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On July 30 2011 08:38 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 08:35 meursault wrote: Because of this decision by MLG I will not be purchasing the Gold membership I had planned to purchase (I have purchased several seasons of GSL and the first NASL season previously). In addition I will be using ad-blocking software when watching any MLG matches whether on their own streams or on youtube or bliptv channels of the privileged few who get to see the replays. I hope many others take these steps so they realize that doing this will not get them any more ad revenue or membership purchases. So you're going to punish the people who make content and give back the community like iCCup, Husky, IPL, PsyStarcraft and Day[9] because you're angry at MLG. Awesome logic there.
You realize they all make money? They don't sit on toilets making honey all day
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I'm extremely disappointed. I was looking forward to studying the MLG replays in detail. Why can't they simply release them after the event to the public? This is a huge blow to me caring at all about MLG to be completely honest. With all the stream and scheduling problems they've had in the past, Columbus had me rooting for them to be the best, but this basically throws all of that faith away. Looks like that Gold membership isn't worth it, what a poor investment on my part.
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Another tournament that does something that GSL does and gets criticized for it while GSL doesn't!
What a surprise!
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so basically i dont get to watch hardly any of the games i wanted to watch for MLG... white-ra's games better be streamed from the open bracket or im not even going to bother watching the stream all weekend =/
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kinda sucks but mlgs gotta do what is best for the event and everyone else involved and i think that this is fine although i do wish i could watch the replays
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I am hoping they can talk to Blizzard and work something out so they can release the replays at a later date.
Fingers crossed for MLG to figure out a way to release them.
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Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.
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if MLG can't explain why they can't release them after the event then i'm only left to put on my tin-foil hat and assume they are going to distribute them to whichever casters they'd like and then put those VODs on MLG's website in low quality for everyone with ads, and high quality for Gold members with little to no ads
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Does his reasoning cover replays released after the event?
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Not releasing after the event is the real problem here. I don't want to study replays via some caster's VODs, I want to study them for myself. It's just absurd, use smurf accounts for god's sake.
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On July 30 2011 08:51 jmbthirteen wrote: Another tournament that does something that GSL does and gets criticized for it while GSL doesn't!
What a surprise!
Its really different. GSL doesnt release replays because the Koreans do not want their plays studied by others. NASL doesnt release replays because they want to earn money (they are supposed to be released after the event to subscribers only).
The main reason so many is unhappy at MLG is their reasons for not releasing the replays are full of holes, which as many in this thread has point out.
Overall, I dont understand why they cant release it after the tournament, or even make it available to subscribers only if money is a issue.
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On July 30 2011 08:56 R1CH wrote: Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.
That is good enough reason for me , but what is the reasoning behind not releasing them days after.
If MLG is doing this for money, so be it. This is a company first and people need to respect that. However a certain level of transparency need to be shown. I don't think many people would be against MLG for doing it for money, we just want to know the truth.
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if they release them 1 week later people wont be pissed
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On July 30 2011 08:56 R1CH wrote: Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.
What about after the event? Does he address that?
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On July 30 2011 08:56 R1CH wrote: Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.
from the point of view of someone who knows nothing about this, why do replays even contain that kind of data? it seems so pointless
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On July 30 2011 08:56 R1CH wrote: Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.
And after it? Same thing?
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On July 30 2011 08:56 R1CH wrote: Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event.
Not releasing it during the event is actually fine, can you see why they don't want to release it after the event? =(
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On July 30 2011 08:56 R1CH wrote: Lee has given me his reasoning in private, but I don't have enough information to know if it's technically valid or not. Erring on absolute caution, I can see why they don't want to release replays during the event. but what about after its over
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R1CH has spoken. Sounds like the MLG people have at least a legitimate concern.
In a way this was kind of inevitable. It's bad policy for professional tournaments to release their content for free, they do need to make money.
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On July 30 2011 08:51 jmbthirteen wrote: Another tournament that does something that GSL does and gets criticized for it while GSL doesn't!
What a surprise! That's because we won't be able to change the mind of the people in charge of the GSL, not releasing replays is the Korean way. But its not uncommon for foreign tournaments to release replays and MLG has released replays from all their other tournaments.
I hope they change their minds and release the replays after the events, it would be a shame for so many of the weekends games to never be seen.
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