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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On June 25 2011 04:52 ICanFlyLow wrote: You know what would be the best way to complain? Stop playing their games. Boycott Blizzard? Some people make a living off of SC and SC2. Also, Blizz's games are too fun to stop playing  | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On June 25 2011 04:52 ICanFlyLow wrote: You know what would be the best way to complain? Stop playing their games. It's actually the right thing to do, if you don't agree with the ToS, don't play it simple. That's the way things are, you are not FORCED to accept the rules, you can refuse and then do not utilize the service. Simple. Works like this for EVERYTHING in real life. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On June 25 2011 04:36 1st_Panzer_Div. wrote: Was HuK streaming when doing this? Their reaction would make perfect sense if that was the case. Huk played in the HSC with TLO's account, which looked quite stupid. I turn the stream on and it says "LiquidTLO" but Huk is playing :p If he had just switched to his account for the streamed games nobody would've cared. | ||
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Vinski
505 Posts
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Kezzer
United States1268 Posts
or they are just selling more copies seriously Blizz, you're gonna ban a top player for something so stupid? | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
On June 25 2011 04:44 Hekisui wrote: Pretty sure it's illegal for Blizzard to ban accounts for random things just because they put it in the ToS. ToS has no legal relevance. Blizzard is just threatening Huk with theft here. If you bought SC2, shame on you. Lol blizzard can ban whoever they want. Literally they need zero reason to ban someone it's their choice because your just borrowing their property. And the ToS is legally binding as soon as you hit agree so it does have legal relevance. There is no legal issues in this at all so please don't spurt random stuff if you don't know. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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Hekisui
195 Posts
And then when an account goes bad, you pay more. That's what Blizzard wants. Why is anyone surprised. If someone offers you 100 euro and 200 euro, what do you take? If you were a turkey, would you vote for or against the holiday of Christmas? You vote with your pocket. If you don't boycott SC2, you support all these policies. It's not like you can't go to iccup, download SC BW for free and play. And if you are good enough you can make more money than in SC2. Huk and TLO can go play SC BW if they don't like to pay. If they don't , they shouldn't complain that they are Blizzard's slaves. On June 25 2011 04:56 Sworn wrote: Lol blizzard can ban whoever they want. Literally they need zero reason to ban someone it's their choice because your just borrowing their property. And the ToS is legally binding as soon as you hit agree so it does have legal relevance. There is no legal issues in this at all so please don't spurt random stuff if you don't know. Blizzard can but other developers can't? Why? Other devs can't unilaterally close down accounts even if their ToS seems to allow them. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On June 25 2011 00:43 Klamity wrote: Well, at least they're following E-Sports? This is pretty ridiculous. what i thought. are they kidding me? are they freaking kidding me!? goddamn they should worry more about the hackers and achievement farmers | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
 I can see where they're coming from, but it begs the question: Is it really that big of a deal? -_- | ||
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chasfrank
Gambia59 Posts
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On June 25 2011 05:00 chasfrank wrote: No, because custom games have no influence on the ladder.All Korean SC2 teams share the same account during GSTL. That should be illegal too, then, no? Seriously, why do you think it is okay for HuK to play ladder on TLO's account, thus boosting TLO's rating and keeping his account in GM while he can't even play due to his injury? Not to mention HuK even streamed that. Obviously Blizzard doesn't care if you account share some custom games in a tournament, they just don't want people boosting others on the ladder. | ||
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Flazer
Canada7 Posts
BTW Huk was streaming before HS on TLO's acc and got it to rank 1 EU. Circumstances suck but abiding to the rules must be held. It's like listening to a trivia nerd stating random duck facts to you at a party with a megaphone. Kinda annoying but you never know when you might need to use those duck facts just in case if you get attacked by whitera in the wilderness :-p | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On June 25 2011 04:57 AIRwar wrote: Blizzard are a bunch of commies that are hellbent on taking over the world and if anyone steps out of line they slit your throat. I seriously think that HuK and TLO have probably done more for the SC community than all of blizzard put together. They can go stfu and make the "better games" that they're always rambling on about. Putting the episode in question aside, your philosophy makes no sense. Being a good person does not make you special, you have to pay if you do something wrong. | ||
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chickenhawk
Portugal339 Posts
No, we're discussing that U.S. law analysis is applicable to the discussion as opposed to irrelevant. It is irrelevant since in my country the law US law has zero value. Lol blizzard can ban whoever they want. Literally they need zero reason to ban someone it's their choice because your just borrowing their property. And the ToS is legally binding as soon as you hit agree so it does have legal relevance. There is no legal issues in this at all so please don't spurt random stuff if you don't know. Wrong, at very least they are renting a license.. and therefor you have rights. The ToS is actually relevant because you can retrieve it before you purchase the game as present on their website. The argument would probably crumple based off that given that Blizzard probably put it there for that reason specifically. You are failing to see the problem. Any contract must be sign at the moment when you buy something, never ever after you bought it. Saying that there is a contract to be sign is irrelevant, saying that the contract can be found at X place is irrelevant. If the contract is not present at the moment you buy the product, the contact is illegal. | ||
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chasfrank
Gambia59 Posts
On June 25 2011 05:01 Thorakh wrote: No, because custom games have no influence on the ladder. Seriously, why do you think it is okay for HuK to play ladder on TLO's account, thus boosting TLO's rating and keeping his account in GM while he can't even play due to his injury? Not to mention HuK even streamed that. Obviously Blizzard doesn't care if you account share some custom games in a tournament, they just don't want people boosting others on the ladder. I challenge you to quote the part of the ToS that says "you are only disallowed from sharing accounts when laddering" | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On June 25 2011 04:59 TALegion wrote: I'm surprised that they had the time to physically call them up. The average person would just get an email I can see where they're coming from, but it begs the question: Is it really that big of a deal? -_- In my opinion it's not, but they are in their right to do SOMETHING to avoid some unpleasant situation. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On June 25 2011 05:04 Flazer wrote: Blizzard are showing that they care, whats so bad about that. Some game admins show no care at all, be grateful people! BTW Huk was streaming before HS on TLO's acc and got it to rank 1 EU. Circumstances suck but abiding to the rules must be held. It's like listening to a trivia nerd stating random duck facts to you at a party with a megaphone. Kinda annoying but you never know when you might need to use those duck facts just in case if you get attacked by whitera in the wilderness :-p wtf? god some people are ignorant. this is not about admins caring or not caring, this is about the fact that Blizzard's Bnet2.0 system is effed up. So if you want to talk about caring...then they are caring about the wrong and pathetic things! | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On June 25 2011 05:05 chasfrank wrote: Why would Blizzard not turn a blind eye to account sharing that does not involve laddering?I challenge you to quote the part of the ToS that says "you are only disallowed from sharing accounts when laddering" | ||
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