Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 199

On July 22 2011 03:25 RusHXceL wrote:
I wonder which Korean players EG approached to. I would lol if it was oGsMC

On July 22 2011 03:23 nvs. wrote:


What the fuck. Trying to poach Sen and such too?? O_o

On July 22 2011 03:21 JWD wrote:

That certainly seems to be the implication of his first paragraph. If this is the case I can only say that I am surprised TSL would hang the security of its business venture on expectations (however strong) that players will always shy away from attractive offers purely because of an unwritten ethical code.

On July 22 2011 03:22 Soap wrote:


So the korean SC2 scene is being run by amateurs, no wonder it isn't exactly thriving.

On July 22 2011 03:24 JiYan wrote:

lebron was a free agent, puma was not.

On July 22 2011 03:27 FairForever wrote:


Need a link for this.

Also by the way, because this isn't a professionally run league, there is nothing illegal with EG approaching players and convincing them to join EG, provided that they convinced them to join EG after their contracts elapsed. Without evidence I can't really fault EG, I'm not a big fan of their team but I don't see what is so wrong here, the blame lies with TSL for not locking up core players.

On July 21 2011 16:49 Xeris wrote:
Alex Garfield of EG talked to a lot of players at NASL, he approached Sen for example. I don't think it's particularly wrong for a conversation to take place, especially when you're at an event and just socializing with people... but it's more about actually putting a deal in place without going through the proper channels that it becomes wrong in my opinion.

For example, I have no problem talking to players (let's say DIMAGA) and saying "hey I'm wondering if you'd be interested in joining Fnatic." But knowing that he's a player on a team, that's really where the conversation needs to end. Anything further becomes a disrespect to the actual team and the whole idea of esports.

On July 22 2011 03:21 Grimsong wrote:


Hold on here. You're wrong. Here's why.

Rudy Fernandez is a professional basketball player. (Puma is a SC2 pro SC2 player)

He plays within the league, the NBA (Currently there is no equivalent to the NBA in SC2. But in a sense, you could say that Korea is a league. and North America is a league. Lets say that. I like it as an analogy.)

While Rudy Fernandez is being contracted within the NBA, Rudy Fernandez (While Puma was playing with TSL. We dont know 100% whether he is contracted or not, and even if he is, we dont know that the contract has the wording involved to legally stop something like this from happening, in Korea) was offered a contract from a team in Spain (a team that exists outside of the league, the NBA. EG, a team that exists outside of Korea).

The NBA did not fine, or go after, or threaten, the Spanish club that was offering Rudy a contract. Why? Because they aren't a part of their association. They can't pursue anything, realistically, because they aren't affiliated. The league cant impose any infractions because they are not related or under the same rules and regulations. Rudy signing a contract with Spain to play Basketball is equivalent to Rudy signing a contract with South Africa to go Alligator Hunting. It's his choice. He can do whatever he wants while still honoring his contract. If he chose to play in Spain, he would have to work out with his current team (Dallas Mavericks. TSL) how to work out the contract.

Whether it's them essentially waiving his contract (what TSL did to Puma, oh hello analogy), or sitting on it as it will be valid if he ever tries to re-enter the league, the NBA (whatever wording that contract he may have with TSL would be valid because he'd be re-entering that league,perse). That would have been up to Dallas/Rudy to sort out. But Spain had every right to offer the contract without asking Mark Cuban (the owner of the Dallas team) if he'd be ok with it.

And guess what? No one in the NBA gave a damn about it because this is a common occurence in the league.

On July 22 2011 03:25 Liudo wrote:
But you should bear in mind that just because nothing was written on paper did not mean that Puma and TSL did not have an understanding. Clearly they did have an understanding, because TSL provided shelter and food for Puma and Puma played under the TSL game-tag.

On July 22 2011 03:28 jiveturkey wrote:
So i see that the rumors about the TL community are indeed true. Mad about everything, drama queens, and plenty of white knighting. I now understand why everyone tells me to stay away from here.

On July 22 2011 03:27 Jibba wrote:

Seriously, what were they thinking. >.>

Even if they didn't pay Puma, providing food/housing/etc. is a basis for creating a contract. Even without NCC and all that other stuff, if they exists they could still seek damages. It's just so bizarre that they wouldn't have him sign anything in order to join the house.

On July 22 2011 03:27 FairForever wrote:


Need a link for this.

Also by the way, because this isn't a professionally run league, there is nothing illegal with EG approaching players and convincing them to join EG, provided that they convinced them to join EG after their contracts elapsed. Without evidence I can't really fault EG, I'm not a big fan of their team but I don't see what is so wrong here, the blame lies with TSL for not locking up core players.