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Season 3 Ladder Map Changes (Official) - Page 2

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FuRRyChoBo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States218 Posts
July 25 2011 21:23 GMT
#21
take out metalopolis and leave backwater and typhon...there's a head-scratcher.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
July 25 2011 21:23 GMT
#22
NOOOOO Metal........
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Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#23
No rocks? Shitty map.
flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:25:15
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#24
Wtf, metalopolis??? Backwater and typhoon staying?

Change it so that close spawn isn't possible and that map is pure gold.
I'm not too happy about this. Any petition in the runs?
Zoia
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States419 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#25
If you look at this from blizzard perspective removing metalopolis makes sense. In Brood War Competitive play was pretty much designed around maps. There wasn't any nerds or changes to the races it was just new maps. Metal has been around for 2 seasons and they want to keep the best aspect of BW(the maps) into play here. We will all move on eventually...
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Kamuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#26
What... the.... FUCK! meta removed?
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#27
They took out metal, but are keeping backwater and typhon >_> I liked scrap too! Oh well, guess I will have to be very judicious about my vetoes
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Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
July 25 2011 21:24 GMT
#28
Metalapolis, noes! Get rid of Backwater and keep Meta! One of my favorite maps except for close spawns.
Melter
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Bulgaria67 Posts
July 25 2011 21:25 GMT
#29
I'm sad about metalopolis, it was(in my mind at least)a very decent and balanced map.
Why would it be used in every tournament's map pool if it was delta quadrant material? Big screw up on that sadly. At least the other 3 maps are removed.
For me sCRAP station and delta were the sort of-either you 4 gate or you lose.
Marcury
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada141 Posts
July 25 2011 21:25 GMT
#30
About time meta got switched out... only been playing it for more than a year now
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
July 25 2011 21:25 GMT
#31
blizzard give any reason for removing metal? i'd like to know the reasoning behind it
TSM
LeoLeo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden456 Posts
July 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#32
Metalopolis is not that good of a map, close position is super boring and it's really stupid in all of the match ups. The 2 main paths can create very unstable games where it's easy that you both counter attack each other. The paths are also very narrow and slow pushing with tanks there and then killing the main on close air position in TvZ is very obnoxious.

Honestly it's not that good of a map, yes it have been so many epic games on that map, but that's mostly because it is the most played map in SC2 so far. Farewell Metalopolis may you rest in peace in the map heaven.

Amen
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frozenrb
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland389 Posts
July 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#33
it's old and boring, i hate it... new maps plox
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
July 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#34
wtf, metalopolis! the close spawn really sucked but still they keep shattered temple in and thats pretty much the same rush distance on close pos. Also keeping backwater, what the hell is going on.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#35
On July 26 2011 06:25 Gator wrote:
blizzard give any reason for removing metal? i'd like to know the reasoning behind it


In Season 3, we’re introducing a number of changes to the map pool; we’re dropping some older maps, and adding a number of new ones. One of the more notable changes we’re making is the removal of Metalopolis. We realize that this is quite a popular map, and we wanted to discuss the reasons why we might make such a change and hopefully lay some of your concerns to rest. We also would like to point out that merely because a map has been removed from the pool, does not mean that it will never make a return in the future. Despite its flaws, Metalopolis has strong potential to be a map that returns in future ladder seasons.

Still, there are reasons why we decided to retire Metalopolis for now:

Metalopolis has been around for quite a long time, over a year including beta. We felt that taking it out of the rotation would make some room for variety in the map pool.

Metalopolis suffers balance issues when close spawn positions occur, but becomes too predictable when they are simply disabled. Close positions have been under a lot of discussion lately, and we’re definitely examining better options to allow for random spawn positions across the map pool without also creating too much predictability and vulnerability to proxy rushes.

Overall balance has also proven to be an issue on Metalopolis -- even factoring in close position spawn issues. It’s among the least balanced maps currently in the ladder pool, and along with Scrap Station (also being removed) and Tal’darim Altar, has a heavy (60%+) bias toward zerg at the highest levels of play.


If Metalopolis makes a return to the ladder pool in the future, it will likely receive some balance tinkering, much like that administered to Lost Temple which resulted in the creation of Shattered Temple. In the meantime, we hope that you enjoy the fresh maps that have been added to the ladder pool in Season 3.
Terrorcore
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada132 Posts
July 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#36
On July 26 2011 06:25 Gator wrote:
blizzard give any reason for removing metal? i'd like to know the reasoning behind it



Map rotation, I suppose. I wouldn't be surprised if Xel'Naga ends up being replaced next season, too.
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#37
Metalopolis removal official reasoning: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2878771457

In Season 3, we’re introducing a number of changes to the map pool; we’re dropping some older maps, and adding a number of new ones. One of the more notable changes we’re making is the removal of Metalopolis. We realize that this is quite a popular map, and we wanted to discuss the reasons why we might make such a change and hopefully lay some of your concerns to rest. We also would like to point out that merely because a map has been removed from the pool, does not mean that it will never make a return in the future. Despite its flaws, Metalopolis has strong potential to be a map that returns in future ladder seasons.

Still, there are reasons why we decided to retire Metalopolis for now:

Metalopolis has been around for quite a long time, over a year including beta. We felt that taking it out of the rotation would make some room for variety in the map pool.

Metalopolis suffers balance issues when close spawn positions occur, but becomes too predictable when they are simply disabled. Close positions have been under a lot of discussion lately, and we’re definitely examining better options to allow for random spawn positions across the map pool without also creating too much predictability and vulnerability to proxy rushes.

Overall balance has also proven to be an issue on Metalopolis -- even factoring in close position spawn issues. It’s among the least balanced maps currently in the ladder pool, and along with Scrap Station (also being removed) and Tal’darim Altar, has a heavy (60%+) bias toward zerg at the highest levels of play.


If Metalopolis makes a return to the ladder pool in the future, it will likely receive some balance tinkering, much like that administered to Lost Temple which resulted in the creation of Shattered Temple. In the meantime, we hope that you enjoy the fresh maps that have been added to the ladder pool in Season 3.
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Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#38
Wtf leave Meta in there and take out Shitwater Gulch
It aint easy being crazy
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#39
Metalopolis....
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 21:27:47
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#40
I don't mind scrapping Metalopolis. It's pretty old. I don't want it to be the new Python.

Overall, it seems like they took out the less popular maps. Let's see if the new maps can live up to it.

Really wish they added an iCCup or GSL map.
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