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gosu86
Profile Joined June 2011
208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 19:30:01
July 02 2011 19:26 GMT
#241
On July 03 2011 04:21 zul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 04:08 gosu86 wrote:
most of the idiots in this thread need to learn how to fucking read

first of all it was stated in the rules no need to bash xe like seriously come on

and naniwa for crying why he wasn't picked well the rules were already set before he said anything
did anyone even read the op? lol or just nani's reply

edit: don't even know why nani is crying about it since he dislikes the nasl so much lol just saying

and you better rethink your attitude. I didnt see anyone insulting you and therefore you dont need to insult other netizens like you did in your first sentence.


Well put it this way how much people didn't even read and are creating crazy drama. If you read the thread how much people are bashing Xeris. I for one don't think he deserves all the hate and bashing he is getting in this thread. People are looking at nani' quote saying why wasn't I chosen since I was 3rd. Xeris already stated beforehand the rules and yet everyone is bashing him. And the people bashing him don't even know the rules was placed already on who was going to be picked if he droped out.

Unless you agree that Xeris deserves the negetive comments he's getting for a rule he already stated beforehand.

edit: Yes I understand that people think it's more logical to have the 3rd person in the bracket take the place if someone does drop out. Who knows maybe the rules will change in the future. Xeris has set the rule already even though people don't agree that's fine. The trolling/negetivity against xeris in this thread is just disgusting.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
July 02 2011 19:29 GMT
#242
On July 03 2011 03:20 CoR wrote:
what does this mean for the NEXT season ? with alive is now one more player in.
is strelok disq. ? i really hope not


aLive is already qualified for next season.
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
July 02 2011 19:30 GMT
#243
On July 03 2011 04:20 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 03:54 Skarmory wrote:
Rules are rules. Naniwa had two chances to make playoffs and lost both of them. The rules say that the open bracket player is the back up.

I love how the open bracket is called 'easier' yet all of the foreigners got ran over by Koreans at some point, sorry Thorzain D=. At least the people in the open bracket weren't allowed a series loss until the finals. Next time, "Don't? lolwut?" accept a bypass of the group tournament and just get top 2, I doubt he would have lasted through all the koreans regardless.

Heck, if I was going to invite a group play player, I would invite the one with the best record, seeing as he is obviously the best player as you all try to say for Naniwa. Ace, Morrow and Zenio went 7-2, Nani went 6-3, players are responsible for their walkover losses. Ace lost his 2nd chance too, but a loss is a loss. Nobody is bigger than the rules! GL next year, your group will be much harder with a few more koreans and a few less under performing foreigners.

GL in code A next season, if you lose set 1, you are out of the league. If you don't show up to your match you get a 2 season ban from the tournament like Rain.


Thank God you're not picking the invites then.
Personally I do think it's weird concidering how long of a tournament it is, and then they just shove it all away in favour of someone who strolled through the open bracket.


your point is very plausible but one could argue making it through open bracket was equally or even more demanding. (Which might change in season 2 as pool plays will get significantly more difficult)
nukeazerg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States168 Posts
July 02 2011 19:35 GMT
#244
Idra, Nada, Ace, Kiwikaki, and Naniwa should have a tournament to fill this spot as playoff winners. Each of these players would bring 10,000 more fans than alive.
I thought Nasl wanted to succeed as a business.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
July 02 2011 19:37 GMT
#245
On July 03 2011 04:35 nukeazerg wrote:
Idra, Nada, Ace, Kiwikaki, and Naniwa should have a tournament to fill this spot as playoff winners. Each of these players would bring 10,000 more fans than alive.
I thought Nasl wanted to succeed as a business.


A business that just changes its rules/guidelines at a drop of a hat wont be successful.
nukeazerg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States168 Posts
July 02 2011 19:39 GMT
#246
On July 03 2011 04:37 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 04:35 nukeazerg wrote:
Idra, Nada, Ace, Kiwikaki, and Naniwa should have a tournament to fill this spot as playoff winners. Each of these players would bring 10,000 more fans than alive.
I thought Nasl wanted to succeed as a business.


A business that just changes its rules/guidelines at a drop of a hat wont be successful.


I always took the guideline that he would only back-up the other open tournament guy. There is no specific wording.
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
July 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#247
poor strelok yo, he earned that spot. But I guess throwing another korean into the mix is cool.
ponyo.848
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 02 2011 19:46 GMT
#248
On July 03 2011 04:35 nukeazerg wrote:
Idra, Nada, Ace, Kiwikaki, and Naniwa should have a tournament to fill this spot as playoff winners. Each of these players would bring 10,000 more fans than alive.
I thought Nasl wanted to succeed as a business.

