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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 24 2011 03:01 GMT
#601
On July 24 2011 11:58 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 11:53 Chicane wrote:
On July 24 2011 11:40 MildSeven wrote:
is Catz ok with this? Wouldn't he cry about Koreans joining his team and stealing his money?


I thought that his issue was that they have no involvement in the foreign scene whatsoever, and any money they won would go straight back into Korea.


Complexity already said DRG and Genius keep 100% of the prize money, so however you slice it all the prize money is still going back to korea. Same with the SK/OGS deal. I like these deals cause I get to see more koreans in foreign tournies.

Still hoping someone teams with IM so we get MVP/Nestea to more tournies!


Well I don't know if MVP takes a cut or not... so let's just assume they don't, my point was still that it gives the coL and MVP name more recognition which is good for sponsors, and once again the coL players can benefit from a place to stay when in Korea.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 24 2011 04:01 GMT
#602
What is going on in the world of e-sports??? I almost expect epic news every day now
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WR4TH
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States72 Posts
July 24 2011 04:09 GMT
#603
I love seeing these deals. They benefit the spectators just as much as the players involved. With the increased sponsorship going to the Koreans, who at the moment have a leg up on the foreign competition , we will get to see the best competition showing up at every major event.

Idra will have less opportunities to write off tourney wins by "lucky players" because there were no Koreans at an event.

Plus I really just want to see DRG at MLG Orlando.
ShaunO
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
July 24 2011 04:25 GMT
#604
CatZ to korea! that would be awesome.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 24 2011 05:10 GMT
#605
Words cannot describe how hard my boner is right now.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
July 24 2011 09:56 GMT
#606
these have been some pretty intense turns of events for sc2 and esports in the last couple of weeks. surreal
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
July 24 2011 10:12 GMT
#607
Loving that korea is finally stepping out into the world! =)
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 24 2011 10:20 GMT
#608
Team MVP stream starting soon! DRG just tweeted about it! Quite excited!
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tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
July 24 2011 12:05 GMT
#609
gj CoL.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 24 2011 15:22 GMT
#610
So good to see foreign communities getting so involved in Korean teams.
This is definitely the proper way to do it.
Going to make everyone happy financially and coL gets their name closer to some really good players.
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Coruscant
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore84 Posts
July 24 2011 19:45 GMT
#611
Sounds like the SK/oGs deal. Interesting to see so much foreign interest in the Korean SC2 scene now.

Won't beat FXO buying over fOu though...
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
July 24 2011 20:00 GMT
#612
Pretty weird deal given it involves the sharing of players between teams, and that it only applies to certain players.

Im not sure i understand the motive for Mvp wanting to do this. Seeing as Drg is by far their most potent player.
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Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 24 2011 20:04 GMT
#613
Weird deal. A tad better than the shitty SK\MCNADA deal, but still...
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
July 24 2011 21:27 GMT
#614
Sick news once again, the korean scene is becoming global for real .
bl
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia16 Posts
July 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#615
can someone please explain why all of a sudden all these korean teams are merging with international
teams, is this because of MLG and other tournaments enticing korean players so they are combining forces to help fund the transit between ? either way i think it's great and its going to be cool to see who teams up with who.

YAY E-SPORTS !!!!!!!
bl dhf
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 22:08:53
July 24 2011 22:03 GMT
#616
On July 25 2011 06:37 bl wrote:
can someone please explain why all of a sudden all these korean teams are merging with international
teams, is this because of MLG and other tournaments enticing korean players so they are combining forces to help fund the transit between ? either way i think it's great and its going to be cool to see who teams up with who.

YAY E-SPORTS !!!!!!!


Its because they dont have enough money basically. For instance with fou/FXO, fou literally were at breaking point financially. Korea might have the training facilities, but for now the teams that are established there are not in general major players in a financial sense


10 years of broodwar might have put them ahead where training etc is concerned, but the sc2 teams in korea, as far as im aware are as new as the game (dont hold me to that but I think its true). On the other hand the western teams might not have been supporting brood war, but for the past 10 years many of them have been developing as comparatively strong buisnesses through support of other more prominent games. Whereas these western teams are picking up sc2, the Korean brood war sides arnt, and they are the ones who hold the Korean money on lock down. The Korean sc2 teams cant get none at home :-/
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
July 24 2011 22:20 GMT
#617
Cool, this is awesome for foreign teams. Its really cool to see a lot of Korean teams/players joining up with foreign teams, i think its really beneficial to esports
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Hemera
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark15 Posts
July 24 2011 22:52 GMT
#618
This is bad news for the foreign community, in my opinion at least. Already the koreans who've been to foreign tourneys have absolutely demolished all competition with a few rare exceptions (notably HuK's perfomance in Dreamhack). By bringing more and more top koreans to the foreign scene, which is already fragile and still in its infancy, I expect the number of foreign players in foreign tourneys will drop simply because they cannot keep up with their korean peers. People will get discouraged from playing because they will get demolished or they will get choked out because there are only so many open spots available, and with more and better koreans arriving to grab hold of these spots, there ultimately will only be space for the ultimate elite of foreigners.

I hate to discriminate, but lets keep the total number of koreans in MLG for instance at 4-6, as MLG Colubmus play-wise was a farce.

One last thing. Why would a team like MVP sign a partnership with a team like Complexity, if not for money and publicity. To me it just seems like Complexity is being used as a tool to send DRG, Genius etc to foreign tourneys to earn money and honour for team MVP. Sure, their handles will be coL.DRG and coL.Genius, but who are they honestly fooling.

Best of luck to Complexity's players if they can (AND WILL) go to Korea to practice. It's not a guarantee for success or progress. Look at Jinro.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 24 2011 22:54 GMT
#619
On July 25 2011 07:52 Hemera wrote:
This is bad news for the foreign community, in my opinion at least. Already the koreans who've been to foreign tourneys have absolutely demolished all competition with a few rare exceptions (notably HuK's perfomance in Dreamhack). By bringing more and more top koreans to the foreign scene, which is already fragile and still in its infancy, I expect the number of foreign players in foreign tourneys will drop simply because they cannot keep up with their korean peers. People will get discouraged from playing because they will get demolished or they will get choked out because there are only so many open spots available, and with more and better koreans arriving to grab hold of these spots, there ultimately will only be space for the ultimate elite of foreigners.

I hate to discriminate, but lets keep the total number of koreans in MLG for instance at 4-6, as MLG Colubmus play-wise was a farce.

One last thing. Why would a team like MVP sign a partnership with a team like Complexity, if not for money and publicity. To me it just seems like Complexity is being used as a tool to send DRG, Genius etc to foreign tourneys to earn money and honour for team MVP. Sure, their handles will be coL.DRG and coL.Genius, but who are they honestly fooling.

Best of luck to Complexity's players if they can (AND WILL) go to Korea to practice. It's not a guarantee for success or progress. Look at Jinro.


Why do you care what country a player is from? Why would support an American over a Korean? Neither of the countries are anywhere near you.
Hemera
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 23:01:44
July 24 2011 23:00 GMT
#620

Why do you care what country a player is from? Why would support an American over a Korean? Neither of the countries are anywhere near you.


Because it's going to choke the foreign scene when only 2 foreign players make it further than round 1 of the open brackets and the rest is korean players who have a "partnership" deal with a foreign team..
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