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Koillette
56 Posts
Simple like you work at a fastfood place. Somebody else offer you a better job. You give you two week(or whatever long) notice that you are leaving. Like they told him to talk to he's coach. Then he went for it. You can under coach lees point of view. He train this player, they were one of his best players for what i have heared. But simple coach lee could have offer pump a contract also. But I don't know all the detail of the issue. Just my 2cents | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
That one made me laugh! | ||
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:11 Koillette wrote: I don't see anything that was wrong here. Puma got offered a better "job" and he took it. Simple like you work at a fastfood place. Somebody else offer you a better job. You give you two week(or whatever long) notice that you are leaving. Like they told him to talk to he's coach. Then he went for it. You can under coach lees point of view. He train this player, they were one of his best players for what i have heared. But simple coach lee could have offer pump a contract also. But I don't know all the detail of the issue. Just my 2cents Except it's not at a fastfood place... | ||
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PaPhJoRt
Denmark95 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
lololol What I expected from a team with Idra in it) | ||
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Dawski
Canada435 Posts
lets say this is a plumbing company employers name = TSL (Total Sewage Lovers) employees name = PLUMA Plumas situation: went through his entire apprenticeship in one company where they taught him everything he knows about plumbing. This company's situation is where payment is very low and lots of people are quitting like his friend FD (Fast at Drains) and the only ones left are close friends of the owner who are accepting the pay cuts They sent him to plumb some new townhouses that went up in a different location. He did a good job. Competitor company EG (Ecstatic for Gutters) who were also working on some of those townhouses took notice of his fast/low cost/quality work. a foreman for EG walks up to him and says that they will give him a higher wage if he comes work for them (this is how it works in businesses, you expect the foreman to go to Pumas employer and ask if he can have his employee? what do you think we all still own slaves on our cotton fields as well?) Pluma thinks about his situation and agrees that its the best choice and for some reason doesn't tell his boss and doesn't give his two weeks and just shoots off to the next job. Pluma's former boss is angry that his plumbing company is going down the drain and writes on his blog. | ||
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Serene
United States23 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:07 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Not to use a broken, tired out meme, but: Haters gonna' hate. The people who disagree with EG's actions have their minds made up by and large, and nothing can be done to change it. True, many people still haven't taken the time to educate themselves on all of the facts, but the people still railing against it simply fall back onto a cultural argument or something along those lines. Quite frankly, Korea might hold the largest concentration and amount of top-tier players in the world, but the competition outside is budding and growing constantly. Maybe Korea should think about adapting to the world outside, rather than expecting everybody else to cater to their ways. Even with all the facts in I find something nagging at the back of my mind, in regards to the integrity and morality of the way it was approached. This is attributed to the way I was brought up and that won't change. However, I do want to comment on the other part of your statement. Everyone keeps saying that this is just business as usual, no contract no problem. I tend to look at this from a global standpoint and what the implications are. History of businesses going global shows us that neglecting a home country's value and cultural beliefs turns into a disaster. I do agree that there needs to be a give and take between the two cultures. But you cannot go into another country, do business the way you do in your country and assume everything will be okay. Culture plays a key role in business, regardless of what many people keep saying. This is why many businesses use CEO/managers from the home country to run that division and do deals within the country. So I think EG could of used more tact in going into South Korea when acquiring the player, absolutely. I do agree that Korea needs to become a little more open with their ways, but to put the blame on them for not accepting "our" ways and pushing theirs is a little ridiculous. | ||
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Koillette
56 Posts
it is a comparison. | ||
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
it's a terrible comparison. I agree with talking to Lee about it, but Lee wouldn't be able to fund PuMa, Clide and Killer on contracts on better terms then EG could. They're a lesser known team, not many sponsors = not much cash = Clide and Killer giving their earnings back to the Coach so he can keep the team alive. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:25 Itsmedudeman wrote: I was honestly surprised that people on TL didn't blame it on puma as much as EG. In the end, it was puma's decision to take the money over friends/loyalty. Not saying he shouldn't have, fuck I'd probably have taken the offer, but I can't help but people are trying too much to say puma's poor innocent mind was taken advantage of when he's a grown adult. Blame should be placed 50% on EG and 50% on Lee for blowing it out of proportion. Blaming puma for not being "loyal" is just asinine. | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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Koillette
56 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:21 MonkSEA wrote: it's a terrible comparison. I agree with talking to Lee about it, but Lee wouldn't be able to fund PuMa, Clide and Killer on contracts on better terms then EG could. They're a lesser known team, not many sponsors = not much cash = Clide and Killer giving their earnings back to the Coach so he can keep the team alive. I thought i read somewhere that clide and killer gave back some of there contract to the team, so im lost | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
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j3i
United States357 Posts
Well, Coach Lee and TSL provided for all his living and practice conditions for the past 10 months or so. I can only imagine that his decision to join EG with almost no discussion can be considered disrespectful. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
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hmc
495 Posts
Haha, that one is hilarious. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:37 j3i wrote: Well, Coach Lee and TSL provided for all his living and practice conditions for the past 10 months or so. I can only imagine that his decision to join EG with almost no discussion can be considered disrespectful. And puma provided them sponsorship, and a NASL win while under TSL He owes TSL nothing, he paid his worth. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:30 SafeAsCheese wrote: Blame should be placed 50% on EG and 50% on Lee for blowing it out of proportion. Blaming puma for not being "loyal" is just asinine. I don't view this any differently than the lebron fiasco a year ago, except puma did it with more remorse. People have a right to be unhappy with him although it is just an opinion. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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