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Lunchador
United States776 Posts
On August 06 2011 08:54 Soulish wrote: gold on korean is gold on NA, there's really no distinction between leagues until high diamond+. KR Platinum league though. Those guys can play! | ||
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Teiwaz
Austria158 Posts
Well, best way to stimulate a competetive nature is to give them something they can't handle now and have to figure out how to do it. So crushing Yellow with Hellions might have been the best way to get him into SC2. Only time will show... | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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Slago
Canada726 Posts
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
On August 06 2011 10:09 PhiliBiRD wrote: sad that the chat was more interesting than the games Did anyone expect the games to actually be competitive. It's like putting up a sign for Nestea vs Jaedong to see who is the best Zerg ... the fact is the games are different enough that the players who aren't currently competing in SC2 won't immediately pick it up. | ||
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sh4w
United States713 Posts
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whoopingchow
United States293 Posts
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theDragoon
Canada307 Posts
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BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
On August 06 2011 08:54 Soulish wrote: gold on korean is gold on NA, there's really no distinction between leagues until high diamond+. Now, are you making this statement without ever playing on KR ladder? I've seen some bronzes with airtight builds and 200+ apm on KR. Gold there is borderline masters on NA. I would say that KR is consistently two leagues ahead, from my experiences on both servers. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On August 06 2011 11:15 BrassMonkey27 wrote: Now, are you making this statement without ever playing on KR ladder? I've seen some bronzes with airtight builds and 200+ apm on KR. Gold there is borderline masters on NA. I would say that KR is consistently two leagues ahead, from my experiences on both servers. as long as the leagues are still distributed similarly (top 200 GM, top 2% Masters, top x% Platinum, etc) i would assume you are correct. the top Korean players are much better, and the average Korean player is better. it doesn't make sense that someone in the 70th percentile on KR server wouldn't be better than someone in the 70th percentile on NA. | ||
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Skamtet
Canada634 Posts
On August 06 2011 09:36 marttorn wrote: Oh, so according to that; destiny being masters on KR so he's a bonjwa or something on NA?It's abit of a long story, some PvT 4gating involved etc, but basically I met a korean guy on NA server (pretty sure it was true) and he was high masters. However, later, he advertised his stream as a gold level KR server player. You'll have to take my word for that, as I experienced it I didn't think I'd have to bring forth proof it happened later (>,<) You make little sense to me. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On August 06 2011 11:35 Skamtet wrote: Oh, so according to that; destiny being masters on KR so he's a bonjwa or something on NA? You make little sense to me. Haha, no, we're talking about leagues here, nothing transcending beyond that. Not talking about the proscene, just ladder, and you bringing up anything beyond the skill level of ladder is a bit silly (^_^) At the tip top level, ladder doesn't mean all that much. I'd be willing to bet that Bomber and Ace are both in GM, yet destiny takes games off of them as masters (this is the same for the NA and EU ladder, anybody high masters/low GM can probably take a game off a pro on a good day) Also, you didn't acknowledge my statement as correct or false, rather you tried to apply my logic to a completely different scenario (>,<) At the ladder level, i'd say below GM, KR is far faar ahead of every other server, as evidenced not only by what I said but by what everybody else who has played on both will probably say. As such, gold level players on KR are in masters on NA. At the pro level things kind of even out, and ladder doesn't matter too much. FXO players are probably taking games off deep GSL runners, if not champions, every day. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 06 2011 11:44 marttorn wrote: Haha, no, we're talking about leagues here, nothing transcending beyond that. Not talking about the proscene, just ladder, and you bringing up anything beyond the skill level of ladder is a bit silly (^_^) At the tip top level, ladder doesn't mean all that much. I'd be willing to bet that Bomber and Ace are both in GM, yet destiny takes games off of them as masters (this is the same for the NA and EU ladder, anybody high masters/low GM can probably take a game off a pro on a good day) Also, you didn't acknowledge my statement as correct or false, rather you tried to apply my logic to a completely different scenario (>,<) At the ladder level, i'd say below GM, KR is far faar ahead of every other server, as evidenced not only by what I said but by what everybody else who has played on both will probably say. As such, gold level players on KR are in masters on NA. At the pro level things kind of even out, and ladder doesn't matter too much. FXO players are probably taking games off deep GSL runners, if not champions, every day. I wouldn't go as far as to say gold players are masters. They really aren't, in my comparisons to both servers, diamond is easily masters though. A diamond korean would be a low-mid masters player without a sweat imo. But gold/plat are definitely not masters level (though their build orders are more thought out still). | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On August 06 2011 11:15 BrassMonkey27 wrote: Now, are you making this statement without ever playing on KR ladder? I've seen some bronzes with airtight builds and 200+ apm on KR. Gold there is borderline masters on NA. I would say that KR is consistently two leagues ahead, from my experiences on both servers. Yea, diamond KR = NA grandmasters everyone! | ||
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
On August 06 2011 09:50 Goldfish wrote: I felt bad for yellow and boxer :\. Boxer should have been easier on Yellow (should have let him macro up to brood lords or something). Anyone ever have that feeling of planning something exciting (like a party or something), then it happens but no one is having fun >.>? Seemed that way for Yellow >.<. Edit - I just read the interview where Boxer said he was trying to lift up Yellow's competitive spirit. Makes sense I guess but he should have still went easier on him at least in this event IMO. Speaking from the perspective of an athlete (rather than an SC 2 player), I can say that if I were competing against someone who was better than me I would hate it for them to dumb down their play style just to "humour" me or whatever. I would actually find it sort of insulting. And I think Yellow was probably unhappy with himself for being in that situation, it's never fun to get roflstomped, especially when you're basically a god in the predecessor. | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
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ETisME
12703 Posts
Good luck Yellow if you ever come to the SC2 scene, I liked that game you won a lot (through boxer was clearly letting him win) | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
On August 06 2011 06:58 EnSky wrote: BoxeR was so talkative. I think he was trying hard to motivate YelloW to play better and give the fans a good show. However, YelloW seemed bored the entire series.  This lols. BoxeR seemed kinda desperate for some reason. | ||
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
BoxeR: I knew you would like those green kongs Referring to banelings XD | ||
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