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moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
August 07 2011 15:59 GMT
#61
On August 08 2011 00:57 redFF wrote:
Just ut of interest why is game pass not available in the U.S where 95% of the audience for football is...


Probably because the NFL is tied up with media organizations and is covering countries where American Football isn't shown.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
August 07 2011 16:11 GMT
#62
On August 08 2011 00:57 redFF wrote:
Just ut of interest why is game pass not available in the U.S where 95% of the audience for football is...


Because the media rights to US/Canada have already been purchased by other organizations for billions of dollars.
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
August 07 2011 16:12 GMT
#63
On August 07 2011 17:03 gogatorsfoster wrote:
Hq vod is 1280x720
Hq stream is 960x540

taken straight from their site.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/premiumzone/?tab=specs

Thanks, edited the OP accordingly.

On August 07 2011 21:35 CycoDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 18:54 jacen wrote:
Sometimes player introductions don't play on the international stream and the English casters are insufficiently shielded against the korean casters and the audience. They could improve on some of the audio issues i think (maybe a closed booth for the casters with a big window?).

NO! there is a reason there are microphones in front of the audience. not being able to hear them would make it worse, in my opinion. it's like watching mlg and hearing the crowd after a baneling mine just killed a ton of marines (or booing tasteless after a corny joke, hahaha that was great :p ).

I just want the caster microphones shielded against the crowd and the korean commentators (which are being played through speakers inside the studio). I know there are microphones in front of the crowd, but i also hear them through the casters mics which should not happen.

On August 07 2011 21:35 CycoDude wrote:
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There is no convenient season table for the GSTL and a tournament tree for the GSL or at least they hide them good.

the schedule is right there on the gom website. main banner has both the gsl and gstl; click the one you're watching then click on schedule at the top. you can view the upcoming brackets, and watch the vods if you missed a set (need hq pass).

That's not what i meant. There is not table showing the current standing in the GSTL for instance. I can't find out on their site which team has how many points and how many games they are + or -.

If there is such a site on gomtv.net, i haven't found it even though i looked for it - hence it is not linked well enough.
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
August 07 2011 16:13 GMT
#64
On August 07 2011 16:33 VenerableSpace wrote:
what the hell is someone in austria doing watching the NFL?

Austria has a strong fanbase for the NFL and EFL. Two of teams of Austria regularly compete for the Eurobowl.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurobowl
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
August 07 2011 16:33 GMT
#65
I only watch events live so... ;o
CycoDude
Profile Joined November 2010
United States326 Posts
August 07 2011 16:41 GMT
#66
On August 08 2011 01:12 jacen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 07 2011 21:35 CycoDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
There is no convenient season table for the GSTL and a tournament tree for the GSL or at least they hide them good.

the schedule is right there on the gom website. main banner has both the gsl and gstl; click the one you're watching then click on schedule at the top. you can view the upcoming brackets, and watch the vods if you missed a set (need hq pass).

That's not what i meant. There is not table showing the current standing in the GSTL for instance. I can't find out on their site which team has how many points and how many games they are + or -.

If there is such a site on gomtv.net, i haven't found it even though i looked for it - hence it is not linked well enough.

ah ok. yeah, for the team league there could be a better results page. as it stands now, you have to go through the records link at the top and click on team info, which is tedious if you just want a snap-shot of the entire league.
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
August 07 2011 16:44 GMT
#67
Very nice review I should compare this with the league pass broad band also,

One thing I kinda disagree with is the muted add breaks, I feel that if your gonna have break they should be muted then you can alt tab play some games and then when the show comes back you will hear it and not miss anything.

Compare this to NASL where they have music playing with nothing but words on the screen telling you when the game will be if you wanna look away and watch something else you gotta mute it then you could miss when it starts up again (I realize that NASL break are only a minute but I have noticed other tourneys putting music and advertisements during the breaks and I often mute it then miss the start of a game because I don't hear it start up again so I think the GOMtv has a pretty nice set up as it is
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features
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ireland160 Posts
August 07 2011 16:50 GMT
#68
Up to a few weeks ago I was saddled with a 512kb broadband speed and Ive always been impressed by the quality of GOMs low quality stream; much better than anything else I was capable of streaming.

The high resolution however, while it may take 2-3 times the bandwidth there really isnt a 2-3 times bump in clarity.

