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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:06 Lexxes wrote: Seems like they are not flaming as hard as the foreign scene.. thx alot for translating. What do you mean? Foreigners are happy that Koreans are joining our teams. Koreans are not. And from what I read, Koreans are flaming this more than we are. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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UTL_Unlimited
Korea (South)353 Posts
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros. Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote: lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing. also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros. Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha I doubt they knew how much talking to the manager mattered. | ||
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Full.tilt
United Kingdom1709 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:10 PhiliBiRD wrote: What do you mean? Foreigners are happy that Koreans are joining our teams. Koreans are not. And from what I read, Koreans are flaming this more than we are. Wow, where have you been? This is pretty funny unless you're just trolling of course. This is regarding the specific situation of EG's approach to Puma, don't compare it to teams that have actually agreed trades amicably. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:20 SxYSpAz wrote: lol. so overall bad. can't say that EG deserves any less. After hearing their side, i understand a little more, but they should have just talked to the coach. they knew what they were doing. also impressed by koreans emoticons. damn, they iz pros. Also, translate our reaction to playxp :D haha They mostly bashed Puma for leaving so unprofessionally. I even think they flamed less that the Tl thread did.(but of course, I doubt we are getting the ruder comments anyways.) Thanks for the translation. Hopefully you contacted EG before | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:22 Full.tilt wrote: Wow, where have you been? This is pretty funny unless you're just trolling of course. This is regarding the specific situation of EG's approach to Puma, don't compare it to teams that have actually agreed trades amicably. The only people making a big deal are people who have wanted to shit on EG for months but waited for an opportunity. The whole thing will be forgotten in a week because the SC2 community is so fucking fickle and likes witch hunts. Most people will enjoy the results of this transaction. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:08 unoriginalname wrote: Oh no, you've translated Korean opinions to English concerning the matter. Alex may come out and accuse you of biased journalism that is threatening EG as you have not asked for a statement from them! But in all honesty, I see the Korean opinions aren't too dissimilar to the ones expressed on Team Liquid, I think most of the foreign scene seem to think that PuMa is a better player than what the Koreans believe though. Well considering this isn't a [NEWS] thread and just a thread with translations, I doubt he cares one bit. Just goes to show that Koreans and Foreigners have the same amount of neitzens that are dramatic over news. The only difference is that they seem to care about Coach Lee's feelings more and TL seems to want to bash EG more. I am happy that this event occurred, hopefully Korean teams will start contracting their players if they want to keep them around. Can't believe how many players have been shifting around in the past few weeks. | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:24 Demonace34 wrote: Well considering this isn't a [NEWS] thread and just a thread with translations, I doubt he cares one bit. Just goes to show that Koreans and Foreigners have the same amount of neitzens that are dramatic over news. The only difference is that they seem to care about Coach Lee's feelings more and TL seems to want to bash EG more. He seems to be joking. Anyways, I agree on that Tl was more concerned in bashing EG while the koreans seem more concerned in how Puma left and how it affected TSL. I still think we are all being too dramatic about the whole thing. It was still a douchey move by EG, but by no means this is as bad as people are making it seem | ||
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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UTL_Unlimited
Korea (South)353 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:23 windsupernova wrote: They mostly bashed Puma for leaving so unprofessionally. I even think they flamed less that the Tl thread did.(but of course, I doubt we are getting the ruder comments anyways.) Thanks for the translation. Hopefully you contacted EG before The only ones I didn't translate were the one liners like: EG BAD!!! or PUMA BAD!! (which so far have been....3) So yes you are getting the ruder comments and the better comments. And shit I better write a formal letter with a 50 page description of why I've translated this with a public apology done while I am wearing a Sherlock Holmes hat and bowing to Alex Garfield since I'm apparently doing journalism and I need to get both sides of the stories. After all, since we have the foreigner perspective, we TOTALLY don't need to Korean side...Since when has the Korean opinions ever been another SIDE to the issue? (lol j/k I felt like I needed to make at least 1 troll post in my teamliquid life :3) | ||
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:22 Serpico wrote: I doubt they knew how much talking to the manager mattered. They definitely knew. The difference between talking to a manager and talking to the actual player is huge. They talk to the manager, and the whole team discusses it. It would force puma to think of how his actions affected others before he thought about the benefits. Also killer and clide were apparently approached similarly (and turned the offers down), and if Puma was to hear that before making up his mind, he would realize how selfish his choice was. I'm not completely against Puma, since i understand that he wants to be making more money and gaining more respect, but no one can deny it's a selfish decision at a dire time for TSL. I also had no clue how much of themselves the players and coach put into TSL until i read his interview, but my bet is that Puma knew exactly how much support he'd received. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On July 23 2011 09:35 SxYSpAz wrote: They definitely knew. The difference between talking to a manager and talking to the actual player is huge. They talk to the manager, and the whole team discusses it. It would force puma to think of how his actions affected others before he thought about the benefits. Also killer and clide were apparently approached similarly (and turned the offers down), and if Puma was to hear that before making up his mind, he would realize how selfish his choice was. I'm not completely against Puma, since i understand that he wants to be making more money and gaining more respect, but no one can deny it's a selfish decision at a dire time for TSL. I also had no clue how much of themselves the players and coach put into TSL until i read his interview, but my bet is that Puma knew exactly how much support he'd received. But that's not really what they said on weapons of choice though. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
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LeakyBucket
Canada76 Posts
1. EG went straight to the player without contacting the team. I find this to be devious and not really professional for a major business. 2. Puma did not talk with his coach until the deal was (for the most part) already complete. I do believe that some fault lies in Puma's immaturity and therefore I give him a little slack because that is a difficult and stressful situation for any young player. 3. What the heck was Coach Lee doing not having players on a contract in the first place!? I object to this the most because relying on trust with players seems absurd. I'm not trying to say the players are all backstabbers but it's just common business knowledge to have contracts to avoid sticky situations. I think this would have been easily avoided by having contracts in the first place. | ||
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