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Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 18:16:05
June 24 2011 17:20 GMT
#201
On June 25 2011 01:28 ALang wrote:
Thing is with TSL they were getting salaries and their housing/food paid for... and income tax in Korea is nothing. On top of that, they got income from each GSL by staying in Code S. There isn't nearly enough money outside Korea (that they can actually win) to make up to difference, unless a foreign team wants to pay a huge salary.

They are no longer top players... Tester made his name in the beta and has done nothing and FruitDealer has done nothing since the first GSL. Younger teams could use them as coaches but other than that their places in SC2 seem rather vague at the moment.


That's what I thought. When it was formed it was lined with sponsors. Did TSL want to stray away from the casual approach FD and Tester wanted? Their attitude comes off as lazy; I like that they want more free time and not be slaves like in BW, but I don't know it just does.

I don't care about Tester anymore and never did for FD. Oh he got a lucky run to the finals and got an opponent he was 90% sure he'd stomp. Undeserved hype.

TSL is a bust anyway. It was thought it'd be a powerhouse team, but they never deliver and somehow still cling onto their spots in the GSL.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:23:29
June 24 2011 17:23 GMT
#202
I'm now interested in seeing where fruitdealer goes from here... I'm happy in a backhanded sort of way though, because I have fruitdealer on my anti-team for the Fantasy GSTL!
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
June 24 2011 17:24 GMT
#203
It's pretty simple, TSL has not been doing great lately so they probably wanted the players to practice harder which Trickster and Fruitdealer didn't want to do so they left, like what happened with OGS.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 24 2011 17:30 GMT
#204
Korea is splintering. Something KeSPA would have never allowed, for the better or for the worse. We'll see how this plays out.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
June 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#205
Hopefully that start practicing again >_> I think we all know that if they did that these 2 would start dominating again. Maybe they'll rejoin oGs.
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
June 24 2011 17:33 GMT
#206
Both could be among the best but they keep playing so sloppy
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
Sponge12349
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom49 Posts
June 24 2011 17:37 GMT
#207
TSL no longer have many good players. Hopefully some foreign teams like sj or fxo!
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
June 24 2011 17:39 GMT
#208
I don't see where it says they want to join a foreign team. What's with all the speculation?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Volume
Profile Joined October 2010
United States104 Posts
June 24 2011 17:39 GMT
#209
TLAF.Liquid`Fruitdealer

Seems a bit long. LOL.
Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
June 24 2011 17:40 GMT
#210
I really am curious what is going on in their team house or whatever. I mean first Rain goes, then shortly after comes Trickster and Fruitdealer? This is quite strange

Good luck to them, though
Team Liquid"I was wondering why people who that would never dream of laughing at a blind or a crippled man would laugh at a moron."
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
June 24 2011 17:44 GMT
#211
All I know is... NEW GSKILL COMMERCIAL

Would like to see a foreign team sign one of them and see how that plays out.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 24 2011 17:48 GMT
#212
I dont get those " I want to play in foreign tourney" bs. Will tourney orga actually invite them over the like of much hotter and skilled players like MC,Bomber,MMA ? Or can they beat those ? Are foreign tournies that attractive ? The most frequent one is MLG and it's 5K for Top1 place, kinda meh while u can get the same by winning 2 games in Code S, plus you are in a nice team with quality practice and high salary.
On topic, imo that wont hurt TSL much, SangHo/Clide/Puma/aLive/JYP all look stable and code-S candidate. They just lack a truly strong ace - the reason why TSL did so poorly in teamleague despite looking much better than most team on paper
kNightLite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:55:33
June 24 2011 17:49 GMT
#213
I don't understand. Tester and FD are the only two TSL players *not* playing the NASL open.

I wonder if coach Lee forbid Rain/Tester/FD from participating in NASL because he wanted them to focus on GSL instead. And also that way they wouldn't team kill in the NASL open.

That might explain why Rain left a little earlier and is participating in NASL, while Tester and FD are not.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 17:54:51
June 24 2011 17:53 GMT
#214
-____-

Well it's not like they have done anything since September.

Also, @kNightLite, Tester and FD are notoriously lazy and unmotivated. They probably didn't participate in the NASL because they didn't want to.

And anyway, it's not like they were TSL's best players by a long shot anymore. aLive is their only great player, Clide, Killer, and Revival are pretty decent, and Puma is on the rise.
MKP||TSL
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
June 24 2011 17:59 GMT
#215
TSL wont really get hurt much by this. Fruitdealer hasn't done anything since GSL1 and Trickster always been overhyped. They are really on the same level with Clide and Killer while alive might be a little better. TSL still a decent team overall but no standout players like sc in fou, DRG in MVP...
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
June 24 2011 18:01 GMT
#216
Wasn't the team at one point more concerned over their hair color than the actual game?
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
Incursus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
June 24 2011 18:02 GMT
#217
On June 24 2011 21:38 kellymilkies wrote:
FXOFruitdealer



How did this go unnoticed?

Kelly, do you know something that we do not about this issue?
Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice...appears under your feet.
NotShade
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada26 Posts
June 24 2011 18:03 GMT
#218
On June 24 2011 19:58 Shalaiyn wrote:
It is... hopefully they go to somewhere they could go to foreigner events. Maybe Artosis picks up Trickster for Sixjax?

That'd be sick LOLL
Geegeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada226 Posts
June 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#219
LOL it looks like quite a few people had Trickster & FD on their GSTL anti-team (including myself). Perhaps it was a sign.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 18:10:41
June 24 2011 18:09 GMT
#220
They left oGs because they wanted to play more casually, and it seems TSL's management wants to be more disciplined and structured, which didn't fit very well with FD and Tester's rather low work ethic that they admitted themselves.
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