How the hell do you think nani, kiwi, or ace have more fans than alive?
MattTBK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada51 Posts
July 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#249
On July 03 2011 04:39 nukeazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 04:37 snafoo wrote:
On July 03 2011 04:35 nukeazerg wrote:
Idra, Nada, Ace, Kiwikaki, and Naniwa should have a tournament to fill this spot as playoff winners. Each of these players would bring 10,000 more fans than alive.
I thought Nasl wanted to succeed as a business.


A business that just changes its rules/guidelines at a drop of a hat wont be successful.


I always took the guideline that he would only back-up the other open tournament guy. There is no specific wording.


But it doesn't matter how you took the rule, it only matters what NASL meant the rule to be which as we see now obviously means that he is the back up for anybody.

I don't see how you can take that rule as only the open tournament anyways. The person receives a stipend to come, so that he's at location at the finals so that if any last second problems arise for a player as in they miss flights or something than he is on location to take their position in the tournament as a back up.
ptell
Profile Joined October 2009
United States103 Posts
July 02 2011 19:57 GMT
#250
On July 03 2011 01:40 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 01:15 Naniwa wrote:
why is he replacing strelok instead of the person who came third in the group? Me.


1) It's been in our rules from the start that the 2nd place of the Open Tournament would have the first backup spot if a player couldn't make it.

2) If aLive had declined the invite, we would have invited the 2nd place finishers in the playoff brackets according to seeding: which would have been: Ace, Naniwa, KiWiKaKi, NaDa, and IdrA.

3) Either way, I would be hesitant to invite you because you've publicly said "thank god I'm done with NASL" and called us a shitty league. Think your actions have no consequences?

4) White-Ra I think as a B1 VISA, he's proven several times he can get to the USA. BRATOK has B1 VISA too (he showed us a scan of it), which is why we accepted him into the league. Strelok was our risk player, and we were assured he could make it here... it just sucks ~_~



Points 1 and 2 would have sufficed, while Point 4 is irrelevant to Naniwa's question.

Point 3 is absolutely unnecessary. If I were NASL's boss and I'm trying to make it as professional as possible, I would fire Xeris straightaway for making such statements. But then I recall NASL releasing that video detailing Painuser not showing up and I am reminded that NASL is not that kind of organization.

Seriously Xeris, you are running NASL now, not some amateur online league. You should not have done that.
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
July 02 2011 19:59 GMT
#251
Awesome! im stoked korean domination at NASL XD

wish i could be there live.

I really hope boxer can take down MC, that would be amazing.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 20:03:08
July 02 2011 20:00 GMT
#252
ALIVE how is that even remotely fair??? Who lost to Strelok for the slot and why can't they come in his place????

This might be the last straw, I doubt I will buy another subscription for Season 2 and will just hope Season 3 never happens.
"En taro adun, Executor."
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
July 02 2011 20:01 GMT
#253
Special Thanks to Strelok. Good Luck in Season 2. We are sad that you cannot make it.

Strelok's Journey to the Finals
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 20:05:06
July 02 2011 20:03 GMT
#254
nvmd -_-
MattTBK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada51 Posts
July 02 2011 20:06 GMT
#255
On July 03 2011 05:00 Chriscras wrote:
ALIVE how is that even remotely fair??? Who lost to Strelok for the slot and why can't they come in his place????

This might be the last straw, I doubt I will buy another subscription for Season 2 and will just hope Season 3 never happens.


You should probably read the thread.... It's been posted about 30 times that the rules said the open bracket runner up is the back up player at the finals.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 20:16:28
July 02 2011 20:13 GMT
#256
how do you justify the loser of 1 tournament is more deserving of an open spot then the next highest ranked person in the league? NASL shocks me once again. I don't understand how a league with so much money behind it can be so damn amateur. The guy fronting the money must be mega wealthy and just not give a shit how/who is running the show, he just wants to watch starcraft.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 02 2011 20:17 GMT
#257
Where did NaNiwa publically say that NASL was a shitty league? :/

Not saying it didn't happen just curious

"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 20:24:05
July 02 2011 20:19 GMT
#258
The only people who have a right to be pissed about this are the people who have to play alive who is undoubtedly (tho i'll prob get shit for this) a more dangerous player than Strelock or Naniwa.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 02 2011 20:19 GMT
#259
On July 03 2011 04:35 nukeazerg wrote:
Idra, Nada, Ace, Kiwikaki, and Naniwa should have a tournament to fill this spot as playoff winners. Each of these players would bring 10,000 more fans than alive.
I thought Nasl wanted to succeed as a business.


If China don't qualify for the World Cup, Fifa should just invite them anyway. Don't they know how many people live in China?
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 02 2011 20:20 GMT
#260
On July 03 2011 05:17 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Where did NaNiwa publically say that NASL was a shitty league? :/

Not saying it didn't happen just curious



In the game he lost versus Darkforce in NASL.
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