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On July 30 2011 08:27 Dingobloo wrote:


Not necessarily true, as they said, they'll be sending out replays to trusted casters to cast, so I'm sure if iccup put a request in they could get them. Though we don't know what "trusted" means in this case.

On July 30 2011 08:22 atmuh wrote:
You guys are also forgetting that since there is no GM its so incredibly easy to add players to your friend's list by simply going through random masters divisions, going through players you find's match history, and repeating.

You can literally add every single player at MLG as easy as ever right now.

On July 30 2011 08:33 koonst wrote:
people forget pro's have actualy posted there names and codes in forums like team liquid and such in the past..
people have many ways to get them on their friends list already.,. a replay is just a twig in a forest to them.

On July 30 2011 08:33 rave[wcr] wrote:
release the replays after the event!

On July 30 2011 08:32 Frek wrote:
I really don't think anyone is getting the issue:

MLG is saying they won't be releasing replays AFTER the event. All the garbage about casters getting spammed or players getting spammed doesn't mean anything in this discussion. Please don't try to sympathize with MLG on this. It is quite obvious they aren't releasing the replays after the tourney because they want to sell said replays to casters.

On July 30 2011 08:35 SxYSpAz wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +

Can someone please explain why this wouldn't work?!?!? WTF!?!?!

On July 30 2011 08:35 meursault wrote:
Because of this decision by MLG I will not be purchasing the Gold membership I had planned to purchase (I have purchased several seasons of GSL and the first NASL season previously). In addition I will be using ad-blocking software when watching any MLG matches whether on their own streams or on youtube or bliptv channels of the privileged few who get to see the replays. I hope many others take these steps so they realize that doing this will not get them any more ad revenue or membership purchases.

On July 30 2011 08:36 Chicane wrote:


I don't know... this was my first thought though.

Maybe they have to use the same accounts afterwards? But I'm pretty sure that's not the case, otherwise they will have the same problems with the same trolls as last time.

On July 30 2011 08:35 meursault wrote:
Because of this decision by MLG I will not be purchasing the Gold membership I had planned to purchase (I have purchased several seasons of GSL and the first NASL season previously). In addition I will be using ad-blocking software when watching any MLG matches whether on their own streams or on youtube or bliptv channels of the privileged few who get to see the replays. I hope many others take these steps so they realize that doing this will not get them any more ad revenue or membership purchases.

On July 30 2011 08:38 TheButtonmen wrote:


So you're going to punish the people who make content and give back the community like iCCup, Husky, IPL, PsyStarcraft and Day[9] because you're angry at MLG.

Awesome logic there.

On July 30 2011 07:46 MLG_Lee wrote:
A couple points of clarification:

1) Releasing replays exposes the event to risk that we're not comfortable with. Happy to debate the level of relative risk, but it's there. If I can remove ANY risk from the event, I'm going to. Do any of you really think I or anyone else at MLG want to repeat Dallas?
2) This has nothing to do with GSL or Korean players wanting to be protected on the replays. That was a point of discussion and all LXP players understand that MLG has the right to release the replays anytime we want to.
3) Modifying replay files (not reading them) is a violation of Blizzard's ToS. I maybe could get permission to do it, but there's a lot of legal issues tied up in that. We already know how to do it. But we'd have to check them all before releasing them.
4) The issues around this are not just technical, they're also rules based. Yes, we could require in the rules that every player sets busy (already the case) and opens six chats. But then what do you do if someone forgets and lags? Is it fair to allow a restart? or should we call them on a technical? We don't make these decisions lightly.
5) Releasing the replays to casters that we work with and trust is the least risky way to get SOME of this content out. I know it's not everything that everyone wants. At the end of the day though, we can fund events because we can monetize content. Keep in mind that we lose a tremendous amount of money every event. Our productions are not cheap. Sat trucks alone are a solid six figure number.
6) Not going to discuss in a public forum how you can get to the chat name. That's like teaching people how to break your own event ;p R1CH, love to chat with you about it some offline/inpriv.

This step is being taken to protect the operations of the event. Replays are not going to be released at this event. When we have some more time to consider things and think through ALL the issues, we'll re-evaluate. But this is not a decision that we'll revisit here. We know how valuable this is to the community and we definitively listen to the community, I think we've proven that.

I appreciate constructive criticism and the satire is worth a good laugh too.

Bear in mind that at GotFrag (of which I was a founder and prez), we hosted .dem (replays for Counter-Strike) for every match we could find at every event. They're still available there. I know exactly how much we all love having access to the replays. And I know this is an unpopular decision with much of the community.

But see above for the straight scoop on why we're doing this.

EDIT: DDOS is a poor choice of words in our release. Chat spam on the game clients which lags the game is what was meant.
EDIT: And yes, I know you can find other ways to get to the same information. But I can't stop those. I can reduce risk on things I can control. Not taking those steps is negligent.

On July 30 2011 08:35 meursault wrote:
Because of this decision by MLG I will not be purchasing the Gold membership I had planned to purchase (I have purchased several seasons of GSL and the first NASL season previously). In addition I will be using ad-blocking software when watching any MLG matches whether on their own streams or on youtube or bliptv channels of the privileged few who get to see the replays. I hope many others take these steps so they realize that doing this will not get them any more ad revenue or membership purchases.