• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:47
CET 05:47
KST 13:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
decsec.net | Sell %100 Inbox Smtp - Unlimited Smtp Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1936 users

[Poll] NASL Premium - Season 2 polls - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 16 Next All
cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
July 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#201
waste of money got it for the vods and then found that they were only in 1080p making them unwatchable due to my internet speed.
ZvP imbalanced blizzards solution nerf terran
R4iD
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
July 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#202
there was just so many games every single day that i didnt even bother to follow it at all. no offense to the casters as well but, there is some magic missing. i dont know if day9 or the casting archon sells this "magic" in a can but if so id buy a case or two to last you for next NASL season.
your either pro or your noob, and thats life
rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
July 12 2011 08:13 GMT
#203
to me nasl just is not on the same level as the gsl in terms of entertainment value, and i just dont have enough time to watch both, that said i did really enjoy the nasl finals
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 08:17:01
July 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#204
I bought a ticket for season 1, and enjoyed it simply because I love watching high level starcraft 2. I didn't watch a LOT of the regular season, it didn't interest me as much as other tournaments, but if there was a matchup I was interested in i'd tune in.
I absolutely loved the finals though, the vods for those were worth it alone for an Australian who couldn't watch it all live. The atmosphere and casting was outstanding.

Casting wasn't amazing during the regular season, but in the finals they all stepped up including gretorp.

I'll probably get the next season as well.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
July 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#205
No AND I did not buy Season 1 60%


Seriously what are so many people doing here on this site.
Do you really want sc2 to be big? Do you really have a warm heart for your hobby?

A new alternative to make e-sports bigger in the west, an insane amount of games for less money then 2 movies...
Superb games in the finals.

Yes they've had start up problems but they can only improve. All in all there was so much quality content.
I'm quite sad to see such a high percentage didn't pay for this.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
July 12 2011 08:29 GMT
#206
On July 12 2011 15:11 Slaptoast wrote:
I'll stick to GSL and GSTL. I only watched a few matched from the regular season, and was not impressed with gretorp or incontrols casting.

The finals were pretty good. I'm glad they brought in tasteless and artosis. Some of issues they had made me lose faith in the organization as a whole. From what I understand (thanks to my audio engineer friends who watched too) the people in charge of sound were making mistakes that even unpaid interns would never make. The set design and the graphics are pretty shoddy as well, I can spot photoshop filters and effects that I wouldn't forgive my little brother for using nevermind someone getting paid.

Either at the start of the season they picked their jobs from a hat or someone hired their family and friends. This is why I don't buy that things will improve over time.



Yeah i agree.The staffs organizing is a joke.
hi
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 12 2011 08:34 GMT
#207
I'll pass. The only reason I pay for GSL is because I can't always be awake for the games. NASL is right in primetime for me so I'll just stick with the free stream.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
July 12 2011 08:46 GMT
#208
I watched alot of nasl. Most days there was at least one game or player I wanted to watch and NASL did not dissapoint. Production wasnt gsl level but there were some high quality games played every week and if they had a better vod system or at least a sample of some of the better games im sure NASL would be able to sell more tickets.
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
July 12 2011 08:55 GMT
#209
On July 12 2011 17:19 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
No AND I did not buy Season 1 60%


Seriously what are so many people doing here on this site.
Do you really want sc2 to be big? Do you really have a warm heart for your hobby?

A new alternative to make e-sports bigger in the west, an insane amount of games for less money then 2 movies...
Superb games in the finals.

Yes they've had start up problems but they can only improve. All in all there was so much quality content.
I'm quite sad to see such a high percentage didn't pay for this.


Wanting e-sports to grow doesn't mean blindly supporting anything related to e-sports, no matter how bad it is and how bad it makes e-sports look.

You really think people who never seen an e-sports event but tuned into MLG Dallas or Nasl to give it a short would leave with a positive opinion of esports?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
July 12 2011 08:55 GMT
#210
On July 12 2011 17:19 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
No AND I did not buy Season 1 60%


Seriously what are so many people doing here on this site.
Do you really want sc2 to be big? Do you really have a warm heart for your hobby?

A new alternative to make e-sports bigger in the west, an insane amount of games for less money then 2 movies...
Superb games in the finals.

Yes they've had start up problems but they can only improve. All in all there was so much quality content.
I'm quite sad to see such a high percentage didn't pay for this.

Sorry but that isent any doing of NASL that the finals was great, could be any other tournement where you would have had them. Im not going to throw 20$ again at a tournement which cant get a proper vod format working(Sorry but 1080p vods only and not even being split up is just failure in so many ways).

As for startup problems. They showed consistantly thoughout the 3 months and not just the finals. So these startup problems shouldnt have occured at the final event, yet they did....
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 12 2011 08:56 GMT
#211
On July 12 2011 17:19 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
No AND I did not buy Season 1 60%


Seriously what are so many people doing here on this site.
Do you really want sc2 to be big? Do you really have a warm heart for your hobby?

A new alternative to make e-sports bigger in the west, an insane amount of games for less money then 2 movies...
Superb games in the finals.

Yes they've had start up problems but they can only improve. All in all there was so much quality content.
I'm quite sad to see such a high percentage didn't pay for this.

Bad products don't help esports.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
July 12 2011 09:15 GMT
#212
On July 12 2011 17:19 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
No AND I did not buy Season 1 60%


Seriously what are so many people doing here on this site.
Do you really want sc2 to be big? Do you really have a warm heart for your hobby?

A new alternative to make e-sports bigger in the west, an insane amount of games for less money then 2 movies...
Superb games in the finals.

