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EDIT: For those reading this now, I recently installed WoWTunnels and it made a huge difference. I recommend trying them out on their free 30 days. Please note I am not advertising for WoWTunnels, they're just the ones I was recommended to! There are others to try too.
Hi guys,
I play SC2 from Australia. I have two SEA accounts, and access to a KR account. I play on three out of four regions that SC2 is available in, SEA, NA, and KR.
According to a tracert to the logon servers, my latency to the various servers at the moment is -
NA - ~230ms
SEA - ~210ms
KR - ~170ms
EU - ~350ms
When I ask some of my NA friends to do the same test, they get BELOW 50ms in all cases, and one of them actually has pings lower than 20 on occasion to NA.
Obviously their latency to SEA and KR is pretty poor.
My question to the Australian players is - How do you deal with this?
For normal play, its fine. Its noticeable, but not an impediment when doing things like macroing.
However, recently I've been incorporating more blink stalker play into my games, and it has made me painfully aware that this is actually a significant handicap. I've tried playing around with some blink builds in singleplayer vs AI mode (so, without latency) and the difference in my relative blink micro ability is astounding, it is 2-3x better and quicker than when I try to do it on the live servers.
Is there any way around this? Is there any way to reduce my ping to ANY of the servers? As I said, I have access to all three realms (two SEA accounts, which have obviously two NA accounts also linked, and I have the KR account too), and if anyone has had any success reducing their latency to somewhere around the 100ms or lower mark, I would love to hear your secrets.
For reference, I am on the West Coast of Australia, I beleive the East Coast gets slightly better pings to the SEA servers?
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Doesn't have battle.net have forced lag for everyone of like 200ms? It's 150ms at least.
Your latency shouldn't give you a disadvantage. We all play with that lag and the built in bnet latency is one of the biggest reason why people wish for lan.
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All I know is when I watch streams, their units seem to respond much more rapidly to every command issued than they do when I play  Maybe it is my imagination.
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Enjoy the sexy weather and beaches. The hell you doing indoors.
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I have 180 avg latency on SEA, NA, and KR servers.
which is fine and absolutely playable, you cant even notice a delay with this ping unless u play single player offline and realise the slight difference.
but there is probably little chance you are ever gonna get much lower than that anyways.
i have heard people talking about some sort of "tunneling" programs u can use to reduce latency but i have no idea what that is personally so perhaps ask around or try searching around for that online and it may help you out since anything over 200 is clearly unplayable for anyone.
goodluck hope i helped
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I am just so use to playing with lag. Once I tried playing vs AI in the single player option, the instant reaction feels so good, but alas will never have it in MP..
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I barely even notice it on NA or SEA.
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It really depends in your internet provider and where you live. I get no lag in KR or NA. EU is the only problem.
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To answer your question though, I don't think there's anything you can actually do about it.
The connection from australia just isn't ideal...it's just a physical limitation.
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Thanks to Optus which owned By SingTel (Singapore Telecom) my ping to SEA (Server in Singapore) or Korea is 400ms >< got it routed thru US and then comes back to SEA ..insane :p
Ping to US howerver is 179.. need to switch to Telstra or really to move to the fuck out of here.. 
Sub 200ms is very playable I find
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For all Australians out there: DO NOT USE OPTUS THEY ARE TEH BAD.
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The lag is there and yeah it makes good micro too hard.
It even annoys me when you call down a mule, you know you call down mules and spam the calldown until the icon goes dim? well with the lag, it doesn't go dim straight away so I give more than one mule call-down when only one was available. Or I give one and move on then I'm like, hey, there is another? but there isn't. All the crisp instant feedback of placing a building, etc, is gone, so you simply have to spam commands more which lowers your effective APM
Stuff like un-siege and move becomes more of a pain as well, you have to slow down and be much more careful lest the move command is ignored.
Selecting units and pulling them back when injured is harder, as well as those little 4 man micro wars you get at minute 6 when putting or getting pressured.
At this point I'd like to play KR because 170 has to feel a bit better at least
I think the relative lack of popularity for sc2 in australia might be partly the lag. No kidding. Bronze/silver/gold might not notice it but when you get to diamond plus, and start noticing the little details in masters and GM matches, it becomes really annoying. Why ladder and train on NA with the dream of one day knocking on the door of GM, if you know you're stuck with this micro disadvantage vs nearly everyone.
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^ haha at hard times like these think of Moonglade!
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Don't play vs AI then, if you get used to having no lag then you play with 200ms it's pretty terrible, I'm with Optus, so I get like 400ms on Sea and still managed to get top 30 GM, although I barely play on sea cause 400ms is terrible. 200ms is fine for me, obviously it'd be great to have no lag, but after a while you get used to it. Look at it this way, the Koreans have to play on the NA server for the TL open tournaments and they pretty much all get top 5 and they're playing with terrible lag, as long as you get used to it, it's not that bad.
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I play on NA now, I don't know what my latency is, but I know that I never lag.
When I do d/c, the modem dies or something
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Whats the latency from Korean to NA ?
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Honestly although I know that its there my brain and muscles have learned with the lag between click or button press and the reaction on the game and so I naturally compensate for it. I notice how big a difference it is when I play the AI (offline) and I actually have trouble timing my clicks.
A good example is that when i send a worker to build something instead of waiting for him to return his minerals I send him half a second or so before he returns and the lag makes him go off to build after he has returned.
Sometimes i do wish that my force fields would go down faster. But those situations are rare and I make up for it with safer play styles that rely less on 100% accurate FFs.
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You get used to it...this might sound hilarious but playing WoW at a top level completely adjusted me to a latency of ~250ms. Knowing and becoming comfortable with the delay is the only way to get the most out of your play when you're at a disadvantage in lag. I wish Blizzard would just open local servers, seriously, it's not like they don't have all the money in the world.
Also, the FPS scene in Australia is so huge in comparison to other games primarily of the server location. There was an absolute ton of activity in the competitive CoD4 scene back when I was involved. I'm so sick and tired of the lack of local servers, Australia isn't some third world country T_T
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On July 03 2011 16:24 ZiegFeld wrote:
Enjoy the sexy weather and beaches. The hell you doing indoors.
LOOL!
true! dont play games, just go meet some chicks on da beach
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i hate the latency in all games
so many games i'd love to play but i cannot stand playing anything action/timing orientated with 200ms ping
starcraft isn't so bad. similar to dota/hon/lol i can stand it at 200ms. but 300ms i want to punch a baby in the face. it's funny how only 100ms can make such a huge difference. just wish i could play at 50ms.
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