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sCnDiamond
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany340 Posts
July 21 2011 11:09 GMT
#41
On July 21 2011 18:43 Samro225am wrote:
I hope for tournament organizers to look more for custom maps, whoever made them, as long as players get a chance to play new and maybe also more interesting maps.

Blizzard looking at GSL and taking Taldarim shows that it is a slow process, but in the long run Blizzard should be interested in an active mapping community and smaller tournaments, too.
I feel like this is the real sticking point. Most tournaments don't just host Xel'Naga Caverns and Shakuras. They basically take the blizzard map pool, remove the worst maps (Delta Quadrant, Slag Pits, Backwater, ...), replace others with versions without certain balance issues (Metalopolis, Shattered) and complement it with some GSL maps. But in the end the vast majority of tournaments takes Blizzard's map pool into account. And personally i think this a mistake, because it doesn't encourage them to change anything. The only major tournament that strays away from it is gsl, and therefore it is the tournament that defines those "complementary maps".

On the one hand, there's a lot of complaints about blizzard's maps, but on the other hand most tourneys stick to them. I'm not sure if it's due to tourneys not knowing any real alternatives, trying to stick to the maps the pros already know or just plain laziness. It reminds me of a smoker trying to quit. He knows it's bad, but on the other hand he just can't stay off it.

I'm pretty sure that Blizzard won't change their attitude in terms of maps unless a lot of (major!) tournaments ignore their map pool altogether. The less Blizzard maps we see on the big screen, the more likely Blizzard will have to change. Sure GSL does it, but most western ones just don't and miss on a great opportunity to stick out. They just carry over some by GSL instead of try to establish their own by picking themselves which ones are good. Personally, my favourite tournament at the moment is map of the month. Not due to superior play, but because i'm guaranteed to see something new every month as a viewer.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
July 21 2011 11:11 GMT
#42
Welcome! The maps look good, still a little rough around the edges though. I am excited to try these out when I get a chance.
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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 21 2011 11:12 GMT
#43
These are amazing! Can't wait to try them.
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 11:55:38
July 21 2011 11:44 GMT
#44
i am not quite that negative about the topic. i do think that blizzards listens, they just have a much larger audience, other than just the esports community, which they need to statisfy.

however, they have given us all the tools neccesary to make all the maps we want. so i think the responsibility lies within our community to use them properly

and i think tournaments should learn from the gstl/gsl. look at how excited everyone was when they started introducing new maps. i, for one, was buying hq passes because of it.
and i think any other tournament like mlg, nasl, dreamhack, etc. could be taking advantage of this, too.
they need to make the tournaments not only attractive for the players, but even more so for the viewers. which again will make them more interesting for sponsors, too.
with the large amount of tournaments using the same map pools over and over again, this is a great opportunity to stand out. and looking at all the whining about map pools i think there is still a big demand for new maps.

anyway, i think i am repeating myself, but you get the point
Map of the Month | The Planetary Workshop | SC2Melee.net
NullCurrent
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 21 2011 14:06 GMT
#45
On July 21 2011 20:11 TheAmazombie wrote:
Welcome! The maps look good, still a little rough around the edges though. I am excited to try these out when I get a chance.

Could you elaborate a bit? Feedback is very important to us, and if you think something is wrong, start a dialogue with us and we will try to fix it
The Planetary Workshop - TPW - Mapmaking Team
sLBraemar
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada285 Posts
July 21 2011 14:30 GMT
#46
These maps look pretty cool! Just an idea, but you should try to host a clan league with a small prize pool (I would donate some money and I am sure others would) using these maps, that would be cool! I really love clan leagues opposed to individual leagues, as a spectator anyways!
Don't wait for an opportunity to come to you, create your own.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 21 2011 14:34 GMT
#47
Great maps, can't wait to see future projects. Good luck.
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IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
July 21 2011 15:08 GMT
#48
On July 21 2011 23:30 BionicSC wrote:
These maps look pretty cool! Just an idea, but you should try to host a clan league with a small prize pool (I would donate some money and I am sure others would) using these maps, that would be cool! I really love clan leagues opposed to individual leagues, as a spectator anyways!


I am going to try and get Clan RH (diamonds/masters) to do this on NA soon
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
CptObv1ous
Profile Joined March 2011
Luxembourg90 Posts
July 21 2011 15:13 GMT
#49
coming back from playing on monsoon valley, one must fall and void rift, Im absolutely astonished, I really really enjoy these maps. Amazing =D
lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
July 21 2011 15:22 GMT
#50
share some replays
Map of the Month | The Planetary Workshop | SC2Melee.net
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
July 21 2011 19:32 GMT
#51
took you guys long enough :D go big!
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
July 21 2011 19:35 GMT
#52
For anyone interested in using TPW maps in their tournaments and/or events, or if anyone would like to feature us on a website, we are proud to present to you our small TPW banner/affiliation...

[image loading]

Just drop us a note if you plan on using it ^^

<3 you prodig
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
Kgst
Profile Joined July 2010
United States45 Posts
July 21 2011 19:48 GMT
#53
It would be nice to see a few creative, unique maps, bel beach style, solid looking maps but also pretty standard looking.
NullCurrent
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 21 2011 21:05 GMT
#54
On July 22 2011 04:48 Kgst wrote:
It would be nice to see a few creative, unique maps, bel beach style, solid looking maps but also pretty standard looking.


Just take a look inside the nested spoilers under "TPW Map Pool"

Or visit www.theplanetaryworkshop.com for detailed shots of the maps
The Planetary Workshop - TPW - Mapmaking Team
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 20:03:44
July 22 2011 20:03 GMT
#55
Because I love it

[image loading]

Wearing it to work tonight!!
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Kgst
Profile Joined July 2010
United States45 Posts
July 23 2011 08:15 GMT
#56
actually Monsoon Valley looks pretty awesome
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
July 23 2011 08:47 GMT
#57
- Huge Thumbs of Approval.

The maps look amazing. I'd like to wish you guys the absolutely very best of luck with the team, with future map making AND getting your maps approved by bigger organisations. You can do it!
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FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
July 23 2011 08:58 GMT
#58
See you guys Sunday :D
good luck have batman
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
July 23 2011 09:02 GMT
#59
I'm really excited to hear about this, and I really like the maps. Especially Void Rift appeals to me, I can't wait to see how games play out on there. I'll see if I can arrange to be online during one of your meetup times!
The frumious Bandersnatch
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
July 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#60
We are doing everything we can to get involved! We highly appreciate and are grateful for your support - it only encourages to keep going!
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
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