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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
June 24 2011 20:30 GMT
#481
On June 25 2011 05:24 chickenhawk wrote:
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What they actually did is pretty mild compared to what they were in power to do, and it's actually it's awesome that their PR guy was watching a sc2 event.

Relate yourself to real world, if the government has a law which states the following "if a citizen breaks his car's stop lamps he's bound by law to repair them asap" , and then lets everyone travel with cars with broken stop lamps, even under their officers eyes, what would you think of said government?

1) it's a shitty and incompetent government, not even able to enforce it's own laws.
2) if you break your own car's stop lamps why on earth should you observe the law and repair them if noone is doing that?


1- Blizzard is not an authority
2- Blizzard can not make laws

3- Blizzard over can make rules with in the laws of countries
4- Blizzard must present said rules at the time of purchase
5- Blizzard fails to do that


You are consider "blizzard" as authority in the moment you sign the ToS.
You consider "government" as autority the moment you are born.
The law is always active
The ToS is limited by it's terms.

The only difference is that the ToS is optional and specific. By not signing it blizzard has no authority towards you, whatsoever.

And... http://eu.blizzard.com/support/index.xml?locale=en_GB&gameId=13&rootCategoryId=8640


Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 20:31:11
June 24 2011 20:30 GMT
#482
Wow that's pretty ridiculous. Is account sharing really that big of a problem? And if it is, is it actually something that they can enforce unilaterally. Yeah, maybe they can find out about TLO and Huk, but I'm not so sure that all the other anonymous random people that share accounts they're ever going to find out about.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 20:31:27
June 24 2011 20:30 GMT
#483
Blizzard is pure bullshit. Pros are the guys who really are promoting the game, and they come with his fking money hunger.
Chicken gank op
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
June 24 2011 20:31 GMT
#484
Sounds stupid but its clearly written in the Terms of Use. And of course, nobody ever reads the Terms of Use and accepts them anyways. Its just a matter if a company decides to enforce it or not.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
June 24 2011 20:32 GMT
#485
so will blizzard punish FXO for all sharing an account in korea? will blizzard punish the oGs team for having a shared account on NA? those dam...
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 24 2011 20:32 GMT
#486
what is this O_O a direct call to 'warn' progamers about EULA?? somehow i hope blizzard focus more on making the game better than doing some nonsense like this.

or, maybe, they just wanna find an excuse to 'chat up' HuK etc progamers lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 20:34:11
June 24 2011 20:33 GMT
#487
On June 25 2011 05:24 chickenhawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
What they actually did is pretty mild compared to what they were in power to do, and it's actually it's awesome that their PR guy was watching a sc2 event.

Relate yourself to real world, if the government has a law which states the following "if a citizen breaks his car's stop lamps he's bound by law to repair them asap" , and then lets everyone travel with cars with broken stop lamps, even under their officers eyes, what would you think of said government?

1) it's a shitty and incompetent government, not even able to enforce it's own laws.
2) if you break your own car's stop lamps why on earth should you observe the law and repair them if noone is doing that?


1- Blizzard is not an authority
2- Blizzard can not make laws

3- Blizzard over can make rules with in the laws of countries
4- Blizzard must present said rules at the time of purchase
5- Blizzard fails to do that


1.Authority to what? Their own games and services, yes.
2.Who says they are making up laws, just only you. They're making terms and conditions for you to play their own games and services.
3.Same as above, they're not making up laws... just only terms and conditions in a contract/license.
4.From all Blizzard games I have purchased, they state that the product is subject to the EULA inside the product and/or website on the cover. People just overlook it. Besides, Blizzard does try to offer a full refund within 30 days of purchase should you disagree with the EULA.
5.Elaborate.
I love you sarge.... AHHHH
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5618 Posts
June 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#488
"BREAKING NEWS:

Blizzard forces one of the conjoined twins to close eyes when the legal owner of a copy of StarCraft 2 is playing it."
Trumpstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden114 Posts
June 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#489
I think it's because blizzard invite people to blizzcon based on there ladder record and TLO account is now ranked 1 on the ladder after Huk playing on it.
eoLithic
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway221 Posts
June 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#490
well, they went against the ToS, nothing more to add.