But Im still pleased with the service, the only thing I was put back by was the price of a GSTL pass. I know it lasts for 3 monuths but is it worth 3 GSL tickets :/ The teams dont even seem to take it that seriously...... Im looking at you Startale random... vampire guy.
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
August 07 2011 16:54 GMT
#69
GomTV may advertise 1280x720 for their HQ vods, and the video may actually be output in 720, but many is it too blurry for that. They must have some terrible encoding because 720 on youtube looks far, far better.
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
August 07 2011 16:56 GMT
#70
The Gom Player has DVR function, doesn't it?
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niteblaze
Profile Joined August 2010
United States143 Posts
August 07 2011 17:00 GMT
#71
The NFL makes so much money it's not even funny so it can support these type of things for lesser relative value. Buy GomTV passes to support ESPORTS! :D
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 07 2011 17:04 GMT
#72
GSL's HD quality is pretty bad, even 720P you can't even compare it to other streaming tourney. Why can't they edit the VODs to the true 720P, not 480p-stretch-out-pixel.
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
August 07 2011 17:07 GMT
#73
Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the point of comparing the quality of the webcast of the highest rated, most expensive American TV broadcasts with an sc2 startup?

The NFL has the infrastructure, revenue, and staff to broadcast more than a dozen games all from different stadiums across the country and put them them all on TV in 1080p, every Sunday. Nearly half of them will air to full national audiences numbering well more than 10 million. The production requirements for a traveling TV broadcast, especially from a stadium that seats 50-60,000 people, are vastly higher than for starcraft.

GOMtv has a little studio where a dozen or so spectators come to watch a few (semi-) progamers play and talk about starcraft 2. A few hundred thousand worldwide will see the matches. Only a portion will pay for it.

Starcraft 2 is a passionate, but relatively tiny, community. NFL is the dominant American sport. We here find great value in the GSL, but suggesting they're on similar terms is... kinda silly.
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
August 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#74
On August 08 2011 01:56 Gfire wrote:
The Gom Player has DVR function, doesn't it?

Can you manually move the slider back during live broadcasts? I was not aware they display a slider at all during live sessions.

On August 08 2011 02:00 niteblaze wrote:
The NFL makes so much money it's not even funny so it can support these type of things for lesser relative value. Buy GomTV passes to support ESPORTS! :D


http://i.imgur.com/OGv2c.jpg

I may have been with gom premium longer than most
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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
August 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#75
On August 08 2011 02:07 Wren wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the point of comparing the quality of the webcast of the highest rated, most expensive American TV broadcasts with an sc2 startup?


Actually, it was to show that gom isn't that far behind in technical specs and their premium service does offer great value. I find it odd that you see this the other way around.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:44:03
August 07 2011 17:43 GMT
#76
For the tournament trees you have to go in the news (yeah, they should make a section for that)
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/news/65841
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors5/news/65837
tarath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 18:05:35
August 07 2011 17:55 GMT
#77
Umm, your completely ignoring NFL rewind which is $40 + $15 for playoffs and gets you commercial free VODs of every single game they day after they air so ~80 hours per week of entertainment.

Simply destroys GOM in value for people who mainly watch VODs. Personally I far prefer vods to watching live.

https://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/secure/packages
beridoxy
Profile Joined August 2010
France54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 17:57:01
August 07 2011 17:55 GMT
#78
On August 06 2011 18:54 jacen wrote:
Bandwidth/Codec
For VODs HQ delivers ~2000 kbit/sec, while SQ goes for ~1000 kbit/sec. The Strean offers 500

No, the VOD bandwith is half. Look at this page. I can confirm you it's 1M on average (variable). I would really like more birate here, but well at least it loads ok.
And yes it use MPEG-4 H264 for video and MPEG3 for audio.

denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
August 07 2011 17:56 GMT
#79
On August 08 2011 02:14 jacen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 02:07 Wren wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the point of comparing the quality of the webcast of the highest rated, most expensive American TV broadcasts with an sc2 startup?


Actually, it was to show that gom isn't that far behind in technical specs and their premium service does offer great value. I find it odd that you see this the other way around.


Great point. I've really enjoyed the GSL so far. I think I get a lot of value for every season's subscription. I would like to see GOM create something like a year-long pass at a discounted rate for us loyal fans like jacen. People who are not sure they want to buy an entire year can still buy every season on its own, but I think a bulk package will make some sense as well.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 07 2011 18:08 GMT
#80
People- stop complaining about the GSL- the games are great- the prize pool is huge every month- and i think the production quality is perfectly fine. The live stream and the VODs, have never failed me. Sure its not full HD- but it is HQ and completely watchable. As for the NFL season pass- it is also great for teh footbal enthusiast- great value- and you see more than you want to with that =] buy both- GSL is like $120 a year ($10 x 12 months) so definitively worth it considering the amount of games.
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