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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
July 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#21
On July 23 2011 09:06 Lexxes wrote:
Seems like they are not flaming as hard as the foreign scene..


thx alot for translating.


What do you mean? Foreigners are happy that Koreans are joining our teams. Koreans are not.

And from what I read, Koreans are flaming this more than we are.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#22
Thanks for the translations! It's great to be able to see what they are saying over on PlayXP.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
July 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#23
Thanks for the translations UT! It's good to see how other communities responded to this mess.
Thank God and gunrun.
UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
July 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#24
updated with a few more responses. Now I need to teach little Korean basta....i mean kids AMURICAN before I continue so please don't take this as all. There's still about...50 left and then the other article with Coach Lee's interview
Need to write more things...
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 23 2011 00:20 GMT
#25
lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing.

also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros.

Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
July 23 2011 00:20 GMT
#26
A lot of these look like the same reactions on TL. Thanks for the translations though. The koreans probably know more on the situation than most of us do, so it's informative seeing their reactions as well.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
July 23 2011 00:22 GMT
#27
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote:
lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing.

also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros.

Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha

I doubt they knew how much talking to the manager mattered.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:23:04
July 23 2011 00:22 GMT
#28
On July 23 2011 09:10 PhiliBiRD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:06 Lexxes wrote:
Seems like they are not flaming as hard as the foreign scene..


thx alot for translating.


What do you mean? Foreigners are happy that Koreans are joining our teams. Koreans are not.

And from what I read, Koreans are flaming this more than we are.


Wow, where have you been? This is pretty funny unless you're just trolling of course. This is regarding the specific situation of EG's approach to Puma, don't compare it to teams that have actually agreed trades amicably.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 23 2011 00:23 GMT
#29
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote:
lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing.

also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros.

Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha


They mostly bashed Puma for leaving so unprofessionally.

I even think they flamed less that the Tl thread did.(but of course, I doubt we are getting the ruder comments anyways.)

Thanks for the translation. Hopefully you contacted EG before
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 23 2011 00:24 GMT
#30
On July 23 2011 09:22 Full.tilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:10 PhiliBiRD wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:06 Lexxes wrote:
Seems like they are not flaming as hard as the foreign scene..


thx alot for translating.


What do you mean? Foreigners are happy that Koreans are joining our teams. Koreans are not.

And from what I read, Koreans are flaming this more than we are.


Wow, where have you been? This is pretty funny unless you're just trolling of course. This is regarding the specific situation of EG's approach to Puma, don't compare it to teams that have actually agreed trades amicably.


The only people making a big deal are people who have wanted to shit on EG for months but waited for an opportunity.

The whole thing will be forgotten in a week because the SC2 community is so fucking fickle and likes witch hunts.

Most people will enjoy the results of this transaction.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:28:06
July 23 2011 00:24 GMT
#31
On July 23 2011 09:08 unoriginalname wrote:
Oh no, you've translated Korean opinions to English concerning the matter. Alex may come out and accuse you of biased journalism that is threatening EG as you have not asked for a statement from them!

But in all honesty, I see the Korean opinions aren't too dissimilar to the ones expressed on Team Liquid, I think most of the foreign scene seem to think that PuMa is a better player than what the Koreans believe though.


Well considering this isn't a [NEWS] thread and just a thread with translations, I doubt he cares one bit. Just goes to show that Koreans and Foreigners have the same amount of neitzens that are dramatic over news. The only difference is that they seem to care about Coach Lee's feelings more and TL seems to want to bash EG more.

I am happy that this event occurred, hopefully Korean teams will start contracting their players if they want to keep them around. Can't believe how many players have been shifting around in the past few weeks.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#32
well i guess EG probably just lost a lot of respect in Korea. but still, it wasn't as bad as TL.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
July 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#33
On July 23 2011 09:24 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:08 unoriginalname wrote:
Oh no, you've translated Korean opinions to English concerning the matter. Alex may come out and accuse you of biased journalism that is threatening EG as you have not asked for a statement from them!

But in all honesty, I see the Korean opinions aren't too dissimilar to the ones expressed on Team Liquid, I think most of the foreign scene seem to think that PuMa is a better player than what the Koreans believe though.


