at that level deserves respect, regardless of the title.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
August 20 2011 20:57 GMT
#103
On August 21 2011 03:40 Xyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:59 `MemoRY wrote:
I loled when the Halo: Reach guy talked about being so dedicated by playing 3-4 hours per day.
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 16:24 Alltomata wrote:
LOL "We must get on, almost every night of the week. And play for 3-4 hours."

That's nothing compared to what Starcraft players put in.
This has probably been addressed. However...

Unlike SC2 professionals, most Halo pros don't play the game full time. They have classes, a job, or both. If you look at the age ranges, most Halo players are still in high school, while SC2 players are in college, or early 20s. Another important thing to realize is that in professional Halo games (hyper-competitive custom/matchmaking), there is a point of diminishing returns. You cannot put in 8-12 hours a day without noticing a dive in your reflexes and decision making at the 6-hour mark. And unlike SC, there are a lot more opportunities for big plays in every game, which can make a frustrating situation increasingly more so as time passes. This is in stark contrast to regular multiplayer games, or playing with non-pros, where your team can roll through a day having fun and not getting chills from too much adrenaline.

On topic: I enjoy watching professional Halo play (have since 2005) and Starcraft games (started playing SC in 1999). Unfortunately, watching Black Ops games involves watching excessively ADHD players, and therefore not as enjoyable as the way I play COD 4.

So basically the best unbeaten untouchable halo players in the world don't even play the game for an amount of time which would make them be considered pro gamers. Makes me think how much the other teams practice.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 21:31:30
August 20 2011 21:10 GMT
#104
Are we really going to take it there?

Okay, how about you show them how it's done then by forming your own team where you play 12-16 hours a day and win.

I'm not here to argue about what you call them. You can call them amateurs for all I care. The same could be said about the old BW Foreigner scene. Only a select few went or tried to go pro under that definition. In fact, I probably couldn't name ten. Let me try:

- Retje tried, didn't work out
- IdrA never really amounted to anything in Korea however, he stayed and eventually tore through the international scene for quite a while... his mainstay was on the CJ Entus B-Team and I heard he was ranking pretty well internally near the end but not much more
- NonY tried, did well in first courage, but couldn't stay due to personal reasons. It worked out well for him though, won a TSL and got married to a standup girl. Not too shabby.
- Legionnaire, one of the last legitimate foreigner BW pros
- Rekrul, errr Dan really didn't do anything lmao... he's always been well connected though! Props for that. He did well in bet matches though.
- Assem, yeah he sort of earned his keep but hell, why would you play for IdrA in a tournament and think you could get away with it is beyond me (no respect for Romad? You silly boy)
- Elky, bundle of fun. World class tournament poker player now. I'll leave it at that.
- Giyom, our very own countryman and first legend in SC
- Lx and PJ the two China men who joined SK briefly, but really didn't compete in PL and didn't really do anything noteworthy in Korea. They did well internationally though.
- Then you have guys like Nazgul and Slayer who were there right at the beginning, not much more than that man.

Oh shit, I managed to name over ten. t('.'t) ^('.')^ Q('.'t) ^('.')^ o-('.')-o l('.')l

As for the rest, like Dimaga, Strelok, White-ra, etc. Doesn't change the fact they were still good, had sponsors, won tournaments and were well respected in our community. It is what it is man. I probably shouldn't have said Dimaga, lol. He did sort of abuse in TSL2. ;/

No reason to compare the two communities.

I'm fine with what you call amateur sports because our whole community was based on amateur sport.
exittlight
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia271 Posts
August 20 2011 21:35 GMT
#105
Just finished the whole 50. Very enjoyable.
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TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
August 20 2011 21:48 GMT
#106
I didn't watch the whole thing, but it looks like they forgot the part where Nexy turned into a sick tonka truck and dipped out....


In all seriousness though, MLG has become on of my favorite things. I hope they can continue to attract high level Koreans; and if so may be able to give GSL a run for it's money.

I would love to see some additional games in the future too, not that I don't love SC2 but occasionally watching CS can be fun too.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
August 21 2011 00:20 GMT
#107
On August 21 2011 05:46 StarStruck wrote:
There are a lot of things you could do better in order to cut the recap down.

Repetition, repetition, repetition. The summaries could be cut down by a ton if you explain each point once while the action is happening over the casters voices instead of summarizing what you are about to see, show the highlight footage and summarize the same point again otherwise it becomes redundant.

Same thing can be applied to SC2 revisited at the 38 minute mark.

There could have been a lot more polish on this and I mean a lot more.

Still a good video, but I would repackage it a little differently.


This is a great suggestion.

I found myself questioning the format of the recap before the 10 minute mark, as your narrator would introduce the team's involved, summarize the action, and then re-summarize the action as the gameplay footage rolled.

You could save a lot of time by simply introducing the team's back-story, and jumping straight to the gameplay footage as the summary is narrated. It would make for a more streamlined recap, and would be less awkward to watch. The entire video could have been streamlined into a 30 minute session probably, and been more exciting to watch.

Regardless, I still enjoyed the 50 minute version, and appreciate the effort put in my MLG to continue stepping up their game to put on a great show for the spectator.
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Raevdun
Profile Joined April 2011
22 Posts
August 21 2011 02:26 GMT
#108
Have the Sc2 segment at the end of the video next time
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
August 21 2011 03:46 GMT
#109
Was a sick event no doubt about. A lot of TvT's but that's just because Korean terrans are ahead of the curve. Keep doing it big MLG!
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GCMatrix
Profile Joined July 2011
United States10 Posts
August 21 2011 05:29 GMT
#110
Fantastic video.
Enable
Profile Joined August 2011
1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 07:12:09
August 21 2011 07:09 GMT
#111
Great video!

To shed some light on the console side of things, I am a professional Halo Reach player and I think SC2 is amazing to watch. The skill-set is obviously different from SC2 & Halo, but I can tell you that the professionals do put a lot of time into practice and it is extremely hard to be at the top (like anything). So I feel it is strange for me to say sc2 is played on a low-level because I would get dominated by the top players, but that also goes for Halo as well.

Anyways that was my first post here, and GL to everyone going to Raleigh!

Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 21 2011 23:22 GMT
#112
the vid is awesome - thx for sharing, dudes
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Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
August 22 2011 05:27 GMT
#113
Any reason why Team Fortress 2 isnt on the MLG circuit? Or Counter Strike 1.6/Source?
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OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
August 22 2011 17:29 GMT
#114
Wow, Halo Reach seems a lot better than I thought. Granted it's being played on a god damn PS3/Xbox controller, but the capture the flag playstyle reminds me of Quake 3 Arena CTF in it's heyday
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