EPT[NASL] aLive Replaces Strelok at Grand Finals - Page 14
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
"nasl is unprofessional" "killing esports" "xeris is unprofessional, nasl has a bad business model" "why wasnt naniwa invited, this is bullshit" "lets make a poll to decide. majority rules!" And no one reads, how typical. | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:13 crms wrote: how do you justify the loser of 1 tournament is more deserving of an open spot then the next highest ranked person in the league? NASL shocks me once again. I don't understand how a league with so much money behind it can be so damn amateur. The guy fronting the money must be mega wealthy and just not give a shit how/who is running the show, he just wants to watch starcraft. No. If you used your brain you would realize that Alive deserves this spot much more than any of the other players. I don't even like Alive but the rules are fair and have been there for the entire season anyway. If you want to be pissed at anyone you should be pissed at Strelok for not acquiring a Visa earlier and signing up for a league without the ability to get one. Don't understand how people are turning this into an NASL bash-fest when it's 100% Strelok's fault. I don't mean that to be mean to Strelok, as I KNOW this frustrates him and he didn't mean for any of this to happen, but it's still not NASL's fault at all. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:20 lunchforthesky wrote: In the game he lost versus Darkforce in NASL. Can I get some quotes :D? I haven't got the season pass thingy | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:23 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Can I get some quotes :D? I haven't got the season pass thingy I can't remember exactly what he said. It was something along the lines of 'finally done with NASL' once he lost. He then complained about it some more on the TL forums. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:10 godemperor wrote: In most sports, if player is disrespectful towards an official or the organization, they face consequences (fines/bans). So i don't see any wrong doing in NASL part. Completely agree with this. But it's all settled in the rules anyways. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:25 lunchforthesky wrote: I can't remember exactly what he said. It was something along the lines of 'finally done with NASL' once he lost. He then complained about it some more on the TL forums. Fair enough, thanks  | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On July 03 2011 03:43 BackSideAttack wrote: Going by your solution, next in line as stated by Xeris is actually Ace, a Korean. that type of thinking is only because he's on an English forum...and it is expected... alive got in via being runner up anyways | ||
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Hansibot
Denmark72 Posts
I know people are saying that NASL are just following the rules, though I've been unable to find them myself. The only thing I could find about the format was from the NASL FAQ "At the end of the season the top two in each season will qualify to be flown to our live-finals."... which won't hold true now, since only 1 person from division 3 will be going... But anyway's the rules really doesn't carry much weight with me, seing as NASL broke their own rules at the start of the season by inviting Strelok. And having rules which can easily be interpreted to mean 2 very different things, really doesn't do much to promote the league as proffesional. Making a player from the open bracket the first pick for a Grand final spot, which under normal cuircomstance would be "reserved" to players of regular seasons seems wierd to me. I think it would be more reasonable to "disquallify" Strelok from the current season, and remove all his games played from the stats, and then invite whoever would be placed second Division 3. | ||
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:25 lunchforthesky wrote: I can't remember exactly what he said. It was something along the lines of 'finally done with NASL' once he lost. He then complained about it some more on the TL forums. Well if nani wants to be done with NASL, then NASL should help him be done with it  The rules already settled it so doesn't really make a difference at this point. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On July 03 2011 03:43 BackSideAttack wrote: Going by your solution, next in line as stated by Xeris is actually Ace, a Korean. Some people are just so smart, reasonable, and good at reading. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
 This sucks. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:39 Hansibot wrote: Having read the entire thread I still feel like the spot should go to Naniwa. I know people are saying that NASL are just following the rules, though I've been unable to find them myself. The only thing I could find about the format was from the NASL FAQ "At the end of the season the top two in each season will qualify to be flown to our live-finals."... which won't hold true now, since only 1 person from division 3 will be going... But anyway's the rules really doesn't carry much weight with me, seing as NASL broke their own rules at the start of the season by inviting Strelok. And having rules which can easily be interpreted to mean 2 very different things, really doesn't do much to promote the league as proffesional. Making a player from the open bracket the first pick for a Grand final spot, which under normal cuircomstance would be "reserved" to players of regular seasons seems wierd to me. I think it would be more reasonable to "disquallify" Strelok from the current season, and remove all his games played from the stats, and then invite whoever would be placed second Division 3. Playoff seeding>regular season seeding. ace would be the next to get the spot not naniwa. see how this can be completely subjective? anyone whose run an organization, event of any kind knows how important it is to have certain rules set in place or else chaos ensues. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On July 03 2011 04:57 ptell wrote: Points 1 and 2 would have sufficed, while Point 4 is irrelevant to Naniwa's question. Point 3 is absolutely unnecessary. If I were NASL's boss and I'm trying to make it as professional as possible, I would fire Xeris straightaway for making such statements. But then I recall NASL releasing that video detailing Painuser not showing up and I am reminded that NASL is not that kind of organization. Seriously Xeris, you are running NASL now, not some amateur online league. You should not have done that. For god's sake people could you please stop spiting bullshit like this . First it was clearly stated how the rules work whether you like it or not . Second Naniwa had to fight in groups of 10 players for 2 spots and then he could play in the playoffs for an other chance at a spot when he finished third in his group . He had his chances to qualifiy and failed . I don't know why he would even post about this without reading the rules or he just wanted to start some drama in which he successed . Coming second in 1000+ people open qualifiers with a lot of top foreigners in it and some of the top koreans in my opinion is a lot harder then what Naniwa had to do to qualify . If i was in Xeris's position i would not only not consider Naniwa for a replacement of Strelok i would ban him from participating in future seasons as well unless he publicly apologizes to NASL . The guy clearly has no respect for this tournament and why would he want to participate in this " shitty league " anyway . Even if Boxer himself was the one calling NASL a shitty league even thought he was invited to play for 50 000 $ he should still be banned . Of course Boxer would never say that even if the organizers have some troubles runing the league , because he respects e-sports and doesn't see it only as a way to make money - the meaning of a true professonal . I don't mind players trash talking each other , but when you insult the people who invited you to play in a tournament as big as the NASL i don't think he should expect to be invited to play again in this tournament and should be banned from it otherwise the tournament would indeed seem unprofessional even thought Naniwa fans might disagree . I think this thread needs streaker moderation with all the unjustified NASL bashing . | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
Sure there are questionable things about the NASL, but in this case the rules seem pretty clear and were known in advance, so i dont get the complaining. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:55 DarKFoRcE wrote: People also forget that i eliminated naniwa in the playoffs, i would personally find it to be kind of a joke to have to play him again after that... (admittedly, i'd rather play naniwa than alive, but still..) Sure there are questionable things about the NASL, but in this case the rules seem pretty clear and were known in advance, so i dont get the complaining. THINLY VEILED BRAG. Jay kaaaay. This was the only fair way to do it. If NaNiWa actually was allowed as a replacement for Strelok then I'm sure there would be a bigger shit storm than this. | ||
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gladheateher1337
164 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:20 YoiChiBow wrote: Send naniwa!!! i dont think he wants to get defeated 0-2 by darkforce again | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On July 03 2011 05:55 DarKFoRcE wrote: People also forget that i eliminated naniwa in the playoffs, i would personally find it to be kind of a joke to have to play him again after that... (admittedly, i'd rather play naniwa than alive, but still..) Sure there are questionable things about the NASL, but in this case the rules seem pretty clear and were known in advance, so i dont get the complaining. Yeah guys, how many times does Darkforce have to kick Naniwa's ass before you're satisfied? I'm just joking. I love Naniwa and wish him and Idra were in the playoffs. But rules are rules. | ||
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