Yes they've had start up problems but they can only improve. All in all there was so much quality content.
I'm quite sad to see such a high percentage didn't pay for this.


I'd pay when they hire professional people to organize their stuff. At the moment they just have a bunch of amateur people who failed at everything. Luckily for them the matches were great and saved them.
Also the games are not live, and I'm never gonna pay to watch replays/ recorded broadcasts.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
July 12 2011 09:36 GMT
#213
I liked it (and did not purchase it).

The thing is, i mainly run Streams on my second Screen and play/surf on my first... So often SC2 Casts are just "background" for me and that someone talks is more important than the quality of the Stream.

I from time to time buy passes for special events and will probably do that again, for a whole season? Not really. To be honest... Many of the players that interest me are also participating in other cups that deliver good quality for free (NASL freestream is also pretty ok).
If i want to see Koreans i would buy a GSL pass, so thats not a real argument to purchase NASL...

I just don't have a real reason to buy it atm. I'm happy with the quality and 90% of the time not paying full attention anyway.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 12 2011 09:38 GMT
#214
I didn't buy, and won't buy due to my money problems, but I will continue to watch and support NASL. Really great league, keep it up fellows
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 12 2011 09:51 GMT
#215
On July 12 2011 17:19 Zandar wrote:
Show nested quote +
No AND I did not buy Season 1 60%


Seriously what are so many people doing here on this site.
Do you really want sc2 to be big? Do you really have a warm heart for your hobby?

A new alternative to make e-sports bigger in the west, an insane amount of games for less money then 2 movies...
Superb games in the finals.

Yes they've had start up problems but they can only improve. All in all there was so much quality content.
I'm quite sad to see such a high percentage didn't pay for this.


I bet the numbers are similar for GSL man, I'd guess less than half of the people on this site pay for GSL season passes. 40% of the entirety of TL would be a ton of subscribers, but of course, it's probably a lot less than that.

The difference is, with GSL, almost everyone who has bought a pass before will say they'd definitely buy again.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Popss
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden176 Posts
July 12 2011 10:10 GMT
#216
Pretty sure the competition from GSL will kill NASL.

GSL basically offers great production, players, stream and fastest VODs you could ask for while NASL has low production, worse players, tons of technical issues during S1 and slow uploading of VODs.

And personally I can't stand Gretorp either.

Murdering them here but I'm sorry paying for both tournaments is simply to pricy and S1 was very disappointing for me.

Don't overreact if NASL dies though as this is simply the reality of selling any kind of product. If you can't stay ahead or atleast even with your competition you won't be able to stay alive.
shavi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States127 Posts
July 12 2011 10:21 GMT
#217
The biggest problem I had, being someone who had a pass, was the vods took waaay to long to come out and be organized. Sure, I could have the VOD of the whole like 4-5 hour thing each night, but I just wanted to watch specific games (recommended games), I had to go through hours of vods just to get to the games I wanted. It takes less time for teamsp00ky / iplaywinner to release vods of FGTs. :/
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 12 2011 10:25 GMT
#218
I bought season 1 to support incontrol because he's awesome.
Did NOT enjoy NASL primarily because the level of casting is not on par with gsl.
Gretorp in particular is very aggravating to watch/listen to.
I hope they get someone else as the primary caster.
moo...for DRG
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
July 12 2011 10:39 GMT
#219
On July 12 2011 17:12 R4iD wrote:
there was just so many games every single day that i didnt even bother to follow it at all. no offense to the casters as well but, there is some magic missing. i dont know if day9 or the casting archon sells this "magic" in a can but if so id buy a case or two to last you for next NASL season.


i felt this way as well. having to study and having a part-time job and other interests really cuts down on my SC2 time. GSL is usually enough for me (and i cant even keep up with every match in that...tend to only watch players i care about). NASL seems to have an overwhelming amount of games, which is great for some fans but not for me. I was only interested in the finals weekend, which i watched live (had so many audio problems lol). anyways i hope NASL improves for all the hardcore fans out there, but GSL + the occasional Dreamhack/MLG weekend is enough for me
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
July 12 2011 11:01 GMT
#220
I bought a pass for season one, but won't be purchasing one for the second season.

The format doesn't work for me. I know they want to do something different with 'seasons,' but it's just too damn long for me. After the first three or four weeks, I started caring less and less and was only keeping up on the results towards the end.

Also, since so much emphasis is supposed to be on this season format, why is there a spot reserved in the final playoffs for someone that didn't even participate in it? Hold an open tournament for a slot in the main groups before the season starts. Make everyone participate in the same way and don't add people before the playoffs. It's like if Major League Baseball saved a spot in their playoffs for a random team that won a seperate tournament like Japan Series (only open, but you can see what I mean). It doesn't make sense to me.

Those format issues and the fact that the majority of the games are played online and not live just make the whole regular season seem unappealing to me.

I have the same issue with VODs that many others have and share feelings about the poor production quality compared to other tournaments.

I'd pay $5 for a pass to watch the finals in better quality and access to playoff VODs, but the regular season format issues makes me not want to buy the full season pass. There is too much Starcraft for me to watch and I'm going to stick with GOM TV for my subscription money and likely buy passes for MLG and other weekend tournaments if I'm available that weekend. GOM is just on another level right now.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft437
RuFF_SC2 230
ProTech160
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22056
EffOrt 162
Leta 96
JulyZerg 75
ZergMaN 43
Shine 33
Bale 28
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever418
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 887
Other Games
XaKoH 96
KawaiiRice5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick454
BasetradeTV66
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
12h 13m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
19h 13m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.