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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:09 Endure wrote: why dont they release it after the event? Yeah. I don't understand the reason for them not to release replays because they can't "clean" all the replays in time. Can't they just make a simple app that will automate their "clean-up" process? | ||
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:15 SKC wrote: Lee already said this has nothing to do with the koreans. He said it's an exploit. I'm sure R1ch will privatelly talk to him. If R1ch agrees, I'm sure noone else will them doubt. what do you mean by "it's an exploit"? | ||
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The Stapler
United States326 Posts
it's science | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
They could use the Replays to trace players and spam messages, causing lag and disconnects. Some of the problems MLG had in the previous events where because of that. A big part of the problem is Blizzard fault for a shitty busy system, so exploit may not be the correct term. It has been discussed by people who know far more than me in the first pages, if you are really curious. | ||
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[NSL]BansheeHero
Czech Republic143 Posts
I am not saying this is the case. But if it was, then clearly cause problems with limited bandwidth at such events as is this one. Remember there is 256 +16 players logged in at pretty much the same time. Abusing the battle.net session or even the protocol (Which is a black box) to DDoS the service would be catastrophic for the event. I hope they release the replays after the event is over, otherwise its kind of dumb. | ||
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RedHelix
250 Posts
I don't think it's even feasable to sell replays, we all know that as soon as the replays are made available to the public by any means they will find themselves on the internet one way or another. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
+ they can do even add messages to their own /dnd like "/dnd !@#$%^&" and that'd solve all the issues... but they decided to remove all the chat commands in place for gui functions with click to use | ||
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atmuh
United States246 Posts
You can literally add every single player at MLG as easy as ever right now. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:16 EnSky wrote: Yeah. I don't understand the reason for them not to release replays because they can't "clean" all the replays in time. Can't they just make a simple app that will automate their "clean-up" process? This is what I was going to ask. If they're worried about the replays being released during the event, why not just release them the day after the event? Are there other reasons for this? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:20 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote: I think people are to hung up on character codes. This may have nothing to do with that. There can exist a packet falsified using the data from the replay, which will be forwarded to the player. (Remember that BNet 2.0 works a big router hiding all the accounts.) I am not saying this is the case. But if it was, then clearly cause problems with limited bandwidth at such events as is this one. Remember there is 256 +16 players logged in at pretty much the same time. Abusing the battle.net session or even the protocol (Which is a black box) to DDoS the service would be catastrophic for the event. I hope they release the replays after the event is over, otherwise its kind of dumb. i think the biggest problem was the fact they would not release them after the event. It very understanble even with what we know so far that they don't do it during it. Still, there may be something else we don't know yet. | ||
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:20 SKC wrote: They could use the Replays to trace players and spam messages, causing lag and disconnects. Some of the problems MLG had in the previous events where because of that. A big part of the problem is Blizzard fault for a shitty busy system, so exploit may not be the correct term. It has been discussed by people who know far more than me in the first pages, if you are really curious. okay, but a lot of people have said the obvious thing... as well as i have. How does this matter if MLG releases them afterwards? and tbh i can't imagine an answer that i'll trust from them, since this was the most obvious solution to the problem and if lagging the players really was the reason and there was something wrong with this solution they would have been smart enough to address why this wouldn't fix the problem. And btw, how could this not fix it? maybe i'm overlooking something, but it seems like there's alterior motives in play here | ||
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justdweezil
United States186 Posts
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
The in-game spamming of players, the casters who were just re-casting games that were already available as MLG vods for youtube revenue with little or no attribution. sigh. It's unfortunate because cramming as many games as MLG does into the 2 and a half days means it's almost impossible to cover adequately, but they need to in order to fund their prize pool. I guess a lot of the replays are going to be re-cast as MLG Live content as well? It's a pity, the replays are much more valuable as a player in order to look at specific builds or specific players. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
On July 30 2011 07:56 R1CH wrote: Sent you an email, curious to see how this is possible. Still don't see how this affects releasing replays post-event though. Basically this. But please keep in mind Lee you just gave even more ammunition for players to want to spam players and etc. I can see whispers now "FREE THE REPLAYS" just in hopes the player forgets to set to busy. If you think that not releasing the replays makes the players vulnerable for the next event then that is one thing. But don't try to out smart the community by saying the risk is higher for post event replays versus when they are sitting at the event and everyone (that is going to troll regardless) is messaging and finding out the char codes anyways. Please keep in mind MLG is one of the only LANs that stick to their guns when releasing replays. You are taking that away from yourself and your community. I hope this is not some ploy to start setting it up so gold members get replays + HD stream. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:16 Goldfish wrote: I think someone should post on the battle.net forums about this issue. Busy (currently) does not actually prevent messages sent to that person (still causes lag if say a few dozen players are spamming the player). Make it so there's some sort of option that prevents messages from lagging a busy player (and/or make an "Invisible" mode where you appear offline and can't be added and can't even be talked to except maybe with friends or players from a white list). Anyone want to make to help make a battle.net thread about this? Sadly though it's Friday which usually means no blues on the weekend (not sure if it's too late or not though). Also even if a fix doesn't hit in time, as long as the fix comes at all (for future events) then that's good enough. | ||
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:25 On_Slaught wrote: Well there goes MLG mondays Not necessarily true, as they said, they'll be sending out replays to trusted casters to cast, so I'm sure if iccup put a request in they could get them. Though we don't know what "trusted" means in this case. | ||
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indo
United States100 Posts
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julianto
2292 Posts
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Roaches
Denmark152 Posts
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