"You`re a pro or you`re a noob...that`s life"
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#491
On June 25 2011 05:32 koolaid1990 wrote:
so will blizzard punish FXO for all sharing an account in korea? will blizzard punish the oGs team for having a shared account on NA? those dam...


and this. LOL looks like blizzard has some phone calls to make whenever GSTL is on!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 24 2011 20:36 GMT
#492
Really dislike Blizzard for this. I don't see how they have the authority to choose who can access the software. So, when I let my younger brother play on my account, I'm breaking the ToS? They can shove it.
MichaelJLowell
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States610 Posts
June 24 2011 20:37 GMT
#493
On June 25 2011 05:06 PlosionCornu wrote:
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On June 25 2011 04:59 TALegion wrote:
I'm surprised that they had the time to physically call them up. The average person would just get an email
I can see where they're coming from, but it begs the question: Is it really that big of a deal? -_-


In my opinion it's not, but they are in their right to do SOMETHING to avoid some unpleasant situation.

Somebody from a entertainment business contacted a consumer about his possession and use of the company's retail entertainment product. What is going on in this world where people actually defend this?
http://www.learntocounter.com - I'm a "known troll" so please disconnect your kid's computer when I am on the forums.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 24 2011 20:37 GMT
#494
to play in KR, you have to be korean (to have KSSN), so all the non-koreans playing in KR aren't allowed?

this is just an example, since they're enforcing that(OP), this also should be enforced. be consistent.
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Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
June 24 2011 20:37 GMT
#495
Im pretty sure that in the early GSTL players used a team account like: oGs/IM. Thats a few players playing on one account, whats up Blizzard?
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
June 24 2011 20:37 GMT
#496
The reason people are pissed is because none of these things were an issue in bw. We wait 12 years to get a brand new starcraft game and its missing a lot of the features we had from a game made in the 90s!

HotS Terms of Service: All your life are belong to blizzard.

"But it's in the ToS you agreed to it!" durr

The fact that something is a rule or law doesn't make it exempt from criticism and ridicule.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
June 24 2011 20:38 GMT
#497
Why not use a banner for the scores that covers up the players names so put Huk instead of TLO.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
June 24 2011 20:38 GMT
#498
one game should have access to all servers. this is the probleme here
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 24 2011 20:38 GMT
#499
On June 25 2011 05:08 Thorakh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 05:05 chasfrank wrote:
On June 25 2011 05:01 Thorakh wrote:
On June 25 2011 05:00 chasfrank wrote:
All Korean SC2 teams share the same account during GSTL. That should be illegal too, then, no?
No, because custom games have no influence on the ladder.

Seriously, why do you think it is okay for HuK to play ladder on TLO's account, thus boosting TLO's rating and keeping his account in GM while he can't even play due to his injury?

Not to mention HuK even streamed that. Obviously Blizzard doesn't care if you account share some custom games in a tournament, they just don't want people boosting others on the ladder.


I challenge you to quote the part of the ToS that says "you are only disallowed from sharing accounts when laddering"
Why would Blizzard not turn a blind eye to account sharing that does not involve laddering?


That was the point he was trying to make. A lot of people have said that blizzard wouldnt have cared if they were only playing customs. Which im sure isnt allowed by the TOS either. The whole situation is a mess. He needed to practice. HIs mmr is to high for bnet to match him(a problem i wouldnt mind having) so he borrows a friends. They could`ve offered him a free one(or a guest pass) and asked him not to play on TLO`s rather than threatening the two of them. Wouldve been better from a PR standpoint at least
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
June 24 2011 20:41 GMT
#500
On June 25 2011 05:37 L3gendary wrote:
The reason people are pissed is because none of these things were an issue in bw. We wait 12 years to get a brand new starcraft game and its missing a lot of the features we had from a game made in the 90s!

HotS Terms of Service: All your life are belong to blizzard.

"But it's in the ToS you agreed to it!" durr

The fact that something is a rule or law doesn't make it exempt from criticism and ridicule.


True, if you boycott it they will be forced to change the terms.
But people accept it, and then complain, W T F.
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