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Doof
United States204 Posts
On August 03 2011 04:57 s4life wrote: err.. they need a couple of koreans in there and a real coach. I don't see this working well tbh. Just being together, living and talking starcraft all day will give them a big edge over people not living in a team house, I think | ||
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hALLE
Sweden19 Posts
On August 02 2011 18:26 Talin wrote: I read this post, then I had to go back and check OP to see if they really wrote that. And they did. Oh god. -_- Hey guys, you know that theres more to ESPORTS then sc2 right? Their Street Fighter lineup is pretty beastly, cant tell you about their quake and cs teams as I do not follow those but I hope my point still comes across  | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Mvz
206 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:26 Doof wrote: Just being together, living and talking starcraft all day will give them a big edge over people not living in a team house, I think Yeah but every player that has a true shot at the first place in every major tournament today is most likely playing in a teamhouse in Korea. So is their goal to be the best team around and being capable of winning or finish ~top 5 in a big event like MLG, or is their goal to smash NA players and being able to call themself the best team in America and maybe outside of Korea to please their sponsors? | ||
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Stonedviper
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MarkyO
United States20 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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chokke
Norway228 Posts
On August 03 2011 03:13 SafeAsCheese wrote: Being in the pools means they faced harder opponents. Out of White-Ra's runs, only his last 3 or so opponents were actually known names, and he eventually lost to one. Just another reason for them to not be in pool.. It's basically be in pool - stay in pool. Look at Incontrol.... sigh Thank god it has american production, just another reason not to watch that tournament while I enjoy european and korean dominance both playwise and productionvalue. | ||
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:44 lol wrote: Yeah but every player that has a true shot at the first place in every major tournament today is most likely playing in a teamhouse in Korea. So is their goal to be the best team around and being capable of winning or finish ~top 5 in a big event like MLG, or is their goal to smash NA players and being able to call themself the best team in America and maybe outside of Korea to please their sponsors? So what exactly are you saying? That to have a chance, they need to be in Korea? Because of the Korean ladder? Or are you just saying the only teams capable of developing the best talent are the Korean teams? Regardless, I think we can all agree that this is going to make EG better. It is also a good sign for western e-sports as a whole. This all reminds me, just how important IS it to be on the Korean Battle.net? Liquid-Tyler talked about it on a state of the game (if I remember right) and it sounded like there were much fewer easy games and that build orders were much more refined. He also said that before the tsunami that hit Japan, that the connection was playable. It seems that it would make sense for EG to set up their team with korean accounts (I assume they already have), and set up their team house with a good connection to Korea. I have no clue how much they cost, but I believe you can get a SLA through Verizon from the US to Korea which promises sub-200ms ping times and 1% or less packet loss. | ||
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LuckedOut
77 Posts
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darlhet
Italy548 Posts
On August 03 2011 04:13 ZestyPickle wrote: Idra was good? Im pretty sure he still is one of the beat foreigners. do you still think he's capable of playing against top level code s koreans? he's not, why? because the koreans have gotten way better due to their training while he did not | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On August 03 2011 06:14 chokke wrote: Just another reason for them to not be in pool.. It's basically be in pool - stay in pool. Look at Incontrol.... sigh Thank god it has american production, just another reason not to watch that tournament while I enjoy european and korean dominance both playwise and productionvalue. Uhhh I really don't like that comment as it a. derogatorily generalizes a large population as being inferior, and b. is based off intensely skewed biases. If you watched the recent MLG, you would realize that the production of MLG is quite good now, and if you have seen IPL, it has one of the better productions out there. Furthermore, NA's best frequently bests European players. I don't really know why you are being inflammatory, but my careful and honest recommendation is that you stop using such aggressive diction. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:26 Doof wrote: Just being together, living and talking starcraft all day will give them a big edge over people not living in a team house, I think True enough, but those aren't the people they are competing with. Any big tournament is going to have a strong Korean representation, and those are the ones they are competing with. Maybe for the sake of being a top NA player, its enough, but not to actually win MLG/DH/TSL/etc. Koreans are playing and practicing in team houses with a coach and a strict training schedule. Many Koreans in interviews say that their coach plays a huge role in their progression as a player, so we can only assume they are useful. The only way NA players are going to catch up to the Korean scene is by not allowing Koreans to have an advantage in practicing. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 03 2011 06:37 darlhet wrote: do you still think he's capable of playing against top level code s koreans? he's not, why? because the koreans have gotten way better due to their training while he did not Waht does that have to do with what he said? If IdrA cannot compete with the top koreans, neither can Huk, Jinro, Sen, Naniwa, or Thorzain. They might take a series or two, but eh.... MC is much easier to knock out of tourneys because of his race (PvP), but these super solid terrans cannot be easily knocked out and will continue to dominate. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:34 mrRoflpwn wrote: I do believe that in an interview Sir Scoots did say that Puma will be staying in Korea because it would be easier for him to practice and he would not have to adapt to a new social environment. Who will he be training with then? Will he just sit home alone? Training with people online without teammates being around you irl doesn't seem to be nearly as effective as training in a teamhouse. I have a feeling that would diminish his improvement. | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On August 03 2011 04:41 Chill wrote: True. Super false in my experience. The oil and gas industry is actually one of the least competitive fields at entry level. There are a lot of jobs to go around, the majority pay reasonably well, and there is reasonably high turnover. But yes, you absolutely need a degree to play. I have a cousin who makes roughly that managing a mcdonalds in denver, he works about 55-60 hours a week because of turnover but the money is still there. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 03 2011 06:44 SafeAsCheese wrote: Waht does that have to do with what he said? If IdrA cannot compete with the top koreans, neither can Huk, Jinro, Sen, Naniwa, or Thorzain. They might take a series or two, but eh.... MC is much easier to knock out of tourneys because of his race (PvP), but these super solid terrans cannot be easily knocked out and will continue to dominate. That isn't true at all. It depends how you train. Yes, a lot of top foreigners can take a series or two for various reasons. The title of the thread is a bit misleading. Several of them already lived together in Arizona and like I said before, it comes down to how they train, who they train with (at least they're all around the same skill level) and the culture in the house. The latter being the most important. What EG could use is another set of eyes so to speak. All these players are well acquainted with one another. They could use some opposing views/ideas certainly as it would give them a different look. From what I've heard and read, Puma is only coming down 2 weeks prior to certain events. That really only benefits him as he gets to adjust to the time zone and prepare. The title should be "Team EG get a new pad." | ||
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Lysergic
United States355 Posts
So Puma's basically just on a team in the sense that he'll be wearing an EG logo at tournaments, but not talking or interacting or playing with his team. Makes me feel bad for Idra too, was hoping he'd finally get a practice partner who is up to par with him. | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
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ExemplarSC
United States2 Posts
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