Well considering this isn't a [NEWS] thread and just a thread with translations, I doubt he cares one bit. Just goes to show that Koreans and Foreigners have the same amount of neitzens that are dramatic over news. The only difference is that they seem to care about Coach Lee's feelings more and TL seems to want to bash EG more.


He seems to be joking. Anyways, I agree on that Tl was more concerned in bashing EG while the koreans seem more concerned in how Puma left and how it affected TSL. I still think we are all being too dramatic about the whole thing.

It was still a douchey move by EG, but by no means this is as bad as people are making it seem
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 23 2011 00:27 GMT
#34
Man, I feel bad for Puma. So much hate. I understand that Koreans are upset but saying this mentality will lead to match fixing? WHAT?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 23 2011 00:29 GMT
#35
That mob-mentality is pretty scary..
UTL_Unlimited
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Korea (South)353 Posts
July 23 2011 00:29 GMT
#36
On July 23 2011 09:23 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote:
lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing.

also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros.

Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha


They mostly bashed Puma for leaving so unprofessionally.

I even think they flamed less that the Tl thread did.(but of course, I doubt we are getting the ruder comments anyways.)

Thanks for the translation. Hopefully you contacted EG before


The only ones I didn't translate were the one liners like: EG BAD!!! or PUMA BAD!! (which so far have been....3)
So yes you are getting the ruder comments and the better comments.

And shit I better write a formal letter with a 50 page description of why I've translated this with a public apology done while I am wearing a Sherlock Holmes hat and bowing to Alex Garfield since I'm apparently doing journalism and I need to get both sides of the stories. After all, since we have the foreigner perspective, we TOTALLY don't need to Korean side...Since when has the Korean opinions ever been another SIDE to the issue?
(lol j/k I felt like I needed to make at least 1 troll post in my teamliquid life :3)
Need to write more things...
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 00:36:42
July 23 2011 00:35 GMT
#37
On July 23 2011 09:22 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote:
lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing.

also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros.

Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha

I doubt they knew how much talking to the manager mattered.

They definitely knew. The difference between talking to a manager and talking to the actual player is huge. They talk to the manager, and the whole team discusses it.

It would force puma to think of how his actions affected others before he thought about the benefits. Also killer and clide were apparently approached similarly (and turned the offers down), and if Puma was to hear that before making up his mind, he would realize how selfish his choice was.

I'm not completely against Puma, since i understand that he wants to be making more money and gaining more respect, but no one can deny it's a selfish decision at a dire time for TSL. I also had no clue how much of themselves the players and coach put into TSL until i read his interview, but my bet is that Puma knew exactly how much support he'd received.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 23 2011 00:39 GMT
#38
On July 23 2011 09:35 SxYSpAz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 09:22 Serpico wrote:
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote:
lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing.

also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros.

Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha

I doubt they knew how much talking to the manager mattered.

They definitely knew. The difference between talking to a manager and talking to the actual player is huge. They talk to the manager, and the whole team discusses it.

It would force puma to think of how his actions affected others before he thought about the benefits. Also killer and clide were apparently approached similarly (and turned the offers down), and if Puma was to hear that before making up his mind, he would realize how selfish his choice was.

I'm not completely against Puma, since i understand that he wants to be making more money and gaining more respect, but no one can deny it's a selfish decision at a dire time for TSL. I also had no clue how much of themselves the players and coach put into TSL until i read his interview, but my bet is that Puma knew exactly how much support he'd received.


But that's not really what they said on weapons of choice though.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
July 23 2011 00:40 GMT
#39
If you replace the name Idra with Alex you have almost the exact same general response as the foreigner response
LeakyBucket
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada76 Posts
July 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#40
This is such a sticky situation, it seems like everyone is at fault here.

1. EG went straight to the player without contacting the team. I find this to be devious and not really professional for a major business.

2. Puma did not talk with his coach until the deal was (for the most part) already complete. I do believe that some fault lies in Puma's immaturity and therefore I give him a little slack because that is a difficult and stressful situation for any young player.

3. What the heck was Coach Lee doing not having players on a contract in the first place!? I object to this the most because relying on trust with players seems absurd. I'm not trying to say the players are all backstabbers but it's just common business knowledge to have contracts to avoid sticky situations. I think this would have been easily avoided by having contracts in the first place.
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