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[NASL] aLive Replaces Strelok at Grand Finals - Page 16

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lovedoctor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany115 Posts
July 02 2011 23:44 GMT
#301
It's really funny how NASL responds to Naniwa like two little girls fighting -.-

Seriously that shows what is wrong with NASL. It felt unprofessional from the beginning and they never changed that.
"Infestors own marines in a way you don't understand" - artosis
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 00:00:03
July 02 2011 23:45 GMT
#302
On July 03 2011 03:09 Daniri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 03:07 CTStalker wrote:
On July 03 2011 02:03 Takezou wrote:
On July 03 2011 01:40 Xeris wrote:
On July 03 2011 01:15 Naniwa wrote:
why is he replacing strelok instead of the person who came third in the group? Me.


1) It's been in our rules from the start that the 2nd place of the Open Tournament would have the first backup spot if a player couldn't make it.

2) If aLive had declined the invite, we would have invited the 2nd place finishers in the playoff brackets according to seeding: which would have been: Ace, Naniwa, KiWiKaKi, NaDa, and IdrA.

3) Either way, I would be hesitant to invite you because you've publicly said "thank god I'm done with NASL" and called us a shitty league. Think your actions have no consequences?

4) White-Ra I think as a B1 VISA, he's proven several times he can get to the USA. BRATOK has B1 VISA too (he showed us a scan of it), which is why we accepted him into the league. Strelok was our risk player, and we were assured he could make it here... it just sucks ~_~




While part 1 and 2 make sense. 3 is very unnecessary and unprofessional. You are representing a supposedly professional organization. You could have easily addressed the issue without those comments.

agreed. think of how many times idra has slandered or bad mouthed various people and admins on TL -- while he may get banned from the forums, just being a douche isn't going to stop TL from letting him play in tournaments, because he's one of the best in the world, as is naniwa


Well that's not what happened so why cloud the issue by complaining about it?

because xeris is the one who brought it up in the first place.

i agree with you, anyway. i'm still excited to watch the grand finals

On July 03 2011 03:21 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 03:07 CTStalker wrote:
On July 03 2011 02:03 Takezou wrote:
On July 03 2011 01:40 Xeris wrote:
On July 03 2011 01:15 Naniwa wrote:
why is he replacing strelok instead of the person who came third in the group? Me.


1) It's been in our rules from the start that the 2nd place of the Open Tournament would have the first backup spot if a player couldn't make it.

2) If aLive had declined the invite, we would have invited the 2nd place finishers in the playoff brackets according to seeding: which would have been: Ace, Naniwa, KiWiKaKi, NaDa, and IdrA.

3) Either way, I would be hesitant to invite you because you've publicly said "thank god I'm done with NASL" and called us a shitty league. Think your actions have no consequences?

4) White-Ra I think as a B1 VISA, he's proven several times he can get to the USA. BRATOK has B1 VISA too (he showed us a scan of it), which is why we accepted him into the league. Strelok was our risk player, and we were assured he could make it here... it just sucks ~_~




While part 1 and 2 make sense. 3 is very unnecessary and unprofessional. You are representing a supposedly professional organization. You could have easily addressed the issue without those comments.

agreed. think of how many times idra has slandered or bad mouthed various people and admins on TL -- while he may get banned from the forums, just being a douche isn't going to stop TL from letting him play in tournaments, because he's one of the best in the world, as is naniwa

I don't agree with this. First, which part from the RULES of NASL you don't understand.
Second, Idra, being BM thats true, but most of the time hes just BM toward a person. I don't think Idra ever insult or called TL any thing very bad.

TL also is a forum where people can express their opinions. There is no TL as an business organization unlike NASL, they are an business organization just like many league organizer out there, so they can ban, fine people that talk shit about them.

there's nothing more to be said here other than you're completely wrong. idra has personally insulted TL admins many times. and although TL is a community unlike any other, there is a business component there.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 02 2011 23:53 GMT
#303
Alive and Puma are going to dominate this!
Krimancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 23:58:32
July 02 2011 23:57 GMT
#304
As I see it it was a bad rule but they have no choice but to follow it now. Then again, why would they follow the rule now since they didn't care much for rules when Strelok applied without a VISA.
Personally I would much rather see a legue player fill in for a league player, ACE would be awesome.

OT.
Not sure why NASL is so openly flaming naniwa, season 1 had its flaws. I pay to watch and it's the player pool that makes me pay. Can't see what getting on worse terms with a great player will achieve.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
July 03 2011 00:07 GMT
#305
On July 03 2011 08:57 Krimancer wrote:
As I see it it was a bad rule but they have no choice but to follow it now. Then again, why would they follow the rule now since they didn't care much for rules when Strelok applied without a VISA.
Personally I would much rather see a legue player fill in for a league player, ACE would be awesome.

OT.
Not sure why NASL is so openly flaming naniwa, season 1 had its flaws. I pay to watch and it's the player pool that makes me pay. Can't see what getting on worse terms with a great player will achieve.

Openly flaming him? It's the other way around bud. How is stating how Naniwa denounced and slandered the league, and saying we would be hesitant to invite him because of that, "flaming him". Like wtf?!?
MKP||TSL
Snipershot
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom59 Posts
July 03 2011 01:33 GMT
#306
i know rules are rules but there shit rules if someone from open bracket plays in a week long tournament gets priority over someone who committed to the whole season, i thought he was backup if the 16th seed couldn't make it.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
July 03 2011 10:16 GMT
#307
The third argument of Xeris is just childish. The season had a bunch of problems and it should be perfectly ok to talk about them.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 03 2011 10:18 GMT
#308
He should have asked white ra to go to disneyworld and hid in the suitcase.

Sorry Strelok And I love your name too :\
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
July 03 2011 10:43 GMT
#309
lol what a shitty rule that the runner up of the open qualifier replaces a missing player first. wouldve been to easy to make rules that make sense i guess.
"Nice, *claps* gogo kill kill, yeah bane speed, nice EU Power" Dimaga
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 10:47:58
July 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#310
lmao why would koreans even bother waking up at 3am to play in lag when they can just win a tournament instead, get directly seeded in, and then if someone is unable to make it the person who didn't even win can replace them instead of one of the people who played out the entire season? How silly.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 03 2011 10:49 GMT
#311
In a strange way it makes me smile knowing that the NASL tried to use Blizzard's influence as a large corporation for eSports.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
July 03 2011 10:49 GMT
#312
heh. i'm sure darkforce is happy about this
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Woshie
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 10:58:33
July 03 2011 10:57 GMT
#313
I can't say I agree with the decision of who replaced Strelok. Does this mean that the winner of the open tournament is seeded number 1? Because effectivly a runner up player from outside the main tournament has been seeded higher than the runner up players who had to duke it out all season.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 11:17:39
July 03 2011 11:06 GMT
#314
On July 03 2011 01:15 Naniwa wrote:
why is he replacing strelok instead of the person who came third in the group? Me.


this +1, or whoever in the league as the righteous replacement. i cant believe that NASL gave a free pass for an outsider directly into the grand finals matches. i am sure NASL can give us a nice (made up) reason but i feel sorry for the players who have spent so many hours participated in NASL so far. would love to hear the 'real' reason tho
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
July 03 2011 11:07 GMT
#315
It just sucks for DarkForce because he has to prepare for a different player. He has know for a couple weeks that he was facing Stelok, but not anymore. GL to everyone!
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 11:11:43
July 03 2011 11:11 GMT
#316
NASL has problems, and thats shitty to say it's a bad tournament as a huge role model of esports (altho i haven't seen this, so just trusting), but you're only reinforcing that idea by saying you wouldn't want to invite him cause you have a problem with him personally.

Nani is an amazing player and it would be much more publicity to have him show up than alive. since this was your rules from the start though, it makes perfect sense... but you should have said that, and stopped there, also, if you're just jabbing back at him, then who gives a shit, this is teamliquid, where you post as yourself instead of a PR guy, i just hope it's not affecting your business decisions and you aren't throwing Naniwa out of consideration for season 2 cause a little comment.

And if you do, i swear to god i will BURN NASL TO THE GROUND!!! lol nah, jp but seriously, it'll keep a lot of people interested
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
July 03 2011 11:11 GMT
#317
On July 03 2011 19:16 superjoppe wrote:
The third argument of Xeris is just childish. The season had a bunch of problems and it should be perfectly ok to talk about them.

talk about them != shitting on nasl

either way it doesn't matter, because naniwa hasen't been the first choice because of the rules anyway
JonB
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden325 Posts
July 03 2011 11:12 GMT
#318
sad bout the strelok thing, but gogo alive!
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Swarls
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia193 Posts
July 03 2011 11:13 GMT
#319
Sad for strelock.
I dont think placing the runner up of the open bracket into the top 16 is the right call espicially when the are 35 others who played for 10 weeks and did not get offered tho position.
"Your a zorg!" - Nerf Herder
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 03 2011 11:18 GMT
#320
On July 03 2011 20:11 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 19:16 superjoppe wrote:
The third argument of Xeris is just childish. The season had a bunch of problems and it should be perfectly ok to talk about them.

talk about them != shitting on nasl

either way it doesn't matter, because naniwa hasen't been the first choice because of the rules anyway



so because ace doesnt post on teamliquid its ok to have stupid rules?

i just dont see the logical reasoning in having the backup to your pool play players come from the open bracket. the person to replace strelok should surely be the person 3rd in his group, the person directly hurt by a player being in the league who in the end couldnt actually qualify for the finals?

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